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#101862 - 11/06/10 08:07 PM Ehrlichiosis on my 7mo Puppy
Helios Offline
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Hello from venezuela! I'm new to this forum and just joined thanks to lisa cool

Im a proud owner of a 7MO GSD!




Back to the topic,I just found out that my puppy has Erhlichia.. frown ATM he's not with me, he's about to finish a 6 week BO training (but that's another story... paranoid2)

My trainer's personal vet had a bloodtest done on my puppy this wednesday and yesterday we were told the results & he came up positive for Ehrlichiosis just one +. Everything else seemed just fine. According to the trainer he hasn't shown any symptons thus far...

But I know that when he started the BO he lost appetite for a few days and also weigh but we didn't think of anything else but only that it was because he was staying in the trainer's house, & he's been running like a maniac there..

He had eczemas, we treated him and everything seemed okay and now this.. Im reading that sensitive skin and rash are one of the symptons..

My trainer did the bloodtest because he's about to finish his BO training and because he has a Bleeding Gum. I've been reading Lisa's Articles and one of them says that spontaneous bleeding is one of the Symptons.I don't really know if that'd be considered as spontaneous bleeding though. I've noticed it when I go there to play/work with him. And I've to add that according to the trainer it's not always bleeding one day it'll bleed & another won't though, I'm not 100% sure because he's not with me & who knows what's he's doing there.. whistling

We were told that we shouldn't worry that it's "very" common in such breeds and rottys.... smirk Although It's only one + she wanted to treat him for "20 days" smirk . She tells me that one of her dogs came up positive for it, also with one + and that the dog is okay.

We'll check him with our vet when he's done with his BO training(this wednesday). Im worry because I don't know how bad it is. He's being treated with doxiciclina, 100 mg per day.. He weighed 29KGS(64LB) when he was 6MO, he's 7MO now & no idea how much he weighs now..

I've been reading that the Dosage should be 3-5MG/LB and He's just getting 100MG. I also read on one of the articles that lisa has in her signature that it should be 5 to 10mg per day per Kg for 6 weeks and He's just being treated for 20 days..

The trainer's personal vet did a Full blood exam I don't have yet the results with me I just know that the results were fine. The trainer will give me the FBE this wednesday. But besides the fact that he has Ehrlichia he's just acting/being a crazy puppy..

- Just FYI He uses frontline and the Preventix Collar


I just can't wait to pick him up this wednesday... hammer
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#101883 - 11/06/10 09:28 PM Re: Ehrlichiosis on my 7mo Puppy [Re: Helios]
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I wish you a good result with the training, and a good relationship with your vet. I hope your vet will change his doxycycline to 6 weeks. You have a beautiful, handsome puppy! smile Welcome to the boards! May Wednesday come soon, and may your dog and you enjoy a happy reunion! Wishing for good treatment for your dog's ehrlichia.
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#101903 - 11/06/10 11:07 PM Re: Ehrlichiosis on my 7mo Puppy [Re: Braverhund]
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Thanks Braverhund!.
I have to say that yes, there are good results with the training thus far smile Even when I first didn´t like the idea of the send-away training (I get to spend 1 day a week with him) smirk .... He gets to play with dogs of his size, the dogs have their own pool, lots of fun, etc etc it´s a nice place smile

The trainer is amazed by his BO, the BO with the trainer started when he was 6 MO and before I left him there I did train him by myself since he was 2MO until he started the BO with the trainer. He´s a pretty smart puppy smile But yea my family sometimes forget that hes just being a PUPPY (I´ve to add that my family were the one that liked the idea of the send-away training smirk )

And Im so going to talk with the vet about changing the doxy to 6 weeks...

I just cant wait for this wednesday headbang


Edited by Helios (11/06/10 11:16 PM)
Edit Reason: Typos..
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#101909 - 11/06/10 11:26 PM Re: Ehrlichiosis on my 7mo Puppy [Re: Helios]
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welcome

Yes, I would treat with a higher dose for longer. Even when I treated my 33-lb'er, I gave her 100 mg twice per day.

I don't know what's available there, but a bit of Milk Thistle will help the liver during treatment. My favorite though is Liver Support Factors by Biochem/Country Life.

If you do a search on this forum, you will find Patti's thread when she treated Grimm.

So glad your trainer caught this early. Oh, by the way, the one + isn't a true and accurate measurement of the severity of the disease, if the Idexx SNAP test was used. But if the other blood panel was all good, that's a great indicator.

I always recommend getting a copy of the blood test, checking if there is anything at the low or high end or the normal ranges, particualy the RBC, platelets, monocytes and other blood counts. I know here, I've seen a lot of vets pronounce blood tests "normal" when they really weren't frown
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#101916 - 11/06/10 11:38 PM Re: Ehrlichiosis on my 7mo Puppy [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Thanks Lisa

I will compare the Liver support product you named to get an idea of what to look for in here.

Supposedly the blood panel was all good, the trainer was the one who called us when she got the results and that´s what she told us. We´ll get the copy of the bloodtest this wednesday and Ill post it here. And what you said about vets pronouncing blood tests ¨normal¨ is true.

Ill look into Patti´s thread.

Thanks again
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#101919 - 11/07/10 12:08 AM Re: Ehrlichiosis on my 7mo Puppy [Re: Helios]
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I forgot to suggest that you give your dog a big spoonful of yogurt with each meal, or some probiotics (even better!) from the pharmacy. smile This helps a dog when they take antibiotics.

Lisa is a wonderful help for tick-borne diseases! smile
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#101920 - 11/07/10 12:17 AM Re: Ehrlichiosis on my 7mo Puppy [Re: Braverhund]
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Yes, the probiotics or yogurt or kefir are all good! (Best given 2 hours away from food.)

I had to buy Bird Biotic (doxy sold over the counter to treat birds) to treat my boy, I hope your vet (and Mom smile ) help you out with the correct dosage!


Edited by MaxaLisa (11/07/10 12:18 AM)
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#101994 - 11/07/10 11:54 AM Re: Ehrlichiosis on my 7mo Puppy [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Probiotics need to be give about 2 hours away from the Doxy. If scheduling dictated give Probiotics with food that is better than none at all.
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#101998 - 11/07/10 11:59 AM Re: Ehrlichiosis on my 7mo Puppy [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val]
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My secret: I gave the probiotics right before bedtime. I think that may even have been Val's idea! smile
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#102029 - 11/07/10 02:39 PM Re: Ehrlichiosis on my 7mo Puppy [Re: Braverhund]
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Val and Patti, thanks for picking up on that - I meant to say at least two hours away from the *antibiotic* - eek!
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