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#120539 - 01/04/11 03:42 PM Re: Ehrlichiosis on my 7mo Puppy [Re: MaxaLisa]
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A B-12 deficiency can cause low blood counts and platelets from what I've read - I've never seen someone try B-12 to boost the platelets, so I don't know how well it would work.

Low B-12 does occur with SIBO, common in GSDs.
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#122919 - 01/11/11 07:16 PM Re: Ehrlichiosis on my 7mo Puppy [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Lisa, we were so into Helios and turns out that Our Yorkshire also has Ehrlichiosis, his platelets are really LOW (25). We went there because he was lethargic, we were told it was colitis and then that it may be thanks to a poison, but turns out that He has Ehrlichiosis and the UREA is really high (132) though the creatinine is okay; The ALT is also high and so is the AST...
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#122930 - 01/11/11 07:39 PM Re: Ehrlichiosis on my 7mo Puppy [Re: Helios]
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Oops forgot to add that helios's vet app is on January 24 thumbup
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#122961 - 01/11/11 08:22 PM Re: Ehrlichiosis on my 7mo Puppy [Re: Helios]
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I saw that post briefly this morning, I was thinking either ehrlichia or radiator poisoning. The ehrlichia makes sense.

Do you have your Yorkie on liver support? Is he home or at the hospital? Are the vets using doxy only, or doxy and pred?
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#122985 - 01/11/11 09:03 PM Re: Ehrlichiosis on my 7mo Puppy [Re: MaxaLisa]
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He's at the hospital, not sure when he'll back home, the vet told us to wait till tomorrow morning. And nope, he's not on liver support (he'll be as soon as we get him), everything happened so fast, he's been at the hospital since this morning. We were told they'd treat with antibiotics, she named penicillin, I told her if they were going to treat him with Doxy and what dose, she told me that They'd first focus on hydrate (sp?) him, treat with antibiotics and vitamins..
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#122992 - 01/11/11 09:16 PM Re: Ehrlichiosis on my 7mo Puppy [Re: Helios]
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Egads, Penicillin (as you know!) has absolutely no action against ehrlichia - they are going to kill your dog if they don't get themselves straightened out. IV doxycyline/tetracycline, and/or then send them home with the oral stuff - yes, you know that, why doesn't this vet????

If the platelet count doesn't come up after the doxy is used, you will have to add a different medication, but hopefully they will start using the right antibiotic immediately!!
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#123012 - 01/11/11 10:09 PM Re: Ehrlichiosis on my 7mo Puppy [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Originally Posted By: MaxaLisa
Egads, Penicillin (as you know!) has absolutely no action against ehrlichia - they are going to kill your dog if they don't get themselves straightened out. IV doxycyline/tetracycline, and/or then send them home with the oral stuff - yes, you know that, why doesn't this vet????

If the platelet count doesn't come up after the doxy is used, you will have to add a different medication, but hopefully they will start using the right antibiotic immediately!!


Thanks lisa!! I don't think i can do much right now, tomorrow morning we'll be heading there and if the vet still shows no interest on the doxy I will just take him out of there and start the dose, my yorkshire's weight is 5.5lb so the dose supposedly should be 28g twice a day, right? (not sure)

So.. every sympton/result is thanks to the Erchlichiosis? From what I've read he's in the "chronic stage"..which means he has had it for a while and we didn't even notice...
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#123032 - 01/11/11 11:24 PM Re: Ehrlichiosis on my 7mo Puppy [Re: Helios]
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Ehrlichia is called The Silent Killer for a reason, often you don't know until "this" happens. The good thing is that you got a diagnosis. Often vets won't have tick disease on their radar, and they will start treating for something else. So kudos to your vet for getting the diagnosis.

The aggressive dosage is 10 mg/kg (5 mg/lb roughly), but with increased liver enzymes, you might have to do the reduced dosage of about 6 or 7 mg/kg (3 mg/lb roughly). So for 5.5 lb, I would dose between 16 and 28 mg twice a day. The higher dose in that range, absolutely the better....depends on how his digestive system holds out.

For liver support, Milk Thistle is the standard herb used. This is my favorite product: http://www.iherb.com/country-life-biochem-liver-support-factors-100-tablets/1670?at=0 Looks like it takes a couple weeks to ship to Brazil, and $4 (US dollars) for shipping. Might be worth using the Milk Thistle for now and the other for long term?

So glad that the doxy is easily available over there!
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#123037 - 01/11/11 11:34 PM Re: Ehrlichiosis on my 7mo Puppy [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Now I understand why they gave it that name.. Ok so 16 and 28 mg twice a day. His tummy is pretty delicate, it's always been so what if I start with 16 and slightly increase it and see how he handles it?
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#123047 - 01/11/11 11:50 PM Re: Ehrlichiosis on my 7mo Puppy [Re: Helios]
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Originally Posted By: Helios
.... His tummy is pretty delicate, it's always been so what if I start with 16 and slightly increase it and see how he handles it?


That would work. If you start high and go low, it's harder for the dog once their stomach is already upset. You might also stay low for a week or two until the liver support kicks in. You'll have to see how the digestive system holds up. With the platelets so low, it's very concerning.

Watch the stomach for red blotches (bleeding) and pale gums.
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