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#114713 - 12/14/10 02:10 PM Re: Elsa Has HD--Glad We Got Those X-Rays [Re: GSDElsa]
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I don't use the longevity. I use this chewables.

http://www.springtimeinc.com/product/joint_health_formula_chewables/dogs

I think it costs about $13/mth if giving a double dose when you buy it with the buy 2 get 2.

The joint supplement has the MSM, chondritin, and glucosamine as well as some Vit C.


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#114715 - 12/14/10 02:12 PM Re: Elsa Has HD--Glad We Got Those X-Rays [Re: GSDElsa]
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Originally Posted By: GSDElsa
Haha, thanks..I try to limit my googling at work. Shhhhhhhh.

I see Longevity is designed to be mixed with wet food? For those non-raw feeders do you just sprinkle some water over top?

ETA: Is the Buy 2 Get 1 Free offer something they have going on all the time or no? I see they start free shipping on Thursday so I might wait to buy it until them unless this B2G1 deal is going to end before then.


I give Raven the longevity with her dry food. I just add a little water and mix it up. She usually licks the bowl clean.
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#114717 - 12/14/10 02:13 PM Re: Elsa Has HD--Glad We Got Those X-Rays [Re: LifeAsMe]
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List of chiropractors in NY associated with AVCA

http://www.avcadoctors.com/certified_member_doctors/unitedstates2.htm

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#114719 - 12/14/10 02:13 PM Re: Elsa Has HD--Glad We Got Those X-Rays [Re: LifeAsMe]
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One thing to check about a lot of the made for dog supplements is dosages. Many of them really don't have enough of the joint supplements in them to be worthwhile, at least not when dosing by what the package says.

Dosage for a GSD should be 1500mg Glucosamine, 1200mg Chondritin and 1000-1500mg MSM daily. So do the math to make sure she'd be getting enough of those if using the dog supplements. We just use the human variety as it's cheaper, and the dogs are good pill eaters so we don't need it to be in tasty liver chewable or powder form.
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#114728 - 12/14/10 02:23 PM Re: Elsa Has HD--Glad We Got Those X-Rays [Re: Chris Wild]
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Chris - have you ever tried the HA and collagen? I heard people have had good results with the Jarrow's HA. Boeslager uses something completely different but I can't remember what she said.

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#114731 - 12/14/10 02:28 PM Re: Elsa Has HD--Glad We Got Those X-Rays [Re: LifeAsMe]
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We tried the HA and also collagen with Kali for her spondylosis, and saw absolutely no difference. Put Nara on it at the same time, and saw no difference with her either. So we quit using them as they seemed a complete waste of money, at least for these 2 dogs. Though of course all dogs are different and they might help other dogs. I'd just recommend just starting with the basics, and tweaking from there only if needed.
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#114732 - 12/14/10 02:33 PM Re: Elsa Has HD--Glad We Got Those X-Rays [Re: Chris Wild]
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Thanks for the advice and good words guys! I'm really irritated with myself right now. We were going to get this done a good 6 months ago when she hit her imaginary 2nd birthday and life just kind of piled up and we put it off. I feel like I cheated her out of 6 months of a better approach to maintain it. ARGH with myself right now!
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#114734 - 12/14/10 02:37 PM Re: Elsa Has HD--Glad We Got Those X-Rays [Re: GSDElsa]
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You shouldn't feel like that Justine. Did the vet say if there were any signs of arthritis yet? She's not showing any discomfort so she's obviously not in pain. You keep her in sports, you exercise her, hike with her. All that is keeping her muscles strong and helping her hips.

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#114735 - 12/14/10 02:38 PM Re: Elsa Has HD--Glad We Got Those X-Rays [Re: Chris Wild]
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Here are some chiros off of the AVCA site who are in NY and closer to you:

Kelly Foltman DVM Manlius NY 315-682-6434 KSFDVM@windstream.net
Lisa Bancroft DVM Canton NY 315-386-2754
Heather Beaudry-St. Germain DC, LVT Rochester NY 585-663-4262 beaudrystgermain@yahoo.com


Here are practicing graduates from the Chi Institute (Traditional Chinese Veterinary Medicine)who practice closer to you (though not all that close). This is where both my holistic vet and regular vet went.

Kirsten Anderson, DVM
Specialty: Small Animal, Equine
Watertown, NY 13601, USA
Tele: (315)785-8000

Heather Culbertson, DVM, CVA
Specialty: Small Animal, Exotic
Mendon, NY 14506, USA
Tele: (585)624-2240

PS, you asked before about Phoenix's picture. My niece thought he needed to get in touch with his feminine side and needed to wear her pink tutu around his neck. He didn't seem to mind.



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#114737 - 12/14/10 02:47 PM Re: Elsa Has HD--Glad We Got Those X-Rays [Re: DnP]
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The cost of the Longevity is why I use both the Joint Health chewables combined with Longevity. The buy 2, get 1 free deal is always on. Occasionally they also have buy 2, get 2 free or some additional percentage off. If Elsa can't tolerate the fish oil I would use flax. Lisa T uses ground flax seeds, I think.

I feed Rafi ground raw so it's easy to mix in the Longevity. If you want you could start with the Joint Health chewables and then wait to use the Longevity until she gets older. Rafi's joints were such a mess when I adopted him then I decided to start with the super powered stuff. Now you can't even tell he has any issues.

And don't beat yourself up! Most people wouldn't have even gotten x-rays in the first place!
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