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#115181 - 12/15/10 08:05 PM Re: Warm coats and snowsuits for seniors [Re: Chicago Canine]
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Originally Posted By: Chicago Canine
For full coverage, you can't beat K9 Top Coat:
http://www.k9topcoat.com/
Most of their coats have full leg coverage, which may make them harder to put on. However they also have the Kodiak coat made for senior dogs, which covers the body pretty full but has no legs and is made to be easy on/off.
Kodiak: http://www.k9topcoat.com/product.asp?specific=168

Love the K9topcoat body suits! And their option to make it to measure is great.

One question is how close to the body the fabric should be. The ones Lauri uses seem to leave an air layer, so does ChicagoCanine's have a bit of a gap at the back when the dog moves.
http://www.scootersfriends.com/products/product.php?id=41#header
K9topcoat makes them fit very snug:
http://www.k9topcoat.com/product.asp?specific=jnnriqo8

The natural coat (so the dog has one) could be equivalent to the thermal base layer that humans have to put on. But still, I wouldn't want a wide gap. I think an air layer really adds warmth if it is closed in. I have a mens' parka (for the pockets) that is too wide at the bottom, and I always have to tighten the strings b/c the cold creeps in from below.

Some dogs I want to put in two layers (not GSDs).

Chip has since grown into his Obtrack coat, and has outgrown his snowsuit.
His suit was made by people in TX who run JRTs in agility, and needed a warm up suit to use in the NE. It kept Chip's legs nice and warm.
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#116706 - 12/21/10 12:47 PM Re: Warm coats and snowsuits for seniors [Re: shepnterrier]
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Great thread, thanks for posting Sarah.

I love being outdoors in the freezing winter with my little geriatric family, and have been searching for the best way to dress each one appropriately.

I just came across this article about seniors and basic needs, including temperature regulation:

http://www.npr.org/2010/11/22/131516152/helping-your-good-old-dog-navigate-aging

Basic Needs Of Older Dogs

Veterinary behaviorist Nicholas Dodman is the head of the Animal Behavior department at Tufts Cummings School of Veterinary Medicine and has worked with aging dogs for decades. He says that old age isn't a disease, but a stage of life for pets and owners to navigate.

Among the basic things owners need to know about raising older pets, Dodman says, is that older dogs are typically more sensitive to extreme temperature changes because of changes in their metabolism.

"They're really like older people," he explains. "Older people are often the ones who are the victims of these freezing bouts or extremes of heat. They're less able to thermoregulate. So we have to take account of that by making sure they have some kind of blanketlike coat or contraption on to keep them warm and not keep them out so long in cold weather. The same goes for heat. You really don't want to leave them out in the yard, especially tied up on an extremely hot day. They can dehydrate. They're less able to cope with the change in temperature, and it's a recipe for disaster."

(Some more good information in this article about other basic needs of seniors, including end of life care decisions. Just click on the link above.)



Edited by matsired (12/21/10 12:48 PM)
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#116841 - 12/21/10 09:11 PM Re: Warm coats and snowsuits for seniors [Re: matsired]
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Thanks for the link Donna! I just requested his book from the library.
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#118673 - 12/28/10 06:43 AM Re: Warm coats and snowsuits for seniors [Re: LJsMom]
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Just ran across this lightweight fleece jacket -
http://www.sitstay.com/dog/supplies/serv...58901_-1_13971_
If you click on one of the jackets, it has a video to show how it fits.
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#118691 - 12/28/10 09:06 AM Re: Warm coats and snowsuits for seniors [Re: shepnterrier]
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Lisa, These are the Fido Fleece coats (good price at sitstay!):
Originally Posted By: shepnterrier

Fido Fleece are step-ins with a velcro closure on the back. They cover the chest but not the thigh, and tend to be short in the back for a GSD frame, but worth a look if you prefer to let the dog wear the coat over a mobility aid harness:
http://www.discountdogstuff.com/product/PR-FFCOATS2_Fido-Fleece-Dog-Coats
The fleece is warm but not wind proof.

PetEdge copied the Fido Fleece design:
http://www.petedge.com/product/Apparel-A...c/203/54556.uts
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#118755 - 12/28/10 01:28 PM Re: Warm coats and snowsuits for seniors [Re: shepnterrier]
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Oops! I kinda looked to see if you had posted them, but guess I wasn't paying close enough attention. You are very thorough!
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#121153 - 01/06/11 01:48 PM Re: Warm coats and snowsuits for seniors [Re: MaxaLisa]
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This coat falls more into the rain gear wear, and I think it fits Sophie well as it is a 2x large.





But one of the problems is it doesn't hold up to the wind.





This is Millie's old coat on Matsi, and slid all over her.





And also, did not hold up to the wind.





Duke is the only one whose tush stayed warm on this freezing cold day.







Edited by matsired (01/06/11 01:49 PM)
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#121382 - 01/07/11 02:40 AM Re: Warm coats and snowsuits for seniors [Re: Lauri & the Gang]
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Originally Posted By: Lauri & the Gang
I highly recommend Blue Willow Dog Coats!!!

Those are almost identical to one of the type of coats I make. (popular style with sighthounds)





For those with the issue of the coats blowing up in back, I don't have any photos of it but I frequently do elastic for the back legs to prevent that from happening. Its a fairly simple thing to add on as well to a completed coat
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#192166 - 11/06/11 12:16 PM Re: Warm coats and snowsuits for seniors [Re: shepnterrier]
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Originally Posted By: shepnterrier
Not easy to put on, so not good for seniors, but otherwise great are these one-piece snowsuits made of wind and snow blocking high tech fleece (like the Obtrack Skrylle) http://barkandstuff.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=4


A better pic of Chip in this snowsuit.
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#192168 - 11/06/11 12:28 PM Re: Warm coats and snowsuits for seniors [Re: shepnterrier]
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Edited by MaxaLisa (11/06/11 09:14 PM)
Edit Reason: made all links clickable :-)
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