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#114749 - 12/14/10 03:21 PM Re: Elsa Has HD--Glad We Got Those X-Rays [Re: BowWowMeow]
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www.thera-vet.com and they are to the east of Rochester.

Cannot say enough good about them! Tell 'em Jean and Bella sent ya (I want to get some kind of referral bonus someday - I wish they did them)!

Though like Chris, I have dogs x-rayed as having mild-moderate HD who have not yet realized it through exercise and supplements. Though Ava is on a diet now. Again. And Ilsa was severe, so we cut her (femoral) head off. wink
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#114753 - 12/14/10 03:30 PM Re: Elsa Has HD--Glad We Got Those X-Rays [Re: DnP]
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Originally Posted By: DnP

Kelly Foltman DVM Manlius NY 315-682-6434 KSFDVM@windstream.net
Lisa Bancroft DVM Canton NY 315-386-2754
Heather Beaudry-St. Germain DC, LVT Rochester NY 585-663-4262 beaudrystgermain@yahoo.com

Kirsten Anderson, DVM
Specialty: Small Animal, Equine
Watertown, NY 13601, USA
Tele: (315)785-8000

Heather Culbertson, DVM, CVA
Specialty: Small Animal, Exotic
Mendon, NY 14506, USA
Tele: (585)624-2240

PS, you asked before about Phoenix's picture. My niece thought he needed to get in touch with his feminine side and needed to wear her pink tutu around his neck. He didn't seem to mind.



Hmmm. Kelly is a horse vet. She was actually my equine vet before the old man went to greener pastures (literally not figurative). I never considered that she might do chiro on dogs, I guess I'll have to touch base with her. AND she used to be on the far south side of Cazenovia, so it looks like she's closer now!

Most are still an hour-ish away plus it looks like. Not too bad of a drive just a crappy time of year to try and get in with a vet that isn't a quick drive...at least with the way our winter is going this year so far.
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#114757 - 12/14/10 03:48 PM Re: Elsa Has HD--Glad We Got Those X-Rays [Re: GSDElsa]
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As far as advice goes, I got nothin'; I will leave that to all of the other knowledgeable people here. I just wanted to say that I'm sorry Elsa is going through this, but it seems like you will be doing all of the right things to keep her going down the best possible pathway to good health! You're a good doggy mom, don't beat yourself up.

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#114760 - 12/14/10 03:57 PM Re: Elsa Has HD--Glad We Got Those X-Rays [Re: Lexi]
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Anna's hips are fair, one side is worse than the other. She's on Ester C, fishoil/vit e and Longevity. She's on the thin/trim side. That's about all we can do. But after seeing the effects of the above supps on our older boy who does have arthritis, it's a good route IMHO.
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#114766 - 12/14/10 04:27 PM Re: Elsa Has HD--Glad We Got Those X-Rays [Re: aubie]
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I have gone from using the Springtime stuff to the human over the counter joint supplements. Not because I dislike Springtime, but Havoc is allergic to an ingredient in both the joint health and longevity.

On the HD, so sorry to hear that! It is distressing but treat the dog not the x-ray. When Kayos was x-rayed at 15 months before we got serious about agility, the vet recommended putting her down as her hips were so bad. We were just gut shot and stunned. Her breeder was really upset and begged us to get a second opinion before we acted (we would NOT have PTS her!) We went toe vet school and repeated the films. The views were better but the diagnosis was not. Kayos was almost 5 before she showed any signs of problems. She had a THR on her right at 5 1/2. Now we use weight control, supplements and hydrotherapy to keep her strong and fit. She gets an occasional Tramadol when she over does the squirrel chasing. I expect her to live 13 years!

Good care, weight management, judicious exercise and therapy and she may never miss a step.
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#114780 - 12/14/10 04:41 PM Re: Elsa Has HD--Glad We Got Those X-Rays [Re: GSDElsa]
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Originally Posted By: GSDElsa
Originally Posted By: DnP

Kelly Foltman DVM Manlius NY 315-682-6434 KSFDVM@windstream.net
Lisa Bancroft DVM Canton NY 315-386-2754
Heather Beaudry-St. Germain DC, LVT Rochester NY 585-663-4262 beaudrystgermain@yahoo.com

Kirsten Anderson, DVM
Specialty: Small Animal, Equine
Watertown, NY 13601, USA
Tele: (315)785-8000

Heather Culbertson, DVM, CVA
Specialty: Small Animal, Exotic
Mendon, NY 14506, USA
Tele: (585)624-2240

PS, you asked before about Phoenix's picture. My niece thought he needed to get in touch with his feminine side and needed to wear her pink tutu around his neck. He didn't seem to mind.



Hmmm. Kelly is a horse vet. She was actually my equine vet before the old man went to greener pastures (literally not figurative). I never considered that she might do chiro on dogs, I guess I'll have to touch base with her. AND she used to be on the far south side of Cazenovia, so it looks like she's closer now!

Most are still an hour-ish away plus it looks like. Not too bad of a drive just a crappy time of year to try and get in with a vet that isn't a quick drive...at least with the way our winter is going this year so far.


When I saw the addresses, I knew you were looking at an hour plus drive to each. And yeah, I know at this time of year, an hour plus can EASILY be two hours.

BTW, please quit beating yourself up about the timing of getting Elsa's hips x-rayed. Be relieved that you did them NOW when she isn't showing symptoms. Think of yourself being ahead of the game!

In fact, you now have me seriously thinking about getting Phoenix's done. I bet a lot of vets never make the recommendation to get hip x-rays of rescues unless they are showing symptoms.

And sending you a hug as well. Know you want the best for your Elsiepookins.
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#114782 - 12/14/10 04:46 PM Re: Elsa Has HD--Glad We Got Those X-Rays [Re: DnP]
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Poor Elsa frown

Ivy's hips are really bad, some of the worst hips I've seen, and some of the worst some of the board members have seen. Even though they are both very severe, the one side is worse than the other. She's on Vitamin C, fish oil/vit e and Cosequin DS, and she is doing really well on these supplements and its been almost 8 months.
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#114784 - 12/14/10 04:50 PM Re: Elsa Has HD--Glad We Got Those X-Rays [Re: DnP]
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I have access to an Omega 3 supplament that you may want to try if Elsa doesn't do well on fish oil. My brother's dog has the same issues and he can take this with no problems. It must be introduced slowly and at low doses to begin with. Recommended by my holistic vet.

Here it is:

Ulta EFA by RX Vitamins for Pets:

Ultra EFA
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#114792 - 12/14/10 05:36 PM Re: Elsa Has HD--Glad We Got Those X-Rays [Re: DnP]
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We use the Springtime Longetivity for Aodhán. She gets two scoops twice a day and that gives her ~ 1500 mg of the gluocsamine per day. She weighs ~ 75 pounds. I'm not sure how fast we go through the supplement because I bought the buy 2 get 2 free the last time it was on and DH refills a smaller container from the big jars periodically.

With the flax seed - bear in mind that the omega-3 that is in it is the C18 omega fatty acid not the the C22. The body has to convert it to the C22 for best benefit. If she can tolerate it, I think Diana's suggestion may be a better alternative.
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#114798 - 12/14/10 05:50 PM Re: Elsa Has HD--Glad We Got Those X-Rays [Re: Woodreb]
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Justine, I'm so sorry about Elsa. But that's great that she's not showing any signs of discomfort, and that you are getting her on supplements. I know you already keep her in great physical shape, so no worries there!

Can we see her x-rays? I'm just curious to see what moderate HD looks like so I can compare to Rosa.
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