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#26928 - 04/01/10 04:17 PM Re: Max/Food? [Re: vio79]
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Was he the best on the Orijen, itch-wise?

Think really carefully on this!!

You could try just the fish for a few days while you are thinking.
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#26935 - 04/01/10 04:42 PM Re: Max/Food? [Re: MaxaLisa]
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He was only on Orijen for 4 days before we saw the vet and started the potato only diet. Doubt that short amount of time could have told us anything.
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#26939 - 04/01/10 04:56 PM Re: Max/Food? [Re: vio79]
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sorry, I lost track, thought he was on that one before.

Several scenarios.....

He is getting deficient in a number of things that are contributing to the itching....

He can't tolerate the green beans....

He can't tolerate the fish.....

Any instinct Vio?
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#26993 - 04/01/10 07:04 PM Re: Max/Food? [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Yeah, it's hard to keep track of the food. I only can because I've been marking it all on the calendar.

Since he was okay on fish way back and started the eye gooeys after the green beans, we're going to follow your suggestion and remove green beans. Hopefully that helps. Since he's been itching for months, not sure if it's a deficiency thing, though maybe at this point the crazy diets are taking their toll. Then again, he was on Natural Balance Venison and Sweet potato for 4 weeks before we changed to Z/D, which he was on for a week before Orijen, then potato, then fish and green beans. So he should have been getting decent nutrition for a while there.

He also just got his first dose of Revolution for the season.

I guess if he's still bad on the fish, we can try a new protein? Or go back to a kibble with all the vitamins/minerals.
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#26996 - 04/01/10 07:08 PM Re: Max/Food? [Re: vio79]
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Bodies under stress and illness require more of some "stuff"; I am sure that if we found the right nutrient(s), his body would soak it up and make good use of it. I agree with you that it's most likely not the diet, but they I'm sure that they contribute to some degree, and I'm sure he has some sort of deficiencies.

When did he get his first dose of Revolution?

You have lean pork left as a trial for a protein.

If you are giving the quercitin, looks like it's not helping, so might as well not?
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#27015 - 04/01/10 07:48 PM Re: Max/Food? [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Oh, would quercetin work that quickly?

I'm sure you're right about the nutrients.

We gave him the Revolution around 4:30 p.m. (almost three hours ago).

And he just ate his first fish-only dinner.
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#27048 - 04/01/10 08:44 PM Re: Max/Food? [Re: vio79]
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With the quercitin, I would think you would see a bit of an abatement in a couple of days, just like an antihistamine, but it got worse.

Oh, the Revolution was today, already after the itching was worse, just wanted to check on that.

Okay, I guess we see what happens with fish only for a bit.

I really like the idea of no commercial food at this point.
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#27050 - 04/01/10 08:48 PM Re: Max/Food? [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Yeah we had to start giving him some sort of parasite protection, especially with the weather warming up. We used Revolution so he didn't have to take heart worm preventive orally.
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#27318 - 04/02/10 11:25 AM Re: Max/Food? [Re: MaxaLisa]
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We're going to start adding in probiotic. I think the doxy's getting to his stomach. This morning he had yellow-green diarrhea.

I guess kelp would be the next step if nothing changes over the next few days.
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#27374 - 04/02/10 02:09 PM Re: Max/Food? [Re: vio79]
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I don't understand the colors...

I have to imagine the fish and doxy, and that's it, doesn't feel great on the stomach.

I sure wish I knew if he would tolerate flax. I like that Canine Complete (that has kelp in it).

Is his itching *any* better at all?
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