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#11347 - 02/27/10 03:16 PM Re: Mr. Max's Issue(s) [Re: vio79]
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Poor Max. I hope that he does well on the Amoxi and gets better quick!
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#11937 - 02/28/10 01:13 PM Re: Mr. Max's Issue(s) [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Poor Max! Big ol' fella can't catch a break! Still pulling for him and you! hugging
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#11954 - 02/28/10 01:57 PM Re: Mr. Max's Issue(s) [Re: aubie]
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Just throwing this out, but I will be interested in seeing what Max does on the Amoxi, some times ABX will trick an Auto Immune problem into settling down.

On the Fildeco PG girl I would bet it is a difference in hormone levels that has her feeling tinglie or twitchie.

I am a big believer in what different levels of hormones do to dogs.

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#12027 - 02/28/10 05:10 PM Re: Mr. Max's Issue(s) [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val]
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I was wondering the same thing Val.
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#12033 - 02/28/10 05:18 PM Re: Mr. Max's Issue(s) [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val]
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Doxy clears up all of LJ's environmental allergy symptoms.
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#12050 - 02/28/10 05:43 PM Re: Mr. Max's Issue(s) [Re: LJsMom]
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I was also wondering if the Amoxi would affect him at all. I'll let you know!
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#12385 - 03/01/10 01:09 PM Re: Mr. Max's Issue(s) [Re: vio79]
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Here's hoping the amoxi helps! goodluck
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#12757 - 03/02/10 08:08 AM Re: Mr. Max's Issue(s) [Re: aubie]
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Argh, three weeks on the NB diet and his itching is still the same. I would think there would be some slight change.

I hope we're not wasting even more time with this NB diet, because I am going insane! Can't leave him unattended for even 30 seconds, or he'll chew himself raw. It happens that fast. I have to make him follow me wherever I go.

We got pure tea tree oil, so we'll dilute a bit with water and spray him with it. Hoping that will help.

[On a side note, I noticed he seems a lot more tired. Like when we get back from a walk, he'll plop right down on the basement floor, when he used to stay standing so we could dry his belly. Though on the walks themselves, he seems okay.]
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#12766 - 03/02/10 09:26 AM Re: Mr. Max's Issue(s) [Re: vio79]
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May I ask how long the raw diet was for, and was it DIY or premade?

It isn't a cure-all for everything, but a very simple DIY (not a premade mix) limited ingredient raw diet (correctly balanced) may give his body what it needs to help right itself, if done longterm. Variety can be added later.

I am wishing relief for Max!

Edit to add-- it does sound like, with the non-stop scratching and tiredness, a histamine-like reaction. Dogs have other chemicals besides histamine circulating when things flare up. Therefore, sometimes Benadryl helps, sometimes not. Has the vet discussed it with you?
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#12772 - 03/02/10 09:56 AM Re: Mr. Max's Issue(s) [Re: Braverhund]
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Patti,

Benedryl didn't work for him. Not sure if it still wasn't strong enough. The tiredness has only been in the past week or so, maybe even less, whereas the itching has been going on since the beginning of October.

Our raw diet had been a combo of pre-made (Nature's Variety venison) and raw muscle meat (beef). I think we were only on it for a couple of weeks before the vet took him in. We could try simple raw, but I'd have no idea what to use. There really are no novel proteins left that would be affordable. Rabbit is all I can think of, but not sure if it's available raw, by itself.

Maybe turkey or duck? I don't even know if going back to poultry would be okay since we have no idea if he's even allergic to it. I just know chicken/turkey would be the easiest ones to get. Fish could also be a good one. Just that they're all so expensive. And I need something I can use in treat form, too for walks. I can get dried cod treats, venison jerky, lamb treats, etc. No idea on poultry.

What I do know is that when Max was started on Prescription Z/D diet, he seemed to improve. I know it's not great food, but maybe putting him on that and then slowly introducing other ingredients to see if he reacts is the way to go. Unless the Z/D diet no longer works! He was on Ivermectin and Prednisone at the same time....



Edited by vio79 (03/02/10 09:58 AM)
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