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#146553 - 04/04/11 06:18 PM Re: Mason Skin Issues- Thoughts? [Re: MaxaLisa]
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His raw diet begins today!
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#146587 - 04/04/11 08:57 PM Re: Mason Skin Issues- Thoughts? [Re: GSDTrain]
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Hooray for Mason!! party A raw diet is so great for longterm skin issues. Grimm finally stopped itching and chewing at himself... stopped with ear gunkies.. and grew a MUCH thicker, longer coat on raw! party I am sending the very best positive good thoughts for Mason's new raw diet! cheers What a GREAT owner you are! goodjob
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#146592 - 04/04/11 09:09 PM Re: Mason Skin Issues- Thoughts? [Re: Braverhund]
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Thank you Patti!
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#146595 - 04/04/11 09:21 PM Re: Mason Skin Issues- Thoughts? [Re: GSDTrain]
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I will be cheering Mason on! 3penguins The board here is excellent for raw feeding support. Without it, I would never have been able to feed Grimm raw myself. I can feed raw for LESS than I could feed kibble. ( I tried Orijen, Timberwolf, etc.)

You can find Yahoo groups local to you who have people happy to dish the dirt for cheapest local sources to nab a nice haul of bulk raw.

Plus, Lauri's site helps explain the percentages pretty well. Right now, a meal for Grimm looks like this:
One chicken quarter (weighs maybe 12 oz)
A couple of turkey hearts (maybe 2 - 4 of 'em)
a teeny-weeny, itsy-bitsy chunk o' frozen beef liver (size of my thumbnail)
a chunk of frozen pureed veggies (can be found in freezer sect at grocery)
a tablespoon of plain yogurt
2 squirts of fish oil
1 200 IU vitamin E capsule
(Grimm was slowly accustomed to chicken, then turkey, over a few weeks time with the help of people right here on the forum guiding me!:) )

You can also try this: For the first month, grit your teeth and pay for the expensive lurking premade raw.... THEN transition him to whatever homemade raw diet you like, one protien source at a time. Why is this a good way to transition? Because dogs who start raw will happily sometimes puke up some chunks of bone, and that's 100% fine-- but we owners get scared about it when we see it! wink Feeding premade for the first month lets a dog's tummy acids and enzymes learn to handle bone easily while it's all ground up anyhoo. laugh

I began the cheap-o way though.... so I kept bugging people on the forum about the "scary" bone chunks that sometimes happened during the first frew weeks. crazy No problem for the dog-- the owner just worries! wink

A cheap way to nab a freezer is on Craigslist, or Freecycle, or I bought one for just $16t8 with free delivery from Best Buy or Home Depot.

Whatever you decide to do, however you transition Mason-- I am so very proud of you, and so very HAPPY for Mason! happyboogie Here's to happy, healthy skin! cheers
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#146600 - 04/04/11 09:40 PM Re: Mason Skin Issues- Thoughts? [Re: Braverhund]
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Thanks for the support Patti! Hopefully, the transition will be easy for Mason!
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#146606 - 04/04/11 10:11 PM Re: Mason Skin Issues- Thoughts? [Re: GSDTrain]
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I did use Lauri's spreadsheet to help calcualte his precentages
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#146631 - 04/05/11 12:03 AM Re: Mason Skin Issues- Thoughts? [Re: GSDTrain]
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My first few months of feeding the dogs raw were half premade half do-it-myself type stuff. I found that each dog has a different amount of RMB that they need, so it will be trial and error for a bit, but you'll get used to it.

You should also try calling around to different meat distributors in your area and see if any of them sell to the public and start pricing them out. It will definitely help keep the cost down.
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#146640 - 04/05/11 12:33 AM Re: Mason Skin Issues- Thoughts? [Re: mspiker03]
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Oh yes, I forgot to mention: For right now, you would also be wise to consider avoiding all dogtreats even during training, unless they're simple dehydrated chicken or beef (no grains). Using training treats can add chemicals and grains to the diet. Wanna see Mason with healthy skin and no itchies! smile

I have a raw-feeding friend who sometimes uses a grain-free kibble for training treats, but her dogs still do get occasional hotspots.

A great treat made just from dehydrated chicken is PureBites, sold at Petco. smile Not a cheap treat but a nice-sized bag, plus, you can break 'em down into whatever size you want! Great nail-clipping bribe for Grimm. smile
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#146642 - 04/05/11 12:35 AM Re: Mason Skin Issues- Thoughts? [Re: Braverhund]
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I get stuff in bulk at cheap prices from a distributor of Oma's Pride. Maybe a distributor in your area? Turkey hearts, chicken quarters, etc. Nicely affordable!

http://www.omaspride.com
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#146846 - 04/05/11 09:32 PM Re: Mason Skin Issues- Thoughts? [Re: Braverhund]
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Thanks Patti!
Yep...no treats or anything for him! Good thing he is toy motivated and he gets his ball as a reward during training.
I do have some freezer dried beef liver treats that I bought at the pet store...those should be fine to give him eventually correct?

I will defintely begin to look around at different meat distributers for pricing. I do have some old meat in the back of my freezers that I plan to use for him as well, since I read that it won't hurt them at all.

So far, he is handling it very well and seems to really enjoy his meal times now!
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