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#164898 - 06/29/11 11:22 PM Re: Giardia... at my wits end [Re: Diogy Pup]
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My Rotties hips werent covered after paying in to insurance for years. Was hereditary. I think its a scam personally. Now, I would do it for a young pup with no previous issues or an older dog (1-3 years) with NO previous issues. Had I of done Lincoln at 6 weeks old his issues may of been covered thats hes having now.

I have read some companies say they cover hereditary conditions providing they werent pre existing. So if I got insurance 2 years ago on Lincoln, and he got Pannus 9which we suspect he has) that would be covered because he didnt have it before I got insurance. You have to be really careful and get things in writing. I had one insurance company tell me they refuse to cover everything if the dogs vaccines arent up to date, HW meds and flea stuff. So lame. Also, they dont cover anything related to them being left intact but wont cover a thing from issues that arise to them being fixed..

Put money into a savings account thats what I did (but blew it all out when he got issues...sigh)

They will cover accidents. Like when Lincoln got a stick lodged in the back of his throat had I of had insurance they would of covered that because theres no way thats pre existing or hereditary and if someone can tell me how they would warp it into that please share LOL.


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#164908 - 06/29/11 11:51 PM Re: Giardia... at my wits end [Re: proudshepmom]
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My two best tricks for hiding medicine in is liversausage (found in the deli aisle) and cheese whiz.

Good luck!!

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#164910 - 06/29/11 11:52 PM Re: Giardia... at my wits end [Re: Diogy Pup]
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You've got great advice, don't have much to add.

Dante and I battled Giardia for what seemed like forever!
The good news is that perfect poops are here and have been for a long time now.

Animals' Apawthecary Phytomucil was a life saver for us (Contains the mentioned Slippery Elm as well as some other good things)

http://www.amazon.com/Animals-Apawthecary-Phytomucil-Digestive-Tincture/dp/B002V3T4H4

A year or two ago Dante had a Giardia Antigen test come back positive and I treated with Kocci Free and his next test came back negative.

Giardia can be a bear to get rid of, do what you can to ease his gut until it's gone - for Dante it was a horrible cycle.
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#164940 - 06/30/11 08:38 AM Re: Giardia... at my wits end [Re: Barb E]
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I'm another past user of the Phytomucil as well!! Great stuff!

I used it to get Oscar off of Tylosin after having been on it for many weeks for SIBO...I just didn't want him on antibiotics forever just to firm up his poops if I could treat him more holistically. We started with using it 3 or 4x/day and now only give it 3-4x/week just as a tasty snack. smile
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#164946 - 06/30/11 11:33 AM Re: Giardia... at my wits end [Re: LauraHolder]
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Giardia is pretty painful. I had it a couple of times myself. Phytomucil is another good suggestion. You definitely want something that's going to help heal the gut as well as something that will kill the giardia. The probiotic is a good place to start but I would check out some of the other suggestions too.

Rafi had really nasty poops from the coccidia and I treated him with the Kocci Free for 10 days and now his poops are great.
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#164970 - 06/30/11 04:40 PM Re: Giardia... at my wits end [Re: BowWowMeow]
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After yesterday and today on a probiotic and blan diet, Diogy has had a better appetite and is very very playful... Not used to this rambunctious pup! WOW!!! I am just waiting for his doo doo and I'll see if it is better. he has 3 days left on metro than another fecal test. If it comes back positive I am going to get alternative herbs and such. I found a cool holistic vet onine called wellvet.com. I ordered some herbs off there and it has one called Para-Gard that is a bunch of herbs and it says its just as effective as metro.
http://www.wellvet.com/paraguard.html
I will be getting that in a few days. Thanks for the info on the insurance. Sounds like human insurance. I had a cat for 22 years and never had any problems with her, I never thought a dog would be so spendy, but I love him like my boy!
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#164973 - 06/30/11 04:48 PM Re: Giardia... at my wits end [Re: Diogy Pup]
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Glad to hear he's already feeling so much better! I have bought stuff from Wellvet before. I actually did a consult with that guy years ago for my cat, Cleo, when I couldn't get in to one of the local holistic vets.

Just make sure that whatever you buy you check it out carefully for reviews and that you read the directions very carefully. Herbs are really powerful and just like allopathic meds can be overdosed, etc. This is a good site to find reviews of products:
http://onlynaturalpet.com/
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#164990 - 06/30/11 06:09 PM Re: Giardia... at my wits end [Re: BowWowMeow]
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When we first got Ember, it felt like we were always forking over more money for vet stuff for her (and not because she was a puppy and needed shots and stuff, she came to us as an adult, fully vetted!) with her giardia, and then later vaginosis which required surgery. We spent more money on that than we really wanted to. Don't worry, it will get better. He'll get over his giardia and you'll stop feeling like the vet's office is your second home.

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#165394 - 07/02/11 08:05 PM Re: Giardia... at my wits end [Re: proudshepmom]
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Welcome to the forum, and lots of great advice in this thread!!

I just want to add that my boy won't take Panacur easily. I mix it with watered down Apple Juice and put some liver powder crumbs from some old treats and that works like a charm.

I'm also a huge fan of probiotics and l-glutamine.

The other thought is that it's possible that there is a chicken intolerance developing, or one of the things that Kathy mentioned in a post up above.

Hope your pup gets better quickly!
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#165581 - 07/04/11 01:58 AM Re: Giardia... at my wits end [Re: Malinois16]
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Hi everyone, today was our first day no antibiotics. I will take in a fecal sample tomorrow, cross your fingers!
His poops have been half solid and his appetite is huge again. I think he is gaining weight.
I cannot thank you all enough for all your advice and sharing your tricks and experience. It is priceless!
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