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#56371 - 06/22/10 10:33 AM Re: Aodhán's Vet Visit Today [Re: MaxaLisa]
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By the way - what exactly is a "C6".

In my world it's a hexane hydrocarbon rofl2
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#56441 - 06/22/10 02:27 PM Re: Aodhán's Vet Visit Today [Re: Woodreb]
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It's from Idexx Labs: Lyme Quantitative C6 Antibody Test

http://www.idexx.com/view/xhtml/en_us/sm...rsationId=39167

It monitors response to treatment.
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#56448 - 06/22/10 03:12 PM Re: Aodhán's Vet Visit Today [Re: LJsMom]
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For lyme, I would treat any positive on a SNAP, and one guideline is to treat until the C6 has halved in value, another guideline is to get it under 30.

You want to kick the infection in the butt the first time. The aggressive dose of doxy is about 5 mg per lb, but I wouldn't go less than about 2.5 or 3 mg per pound. I would also give some liver support.

About the chiro, I actually prefer using a chiro that is for humans but also treats animals, since they are working on spines every day, all day.
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#56475 - 06/22/10 05:00 PM Re: Aodhán's Vet Visit Today [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Thanks, Joanne,

That link was helpful.

It's funny how we all use abbreviations and such that can end up meaning very different things to different people. One of my old bosses was fond of telling us he wanted to be sure we were all on the same page, I always thought that needed to be qualified to be sure we were also in the same book. laugh

Lisa,

I'll have to check and see what the dosage we're using is when I get home from work.

Do we have a link to things for liver support?

We're still looking at options for the chiro and acupuncture. I found a clinic a couple towns over from us that looks like they have a good service and do both chiro and acupuncture.Want to see if my vet knows anything about them.


Edited by Woodreb (06/22/10 05:03 PM)
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#56496 - 06/22/10 05:47 PM Re: Aodhán's Vet Visit Today [Re: Woodreb]
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It's nice to have a personal recommendation for any of these practitioners. I have to say though, I've been lucky whenever I just picked a person of the list, most all times.

This is the liver support factor that we recommend on the tick list, and I use here: http://www.vitacost.com/Country-Life-Biochem-Liver-Support-Factors I either get it there, or at www.iherb.com

Forgot to ask, how long was the vet planning on treating? I'll be curious to see if you see any changes in her after awhile on the doxy.
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#56558 - 06/22/10 09:51 PM Re: Aodhán's Vet Visit Today [Re: MaxaLisa]
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I checked the dose she's on of the doxy and she's slightly over the 5 mg/lb (~5.3 mg/lb) per day and we've got a 21 day supply.

Thanks for the liver support suggestion. Looks like I may be able to get that at the Vitamin Shoppe, which I go by on my way home from work.

Since I had talked about the chiro and acupuncture with my vet on Monday and he said he would do a little checking for me, I want to give him the courtsey of waiting to talk to him again before I go to someone. We've got a good relationship and I want to keep it that way.
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#56567 - 06/22/10 10:43 PM Re: Aodhán's Vet Visit Today [Re: Woodreb]
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Originally Posted By: Woodreb
I checked the dose she's on of the doxy and she's slightly over the 5 mg/lb (~5.3 mg/lb) per day and we've got a 21 day supply.


Oops, the aggressive dosage I meant to quote was 5 mg/lb *twice* a day. I'm not sure if that would change your answer. For some dogs, 21 days isn't enough, which is where the C6 test helps come into play. I would treat for 6 weeks, only because I've seen the more chronic cases on the tick list.

I hear ya on waiting on the vet to check, cool that the vet is looking into it for you!
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#56573 - 06/22/10 10:56 PM Re: Aodhán's Vet Visit Today [Re: MaxaLisa]
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I wondered about that when I was checking the bottle. What I quoted was her total dose for the day which would put her at about 2.6 - 2.7 mg/lb twice a day.
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#56648 - 06/23/10 01:35 AM Re: Aodhán's Vet Visit Today [Re: Woodreb]
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That's the low dose of doxy. Some vets don't even dose at that level, so it's always important to check!

It's a bit difficult to say too much without a C6 value, though, if it were my dog, I would treat for 4-6 weeks, and that might get modified depending on response to treatment.

She didn't have a blood count run, right?
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#56666 - 06/23/10 09:38 AM Re: Aodhán's Vet Visit Today [Re: MaxaLisa]
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No blood count this time. It was her annual physical and we had just done a full senior panel in March. She did have a draw to check her thyroid levels because the results were low in March and we were doing this as a followup. They weren't low enough for him to want to start treatment, so we decided to do a follow up in 3-6 months and see where she was. And it's not the full thyroid panel that he was doing. We did not discuss that.

I'm going to talk to him about the C6.

My DH, who is home with them all day, thinks that she's showing a bit more energy and alertness since Monday, when we started the doxy. But I think it's too early to tell for sure.
And I don't have the thyroid results yet. Should be getting that today or tomorrow.
With what could be 3 different things going one with her - possible pinched nerve, Lyme, and low thyroid it's going to be a little difficult to evaluate how she's doing just by observation.

ETA: And it's hot here, so she's a bit less active from the heat, too. Both dogs are content right now to hide out in the basement and rest.


Edited by Woodreb (06/23/10 09:43 AM)
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