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#171561 - 08/04/11 08:17 PM Re: ultrasound for the heart?/adrenals? SIBO? [Re: MaxaLisa]
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I can understand the concern about Max crashing, is the ACU Vet willing to talk to Dr. Plechner about that concern? Maybe he has seen more cases and has a better handle on how dogs react to the protocol.
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#171576 - 08/04/11 10:59 PM Re: ultrasound for the heart?/adrenals? SIBO? [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val]
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What does the cardio vet think about the steroids?
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#171585 - 08/04/11 11:45 PM Re: ultrasound for the heart?/adrenals? SIBO? [Re: LJsMom]
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Val, I think the Acu vet has her own plan, but I also think it's influenced by Plechner's ideas. This is the first time any vet has taken his antibiotic dependence issue really seriously, and that alone brings me some relief and hope that we might be able to manuever through this. I will ask her though if she has talked with him. I do have his book on order for reference.

Joanne, I was worried about that too. With it working overtime now, I don't know how much more it can handle. I didn't ask the cardio, but she did say that it was already crunching down as hard as it can to keep up frown
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#171621 - 08/05/11 05:38 AM Re: ultrasound for the heart?/adrenals? SIBO? [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Pred, are they supposed to lose weight when on it?
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#171625 - 08/05/11 06:49 AM Re: ultrasound for the heart?/adrenals? SIBO? [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Lisa I so wish I could offer some advice.

Would it be possibe to try and arrange a conference call between yourself and all Max's vet's?

I am keeping you both firmly in my thoughts and prayers hugging
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#171646 - 08/05/11 09:16 AM Re: ultrasound for the heart?/adrenals? SIBO? [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Originally Posted By: MaxaLisa
Pred, are they supposed to lose weight when on it?


Rica was on pred for a long time (low dose, once or twice a week) after she was diagnosed with HD. I never had trouble keeping weight on her in all that time. So I don't think the pred acts to promote weight loss. It does tend to stimulate the appetite. Rica was a chow hound as a result and I had to reort to some innovative means tokeep her out of the dog food. It was amazing how she figured out how to get in to closed and tightly covered cans.
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#171651 - 08/05/11 09:50 AM Re: ultrasound for the heart?/adrenals? SIBO? [Re: Woodreb]
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I know in humans, pred tends to cause weight gain, not loss.
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#171663 - 08/05/11 12:34 PM Re: ultrasound for the heart?/adrenals? SIBO? [Re: DancingCavy]
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Lisa,

I really admire you for thinking creatively and critically about Max's care but this is awfully challenging.

As you say, including the hormonal issues on top of everything else is a step forward.

many best wishes,
Mary Jane

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#171679 - 08/05/11 02:35 PM Re: ultrasound for the heart?/adrenals? SIBO? [Re: Mary Jane]
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That's what I thought about the pred. I figure it's either weight loss from the loss of muscle, which I can already feel, or weight loss because the cortisol is helping his thyroid work better, as he has had hypothyroidism that is unresponsive to medication.

Thank you MJ, very frustrated here. As I take stock of "what I did on my summer vacation", I realize that, while I've learned a lot, not one realistic step forward on the breathing issue though. I guess stuff that has to be gone through, but I sure would like for him to feel better.

I guess, avoiding an Addison's type crash, is one important thing that we have done though.


Edited by MaxaLisa (08/05/11 02:36 PM)
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#171707 - 08/05/11 03:54 PM Re: ultrasound for the heart?/echocardiogram [Re: MaxaLisa]
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He's losing the hair on his ears....
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