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#173480 - 08/16/11 12:34 AM Re: What is this?? [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Smokey has never had fleas whole 15 years. We have moved and maybe the place here just has more fleas. Getting something new makes me a little iffy to. Its like $96 for a year. Its way more to have a heartgaurd and something topical. I don't know what ill do. I still have two heartgaurds left so I can think about it.

Why don't you like combo things?
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#173482 - 08/16/11 12:55 AM Re: What is this?? [Re: frillint]
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I use the Bug Off but honestly I think it works better for ticks than for fleas. The NEEM protect shampoo really works great for fleas and the spray is also great (both are made by Azmira). For hotspots I use calendula...of course. smile
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#173491 - 08/16/11 02:11 AM Re: What is this?? [Re: frillint]
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Originally Posted By: frillint
Why don't you like combo things?


I just don't trust them. I think they either tend to be ineffective in one area, or have a higher risk of adverse reactions overall. And if there is a reaction, you just don't know which part is reacting.

If you think the flea thing is new and temporary, I for sure wouldn't switch. I would treat the environment, and use topicals, or things similar to what Ruth is mentioning, until they get under control.

When I was in school, I took care of someone's cat, and it brought a lot of fleas into the apartment. It was so frustrating. I didn't have a pet at the time, except for the resident cat that hung out wherever he wanted, and he didn't have fleas. I remember how difficult it was!
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#173496 - 08/16/11 03:14 AM Re: What is this?? [Re: MaxaLisa]
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I do kind of like the idea of having a flea preventative/killer that way we won't have to worry about it. Since if he did get them from me bringing them from a friends they have lots of animals and don't treat, so we may end up bringing them back. I also like having the chewable tablet, because he gets a bath every month and with topical I wouldn't be able to give him a bath without washing it away, so if I stay with the heartgaurd what flea preventative/killer would you suggest. I have mixed feelings about frontline plus to many people say it works then others say it don't.
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#173497 - 08/16/11 03:25 AM Re: What is this?? [Re: frillint]
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Originally Posted By: frillint
I..... so if I stay with the heartgaurd what flea preventative/killer would you suggest....


You know, I don't have to deal with fleas, so I don't know. I might look at Advantage (Advantix if ticks are a concern), if I went the topical route.
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#173500 - 08/16/11 05:07 AM Re: What is this?? [Re: MaxaLisa]
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For what it is worth, I use Advantix and have never found a flea here. Although Molly did have the really bad hotspot that I posted about here and the vet thought it was a flea allergy that caused it. I've also never found a tick on her(touch wood).
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#173519 - 08/16/11 10:21 AM Re: What is this?? [Re: bianca]
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Penny has flea allergy and frontline and advantix did not work on her, she itched until I starting using comfortis- so if I were you I would use the comfortis and something different for heartworms. Regardless of that the hot spot needs attention. Many have described effective ways for you to do this yourself at home.
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#173527 - 08/16/11 11:06 AM Re: What is this?? [Re: Natalie559]
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Natalie: As I said above. You may have missed it, but my vet thinks that smokey does not have hot spot. She thinks all the red and scabs on his butt area are from him biteing so much she believes that its a flea allergy and not hot spot.

She gave me comfortis for two months to hopefully clear up the stuff on his back. Maybe I will stick with heartgaurd and get comfortis for the fleas. Some said their dog was lethargic, didn't eat, and had the tremors, but he seems just like he always is.
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#173549 - 08/16/11 02:08 PM Re: What is this?? [Re: frillint]
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Hi frillint,

While your vet is no doubt correct (since he/she actually examined your dog in person) that your dog currently has a flea related skin irritation going on, be aware that many hot spots begin in precisely that way! What is a relatively mild irritation today could readily progress to something far worse, including a hot spot, simply by having your dog lick or scratch at the area. So your vet and Natalie are both right...he has something that is the early stage of a hot spot that will likely progress unless you're vigilant (as you've been so far) in keeping it from doing so.

You need to:
1) prevent further irritation/injury to the area, especially caused by licking/scratching
2) Address the possible flea problem
3) Keep a very close eye on the irritated skin area and if you see ANY sign of it spreading or getting worse in any way, contact your vet to let him/her know immediately.
4) Keep the affected area clean and dry

That's the bare minimum required to help Smokey and it may not be enough. His ability to fight off infection on his own at age 15 (?) may be lower than it would be in a young dog, so he may need some additional help.

People have offered all kinds of suggestions with respect to how you can alleviate his symptoms and I'm sure you'll find a way to use some of them and make him feel better. He didn't get to be this age without your TLC all these years, so I'm confident you'll find a way to help him now as well.

So, flea allergy dermatitis or early hot spot in the making, either way...keep an eye on it and continue to ask questions as needed. The kind people here are always willing to help if they can and truly care about you and your dog.

Best regards,
Diane

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#173561 - 08/16/11 02:57 PM Re: What is this?? [Re: Diane]
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Thank you very much everyone here for all your help. I gave him his comfortis yesterday and maybe its just me, but he has not been itching that much today when ever I do see him itch I stop him. I will definatly keep an eye on him and hope its gets better not worse. I cleaned the house yesterday and I vaccume a lot. The vet combed him with a flea comb and didn't find any fleas, but still thinks that its is from fleas. I am making sure it's nice and dry.

How can I stop him from licking and biteing it? I can't watch him 24/7. I do think he will get better.
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