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#183898 - 09/26/11 12:37 AM Re: Kelso is sick :( -anemia/recent DHLPP.. [Re: kelso]
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Hope I'm remembering this correctly, but I believe when the Hooligans have been on steroids our vet gave them sucralfate/Carafate ... it was kind of messy but seemed to work pretty good.

The latest picture of Kelso is fantastic ... he sure looks like he's feeling a lot better than in the last one!!! wub
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#183899 - 09/26/11 12:42 AM Re: Kelso is sick :( -anemia/recent DHLPP.. [Re: kelso]
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Also, had to add a photo of Allie (with the lion that he de-faced)

She always looks out for Kelso and takes care of his de-stuffed and de-faced toys wub

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#183905 - 09/26/11 03:41 AM Re: Kelso is sick :( -anemia/recent DHLPP.. [Re: kelso]
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Allie has no arms shocked

rofl okay, that's just how it looked at first, how sweet she is! And yes, Kelso looks like he is feeling a TON better smile

I guess in my mind, I don't think of an infection as AIHA, since an infection can decrease all that stuff without it being autoimmune. I think of AIHA as a different process. I can see the terms being co-mingled though. It is true that in some of these infections, there is immune system dysregulation that looks like (and might be) autoimmune. So perhaps, in my mind, I make a distinction where there really isn't any.

However, when talking to vets, when they talk of AIHA, I really do think that they mean it's a process without infection. I could be wrong!!

On the tick list, a lot of folks use pepcid to protect the stomach from doxy. I know that Carafate has to be separated by 2 hours.

No fun with all the pee problems....I so hope that he turns a corner soon!
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#183907 - 09/26/11 04:22 AM Re: Kelso is sick :( -anemia/recent DHLPP.. [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Thanks for the updates Steph - Kelso certainly looks brighter eyed in the last photo and Allie is as sweet as ever. No matter what has caused this problem, I look forward to seeing a reversal in the lab results as his body fights this problem. I wonder if there is an immune enhancing diet or supplement to help support his recovery in addition to the steroid therapy??
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#183910 - 09/26/11 05:29 AM Re: Kelso is sick :( -anemia/recent DHLPP.. [Re: Qyn]
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I'm afraid this is all way above my head but just wanted you to know I am reading and keeping Kelso in my thoughts. So pleased he is obviously feeling a bit better hugging
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#183965 - 09/26/11 11:09 AM Re: Kelso is sick :( -anemia/recent DHLPP.. [Re: kelso]
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Originally Posted By: kelso
Also, had to add a photo of Allie (with the lion that he de-faced)

She always looks out for Kelso and takes care of his de-stuffed and de-faced toys wub





Isn't that sweet ... true teamwork!!! Dr. Kelso performs the radical stuffyectomies while Dr. Allie critiques his surgical skills!!!
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#183981 - 09/26/11 11:52 AM Re: Kelso is sick :( -anemia/recent DHLPP.. [Re: arycrest]
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Kel def looked a lot better in that beautiful photo! Glad he's acting better. I just hate it's still so up in the air for you guys. HUGS!!
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#184223 - 09/27/11 02:25 AM Re: Kelso is sick :( -anemia/recent DHLPP.. [Re: Qyn]
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Originally Posted By: Qyn
.... I wonder if there is an immune enhancing diet or supplement to help support his recovery in addition to the steroid therapy??

Ar this point, even I'm afraid to try too much here. If there is an autoimmune component (with or without infection), one has to be careful to not boost the immune system. But, protecting the gut is important.


Probiotics are important, between abx. I've never used Carafate, but funny it's mentioned, I just started Max on some left over from Indy, in case some of his discomfort is from ulcers from the pred or doxy.

On the AIHA forum, they use something called Petinic (sp?) A lot, though I can't look it up right now.

Continued good thoughts for Kelso!
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#184383 - 09/27/11 03:46 PM Re: Kelso is sick :( -anemia/recent DHLPP.. [Re: MaxaLisa]
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I looked this up for you Lisa. Petinic is an high iron based vitamin solution.
http://www.drugs.com/vet/pet-tinic.html

I am glad the Kelso is feeling better.
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#184396 - 09/27/11 04:15 PM Re: Kelso is sick :( -anemia/recent DHLPP.. [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val]
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Originally Posted By: Wisc.Tiger_Val
I looked this up for you Lisa. Petinic is an high iron based vitamin solution.
http://www.drugs.com/vet/pet-tinic.html


Thanks Val, that makes sense!
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