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#259158 - 11/01/12 03:01 PM Re: My new foster - Cheyenne (help needed) [Re: myamom]
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Oh, I'm so sorry to hear about Cheyenne and I understand how stressful this is for you. hugging

What about colloidal silver? You can spray it on or use a cotton ball and it's supposed to be very effective in treating staph infections. I have used it successfully for my cats to clear up URIs and eye infections in my cats and also Rafi. My vet recommended it for some skin problems that Rafi had earlier in the summer.
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#259159 - 11/01/12 03:54 PM Re: My new foster - Cheyenne (help needed) [Re: myamom]
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Oh, no! I'm so sorry, Mary Ann. hugging Perhaps the E. coli, staph, and other bugs are just normal bug gone wild due to a senior citizen's lowered immune system capabilities? I'm so sorry you're having to separate the fur buddies and re-structure the household right now. May the culture come back soon!

Is Cheyenne on any good, strong probiotics? Just wondering. I don't mean yogurt, but a good probiotic mix from the healthfood store that needs to be kept refrigerated. Just a thought here for boosting immunity.

Sending positive vibes for Cheyenne's skin, groin area, and kidneys. Wishing for only the best and rapid improvements! crossedfingers crossedfingers crossedfingers
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#259228 - 11/01/12 11:47 PM Re: My new foster - Cheyenne (help needed) [Re: Braverhund]
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I wonder if topical coconut oil would help the sores.

Oregano oil may help with the e.coli.
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#259237 - 11/02/12 01:53 AM Re: My new foster - Cheyenne (help needed) [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Originally Posted By: MaxaLisa
I wonder if topical coconut oil would help the sores.

Oregano oil may help with the e.coli.


The colloidal silver will be more effective than oil of oregano, I think. You can definitely put coconut oil on the sores but it sounds like they need something stronger.
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Varda & Gio (the crazy cattens)
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#259240 - 11/02/12 03:52 AM Re: My new foster - Cheyenne (help needed) [Re: BowWowMeow]
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There are some studies cited about colloidal silver in the middle of this article, which I didn't read, but certainly would if I were trying to put together a program to fight this stuff: http://colloidalsilversecrets.blogspot.com/2011/06/colloidal-silver-and-e-coli.html

curcumin: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16161063

oregano oil:
http://www.staph-infection-resources.com...mrsa-and-staph/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22064737

Sores probably need something stronger, but I would use it as part of the protocol: http://www.westonaprice.org/know-your-fats/more-good-news-on-coconut-oil
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#259249 - 11/02/12 06:45 AM Re: My new foster - Cheyenne (help needed) [Re: MaxaLisa]
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I wish I had some suggestions but instead sending so many hugging and good thoughts for Miss Chey.
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#259267 - 11/02/12 08:20 AM Re: My new foster - Cheyenne (help needed) [Re: bianca]
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Thank you for all the ideas!

probiotic makes sense!

colloidal silver...reading all that is making my head spin...should it be sprayed on her...or ingested? still reading all the articles posted....I have a friend here that is touting the benefits of the oils too.......I don't even know how to begin putting a program together.

Poor Cheyenne is now gated off...she's sad...I'm sad...I didn't know what else to do frown

My living room has a big baby gate right down the middle...ugh.

I HAVE to deep clean this house over the weekend...can anyone suggest a nontoxic cleaner that will kill staph and e-coli?
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#259280 - 11/02/12 10:44 AM Re: My new foster - Cheyenne (help needed) [Re: myamom]
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It looks like you can get this from eating chicken (because they are pumped full of antibiotics). So we're all at risk anyway. eek

I wrote to my vet and asked the question about using CS as a spray and/or giving it internally.

It also looks like allicin (one of the components of garlic) can be used to treat antibiotic resistant e-coli. It looks like that has been well studied. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10594976
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Rafi, the german malaroo, age 9.5ish
http://www.dogster.com/dogs/693238

Varda & Gio (the crazy cattens)
...............
Warming my heart:
Queen Cleopatra
Chama
Kai
Basu
Massie

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#259294 - 11/02/12 12:06 PM Re: My new foster - Cheyenne (help needed) [Re: BowWowMeow]
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Thank you for looking into that Ruth. I'm still very confused by all of this...when I think of e-coli...I think of intestinal issues, etc. I'm not sure what it has to do with sores on her body/ why it's manifesting that way? And HOW did she get it...is what is really freaking me out! I mean...she's pretty sheltered. My house, my yard. I have been taking them for long walks in the woods recently...but she already had this. I'm not sure how long she has had this...I only noticed about 1 1/2 months ago or so. But it's in her groin area...a place where it could have been for months without me noticing. Could she have picked up over the summer at the lake? from wild animal droppings? lake water? I don't feed raw. I just don't understand all this. My vet simply said...it's all around us.
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#259295 - 11/02/12 12:13 PM Re: My new foster - Cheyenne (help needed) [Re: myamom]
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Manuka Honey...UMF15 at minimum.

Geisinger Infectious Disease doc recommended it for DD's MRSA and said it's been successful in managing other skin diseases that are antibiotic resistant. You can apply topically and take internally.

e-coli is everywhere. It's a natural bacteria in our system. The majority of UTI"s are caused by e-coli.

D-Mannose is a sugar that strips the outer cell wall from e-coli. Its taken for UTI's and kidney health.

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