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#160240 - 06/07/11 07:21 PM Re: ultrasound for the heart?/Strategy Session [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Well, had an appointment with the vet and talked things over today.
I have to say, I so love this vet. Very logical thinker, understands how I like to care for my dogs, AND also handles me well. What a combination! She also loves Max wub


Heartworm test was negative.

Lungs sound completely clear. Last chest xray was in 2008, where the radiologist referred to the whispy stuff as "dirty lung", but no evidence of disease - he called it "old dog lung". A recheck xray of the chest is still on the list of possible things to do.

She could hear nothing wrong with the heart, though there still can be heart disease. She didn't see cause at this point to do an EKG, since she didn't seem to hear any heartbeat abnormalities. She could see how his heart can pound so violently (at rest) that his ears vibrate. She says that's a lot like a dog with a large heart, though the old chest xrays don't show that evidence. I think she is still leaning towards redoing xrays before doing something like an echocardiogram.

When we were brainstorming, she did mention some forms of pulmonary hypertension. I have a wrist BP monitor that I used to use on Indy....I should start taking his more regularly and see what his current pattern is. She also mentioned maybe bronchitis, though he never coughs, which she would expect. Of course, he fits nothing clearly.....

The stomach doesn't feel right, and hasn't for awhile. It feels kinda thick. The spleen wasn't enlarged today, but it typically isn't if he is on doxycycline. But because the stomach feels "thicker", she didn't get a good feel of the spleen. I know that with some of that abdominal thickening, it can be hard to distinguish between IBD and something like GI lymphoma. His last abdominal u/s, 3/09, when his spleen was enlarged, just showed an enlarged spleen and nothing else out of the ordinary.

So, tomorrow at 7pm he will have an abdominal ultrasound as our starting point. That's when their u/s guy is coming in, and I figured I should just get this done because I am just obsessing about all the terrible things that might be making him feel crappy. After (during?) that, the next step will be determined.

We had to chuckle, since I seem to be chasing zebras with him. I told the vet I would be more than happy to have a horse prance through, but nothing ever seems clear with him shrug

She did mention how good he actually looks though, for a 10 year old dog, in terms of coat, grey-ness, etc. I just wish he felt better. Glad I didn't wait until the appointment next week or later. Now that I'm home, I'm anxious to get this started!
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#160264 - 06/07/11 09:30 PM Re: ultrasound for the heart?/Strategy Session [Re: MaxaLisa]
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So sounds good - his ears vibrate? I am hoping equally good on the utrasound.
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#160269 - 06/07/11 09:49 PM Re: ultrasound for the heart?/Strategy Session [Re: JeanKBBMMMAAN]
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Thanks Jean, me too smile

Oh, yeah, the vibrating ears - seems like his heart might burst sometimes. I can't imagine what it would be like if he were very active nowadays.
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#160316 - 06/08/11 02:29 AM Re: ultrasound for the heart?/Strategy Session [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Good luck with the ultrasound tomorrow!!!
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#160317 - 06/08/11 04:29 AM Re: ultrasound for the heart?/Strategy Session [Re: arycrest]
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Wishing for horses or ponies tomorrow hugging
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#160467 - 06/08/11 08:38 PM Re: ultrasound for the heart?/Strategy Session [Re: bianca]
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Thanks, just hanging out for a bit before we have to get ready to go. Only a bit nervous at this point!
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#160500 - 06/08/11 11:21 PM Re: ultrasound for the heart?/Strategy Session [Re: MaxaLisa]
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*Zooming good thoughts south*
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#160511 - 06/08/11 11:46 PM Re: ultrasound for the heart?/Strategy Session [Re: Barb E]
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The u/s was delayed for about 1/2 hour or so - accident on the road delayed the guy. I tried again to ask for a sneak peak of the heart, since they said no, I okayed the chest xrays, w/o anesthesia.

Just waiting now. Guess I'm waiting to hear that I just spent a bunch of money for nothing. Funny the way that works.

Will update when I get home.
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#160516 - 06/08/11 11:51 PM Re: ultrasound for the heart?/Strategy Session [Re: MaxaLisa]
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smile Sometimes there is nothing better than spending a bunch of money for nothing!!

*Fingers and paws crossed in the E house*
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#160528 - 06/09/11 02:31 AM Re: ultrasound for the heart?/Strategy Session [Re: Barb E]
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You're right Barb!

Well, they didn't really find anything, which is good.

The ultrasound, I have been giving him gas-x for the last two days so that they get a good look at everything (he usually has too much gas), and they did find a larger spleen, which they said was a bit smaller than the last time, and GSDs tend to have larger spleens and it is within that. All the organs, etc. look fine.

He does however, have small adrenals. So small, that they couldn't be visualized. His regular vet had thought that maybe some of his issues are metabolic, and that makes me wonder a bit. The ultrasound vet said that small adrenals are good (they don't like large), but I"m not so sure they are good in this instance, so it might be a clue. I did find some weird things with bladder and pelvic pain associated with small adrenals in cats....

The xrays, nothing major. There might be something there, but she thinks it's mostly aging. She's going to have the radiologist look at them and probably talk to me tomorrow.

So. Overall very good news, a lot of stuff ruled out. He still doesn't feel any better, but I have much less of a sense of doom than I did just a bit ago!
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