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#214948 - 02/23/12 06:46 PM Re: My Max's Dental Cleaning Appointment [Re: TimberWolf]
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Has he ever had surgery before? That always makes me feel better.

This might help: http://ahdc.vet.cornell.edu/clinpath/modules/coags/bmbt.htm
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#214962 - 02/23/12 07:39 PM Re: My Max's Dental Cleaning Appointment [Re: JeanKBBMMMAAN]
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Originally Posted By: JeanKBBMMMAAN
Has he ever had surgery before? That always makes me feel better. This might help: http://ahdc.vet.cornell.edu/clinpath/modules/coags/bmbt.htm


The only serious procedure he has had was heartworm treatment but that did not require surgery. I don't remember if they did a blood test for that though. He had it done right after we adopted him several years ago. And he is neutered. So I guess that would have been the only surgery he had while he still was at the shelter. I have done other blood panels the first two years he has been with us because he came to us with many parasites and I wanted to be sure he recovered correctly. That, too has been several years ago, so I don't know if they checked for blot clotting potential but all tests came out good at those times. Thank you for the link Jean. This is very interesting. I have never heard of this before so I am glad and relieved it was mentioned here. I will definitely request them running that test to be sure.
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#215008 - 02/24/12 02:19 AM Re: My Max's Dental Cleaning Appointment [Re: TimberWolf]
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I found that some raw beef bones every week would keep their teeth clean so that they didn't need dentals. One of mine had pancreas issues and the raw did bother her slightly, but giving a digestive enzyme with the bone helped that.
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#215047 - 02/24/12 09:03 AM Re: My Max's Dental Cleaning Appointment [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Originally Posted By: MaxaLisa
I found that some raw beef bones every week would keep their teeth clean so that they didn't need dentals. One of mine had pancreas issues and the raw did bother her slightly, but giving a digestive enzyme with the bone helped that.


What kind of digestive enzyme. He has been using a pro-biotic for his digestive issues and that seems to do very well. Can you recommend a good enzyme? Would that show up on a blood test? Thanks for your input.
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#215069 - 02/24/12 11:20 AM Re: My Max's Dental Cleaning Appointment [Re: TimberWolf]
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For a GSD, the pancreatic insufficiency, EPI, can be tested for. Well, any dog, just very common in GSD!

My girl Indy used to get flairs of pancreatitis. It only showed in her bloodwork during a flair. I just noticed, when she was young, the enzymes made her better, so she got them most of her life. Later in her life I even had to add a second type.

This is the one that worked for her:
http://m.vitacost.com/mt/www.vitacost.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Jarro-Zymes-Plus/?pid=23392&xVE=%2fJarrow-Formulas-Jarro-Zymes-Plus
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#215081 - 02/24/12 12:24 PM Re: My Max's Dental Cleaning Appointment [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Basia has been completely sedated under my care once, when she needed stitches from getting bit by another dog. Anesthesia was a concern of mine as well, but she was quite alright with it. And then when in the rescue, she was completely sedated at least twice (she was spayed twice because they didn't get everything the first time and she ended up going into heat) and I presume there were no reactions then either.

Also, the other day I shadowed at a vet clinic and I saw them sedate many dogs and cats for various procedures (the cat had the dental work), and all of the animals came out of it just fine. It was actually quite nice and reassuring for me to see how things work back there behind the scenes.

I didn't read all of the posts but I saw some talk about raw feeding, which I was going to recommend as well. It is miraculous how much Basia's teeth improved after I switched her to raw (along with her coat and much more). She had sooo much tartar build up from kibble and after just a couple months it had completely disappeared. She probably will never need dental work done now. Starting the raw was daunting for me as well, but it wasn't that bad and I did get the hang of it pretty quickly. The trainer that I see was giving a seminar about raw feeding, which is what really helped me get jump-started. I would start with some chicken drumsticks, skin, bone, and all, like you were saying. The one thing I'd have to warn about is if Max doesn't chew the bone as much as he should, he might throw it back up. Basia does that once in a while, she's such a fast eater. She has pancreas issues as well but she did fine with the change. Once I switched to raw I would never think about going back to kibble, it's amazing. Hope it helps!
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#215083 - 02/24/12 01:45 PM Re: My Max's Dental Cleaning Appointment [Re: BasiaBear]
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Gosh, you guys are an inspiration. Thank you so much. Checked the chicken wings and drumstick prices at Whole Foods and a family pack is very reasonable and will last me a week.

I noticed the bones have the marrow in it. Can the dogs eat that, too or is that too rich for them? What do you think?

I am going to start after Max's procedure because I don't want to risk him going into the procedure with his tummy upset. Yes, he definitely eats very fast and swallows stuff unchewed. So, I think giving it to him frozen will help to slow him down.

Lisa, thank you for the link to the pancreatic enzymes. I have to order some stuff from Swansons anyway, so I might as well order that with it.

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/JR024/ItemDetail?n=0

I am going to keep the VitaCost page bookmarked so I can compare prices between the two as I order supplements in the future. It's always great to have another resource.

I love you guys. Thank you. You have no idea how much I appreciate this.


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#215112 - 02/24/12 04:01 PM Re: My Max's Dental Cleaning Appointment [Re: TimberWolf]
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Elvi, I'm going to answer some of your questions on the RAW topic I started - Good Prices. Don't want to hijack the dental thread!
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#215710 - 02/27/12 02:08 PM Re: My Max's Dental Cleaning Appointment [Re: GrandJan]
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I am dropping Max off at 8:30 a.m. tomorrow morning for his dental procedure. Would appreciate any good wishes, thoughts and prayers. Thanks.

Max thanks you, too







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#215734 - 02/27/12 04:07 PM Re: My Max's Dental Cleaning Appointment [Re: TimberWolf]
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