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#258333 - 10/28/12 08:29 AM Re: Separation Anxiety [Re: PositiveDog]
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Excellent, and worth the money if it helps in the long run!
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#258352 - 10/28/12 11:18 AM Re: Separation Anxiety [Re: Good_Karma]
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Lisa, I am glad you are seeing progress even though at an additional and unplanned expense. It definitely helps to have people who know what they are doing help. Hopefully, soon Jazzy will be comfortable enough to be left alone at home without a problem. Hugs
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#258358 - 10/28/12 12:19 PM Re: Separation Anxiety [Re: TimberWolf]
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Thank you guys, I hope I can do this sensitization thing right so she can be left alone, eventually!

Ruth, no, I had stopped everything but leaving her in the crate, door closed, and leaving the room, which is huge in itself. If I can't leave the room, there is no way I can leave the house frown

I think next week I will start going upstairs while he is in her crate and change up those circumstances.
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#258397 - 10/28/12 04:57 PM Re: Separation Anxiety [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Thinking more about what Ruth said, I will start adding the keys, and also moving my backpack around as part of the next step, as well as putting her in the crate with the door closed at times other than meal times.

Removing the fear/terror she had from being left alone all day, twice a week, I think has made a big difference.
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#258507 - 10/29/12 08:33 AM Re: Separation Anxiety [Re: MaxaLisa]
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This is great news smile
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#260349 - 11/12/12 01:33 PM Re: Separation Anxiety [Re: bianca]
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Just updating....

Daily day care is very stressful for her, she was starting to get worse instead of better. She had a weird anxiety attack at agility (shades of max frown ). Turns out she had a pretty good UTI (might be vaginitis, vet is not sure). No bacteria seen, but a very high WBC. We treated with cipro, it came back again, treated again. Completely changed her personality, the vet that hasn't seen her but once had noticed what a different dog she was after the cipro. She is just coming off the cipro now, so I hope that it doesn't return. My folks, several of the neighbors and folks have school have also noticed the huge difference in her overall from this too. I knew something was wrong, but there was nothing obvious. She did pee once in the car, and a couple times during the night, but it was not clear if that was a housetraining issue or excitement pee'ing. She showed practically no symptoms - I took her in for a blood panel and UA for a baseline when she turned a year old.

I started her on St. John's Wort for real for the anxiety, since the next step would have to be drugs. We are at about day 6 or so. About day 4, she started walking towards the door at daycare instead of running away from it when I drop her off. I don't know if this will be the answer, but I have to try. The vet also has her trying the DAP collar.

She found a way to escape the yard, so I have stopped working on leaving her unsupervised back there for the time being. I have a lot of work to cut back the neighbor's bushes before I can put a screen on the fence (wrought iron), and I'm making slow progress, just gave up and sprayed some roundup the other day.

Not much time to work on desensitizing at home, by the time we get home and we recover from the day, so I am just working on leaving her alone for short periods of time, moving the keys when I think about it. I will have about a month off between semesters, and will be able to hit this hard then.

For now, she is not hurting herself (though I do worry with all the collar grabs she is exposed to there), she is not hurting the house. I guess the only thing she is hurting is my pocket book for the time being. Still feeding in the crate - she loves her crate, just doesn't love being alone.


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#260375 - 11/12/12 05:23 PM Re: Separation Anxiety [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Wow, Lisa, I don't know what to say. All these challenges. Girl, I really do hope next year will make up for all this stuff that got dished out to you this year.

Poor Jazzy, UTI's are so not fun. I can't take Cipro. I had an allergic reaction to it a few years ago that left me with strong symptoms of a UTI but no UTI evidence medically. The doctors were baffled. Did an ultra sound inside and out without anything found. Yet the symptoms persisted for quite some time because of my reaction to CIPRO. I wonder if this is the same scenario for Jazzy. It took me over a year to completely recover from it because the doctors were clueless. I lost about 40 pounds in the process of recovering.

What helped me was liver support supplements, probiotics, watching acidity levels (ph balance) and believe it or not using vagisil wipes (they restore ph balance in that area).

Maybe ask the doc to switch antibiotic in case she is allergic to it?

As always, wishing for a mucho good things coming your way to make up for all this difficult challenges and of course perfect health for Jazzy
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#260376 - 11/12/12 05:33 PM Re: Separation Anxiety [Re: TimberWolf]
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Aww, poor Jazzy!! Nothing in life is ever easy is it? Funny the side effects medicines can have. I'm convinced the Clindamycin that Rosa was on caused her ED to flare up, and we still haven't gotten her back to her regular activity level. Sounds like Jazzy is headed back to normal though? Fingers crossed.
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#260412 - 11/13/12 04:19 AM Re: Separation Anxiety [Re: Good_Karma]
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hugging hugging Poor sweet Jazz and poor you. I so hope she comes back to her normal asap hugging
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#260428 - 11/13/12 08:44 AM Re: Separation Anxiety [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Good for you for tryibng St John's wort. It may be helping, or, just more time at daycare may be helping. Whatever it is, paws here are crossed that she improves. I don't blame you for trying to avoid drugs. Even if it ever comes to that, maybe 3 months of them and she's got a new emotional memory of how she feels when left alone. No matter what, we are all sending good thoughts for you and Jazzy! peacesign
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