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#261519 - 11/24/12 04:54 PM Re: Mast Cell Tumors [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Banshee...Banshee...Bansheee...what can I say.

BW done today.

CREA is back in normal range of 1.2.

Doc said that happens. The CREA will level off, body makes adjustments and the CREA will drop back down.

BUN was high but he wasn't concerned because she had just eaten.
All other values in range.

He said she was one of the oldest Boxer they had ever had. There was a 14 yr old once but that's it. Tough ole bird.

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#261537 - 11/24/12 05:59 PM Re: Mast Cell Tumors [Re: LifeAsMe]
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Continued good news smile

I have heard that about the CREA too, and in some instances, lowered can be loss of kidney function in some ways, but it sounds like everything else is within good norms, so great news!
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#261546 - 11/24/12 06:45 PM Re: Mast Cell Tumors [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Yes, I think so, Lisa. My understanding of what he said wasn't that the kidney's gained back their lost function but that the body compensates somehow for the decreased function and that levels off, or decreases, the CREA. Last years CREA was 2.1 so it's down almost a full point.

They had trouble getting blood. Tech said her BP was probably low.

Love this vet...he is a traditional vet...not holistic at all. But when we discussed pain and anti-inflammatory for possible arthritis, he said to try the Zeel before we tried anything else. He said that would probably be less hard on her kidneys than any medicine.

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#261551 - 11/24/12 06:58 PM Re: Mast Cell Tumors [Re: LifeAsMe]
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That makes sense. And good for the vet! I have found the "mix" of a traditional vet that welcomes holistic stuff to usually work well for my dogs too.
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#261557 - 11/24/12 08:40 PM Re: Mast Cell Tumors [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Thanks for the update - it is a good one in my opinion! smile penguin
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#265762 - 12/28/12 10:52 PM Re: Mast Cell Tumors [Re: Qyn]
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Has anyone had a senior that cries alot? Scott asked me if I thought she was in pain. But I don't think so. It seems she mostly does it right after he gets home and wants to eat. There are some times that she could be hurting and will lay there and cry. But she also gets "lost" at times as well so it could be part senility? I'm just not sure how to read this. Anyone have any opinions or experiences?

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#265775 - 12/29/12 03:51 AM Re: Mast Cell Tumors [Re: LifeAsMe]
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I hope Bonnie sees this as she has had great success with Cholodin. I tried it for Molly (and her fear issues) and I gave my bottle to a lady with an elderly Westie. She reports great changes in his senility.

Does she seem worse at night? One of my cats is senile and gets lost (inside only cat) and I leave a light on at night and sometimes a talkback radio on quietly. This seems to help her. Just an idea anyway.
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#265781 - 12/29/12 08:41 AM Re: Mast Cell Tumors [Re: bianca]
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You told me about this, didn't you?! And I put it on my list of things to do and it never got done.

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#265802 - 12/29/12 02:33 PM Re: Mast Cell Tumors [Re: LifeAsMe]
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I've heard that the crying can be part of cognitive dysfunction. I would try the cholodin.
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#266217 - 01/01/13 06:09 PM Re: Mast Cell Tumors [Re: MaxaLisa]
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I forgot I had a bottle of Geri-Form here. It has as much, if not more, than the Cholodin except the Inositol
Minerals:
Zinc 10 mg > Cholodin
Selenium 20 mcg = Cholodin
Vitamins and Others:
Choline 40 mg = Cholodin
Inositol 25 mg < Cholodin
Vitamin E 15 IU >
Niacinamide 10 mg >

D-Pantothenic acid 10 mg >
Thiamine mononitrate 2 mg >
Riboflavin 2 mg >
Pyridoxine hydrochloride 1 mg = Additional
Vitamin A acetate 1,000 IU = Additional
Vitamin K 0.3 mg = Additional
Vitamin B12 10 mcg > Cholodin
Vitamin D3 80 IU = Additiona

Missing B6
Missing DL-Methionine


Cholodin
Guaranteed Analysis Per Tablet:
Minerals:
Zinc 7.2mg, Selenium 0.02mg
Vitamins and other:
DL-Methionine 55 mg
Riboflavin 1.5 mg
Choline 40 mg
Thiamine 1.5 mg
Inositol 40 mg
Panthothenic Acid 1 mg
Niacinamide 5 mg
Vitamin B6 1 mg
Vitamin E 5 IU
Vitamin B12 2.0 mcg

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