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#25296 - 03/28/10 02:17 PM Re: perianal fistulas - scared for skye [Re: PositiveDog]
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Don't obsess too much, I know it's hard wink

If Skye were younger, then most likely she would have a different genetic link. Being her age, the genetics are just a bit different. But that's not useful info though, just a side note.

Max's PF first showed at 8.

Are Skye's stools always good?
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#25317 - 03/28/10 04:02 PM Re: perianal fistulas - scared for skye [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Bonnie, does Skye tolerate beef based supplements?
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#25402 - 03/28/10 07:55 PM Re: perianal fistulas - scared for skye [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Skye's stools are probably 99% good. She has soft stools rarely.

I don't know the last time I gave her anything with beef base, except for bones once in awhile - no problems with those.
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#25407 - 03/28/10 08:07 PM Re: perianal fistulas - scared for skye [Re: PositiveDog]
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I was asking about the digestive system because so many of these PF dogs have food issues. Forgot that I think you recently changed foods.

If I were to give one supplement to try to modulate the immune system, I would try this particular one: http://www.vitacost.com/Jarrow-Formulas-True-CMO-Cetyl-Myristoleate

It's beef-based, so I can't use it on Max frown , but it has helped Indy quite a bit.

You've got a lot on your plate right now, but I thought I'd throw this out there.
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#25413 - 03/28/10 08:18 PM Re: perianal fistulas - scared for skye [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Buddy and Skye were on EVO for some time. I wanted to try something different and after a couple of trials, ended up with Orijen 6 Fish.

I am glad now due to what I have learned here and other sources about single protein sources not eaten before and dealing with pf.

Both dogs like it and are doing well on it.

The supplement you listed is for the immune system, not joints?
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#25416 - 03/28/10 08:28 PM Re: perianal fistulas - scared for skye [Re: PositiveDog]
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Good about the food thumbup

The CMO is actually great for the immune system & joints...it is one of the very few supplements that is good for BOTH osteoarthritis AND rheumatoid arthritis, which is what caught my eye when I first started using it. Indy's joint issues are mostly categorized as polyarthritis, which is much like RA. Of course induced by her lyme vaccine though.

There's a thread on the old board about folks that have used CM for joint issues for their dogs - I think it's under supplements in the health sticky.
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#26358 - 03/31/10 04:35 AM Re: perianal fistulas - scared for skye [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Thinking of you and Skye hugging
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#26588 - 03/31/10 07:41 PM Re: perianal fistulas - scared for skye [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Thank you! Sorry I did not post last night - I was helping to evaluate some dogs in the current therapy animal class and got home late.

We were back at the vet for follow up last night. I am not sure about this, but I guess time will tell. thinking

After I told her the history of the break outs, infection and swelling the past 2 weeks, we both agreed that the sores seemed to have peaked and now were getting a little better. Skye is not as swollen on the bottom of the anal area, but the top is still pretty puffy, red and fiery looking. She almost looks as if the surface of the skin was just shaved off.

You can see that the skin is trying to heal over and there is no infection showing now.

Here Dr talked again about wanting to stay away cyclo if at all possible. She took her off the cipro since the area looks painful, but clean. She wants to see if Skye's lethargy is from the cipro. She sleeps so much and only plays with Buddy in short bursts.

In two weeks with no changes in diet, Skye gained 5 pounds. blush

She put her on prednisone, but just 2X a day for three days. She also asked me to keep using the tacralimus 2X a day, not just one.

But - she is going to do more research to see what she finds about the tac being very harsh and people being advised to go once a day on it.

So right now, just pred and the ointment. She is scheduled back in two weeks but said to call if I saw any sign of infection or negative changes in Skye.

She likes the supplements she is on (joint compound and hyaluronic acid.)

She also mentioned the orajel for pain, or a spray like people use for sunburn to soothe her. So more good ideas here.

I would like to use a more natural anti-inflammatory after the pred is done.

Does this all sound OK?
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#26665 - 03/31/10 11:01 PM Re: perianal fistulas - scared for skye [Re: PositiveDog]
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Originally Posted By: PositiveDog
I love to see the 'Sean' updates - he is a special dog and Marlene takes such great care of him.


Aw shucks, Lisa and you are 2 of my biggest fans. blush Bonnie, I'm so sorry to hear that Skye is having this problem. My heart goes out to you. If for any reason your vet decides to prescribe cyclo. and/or ketoconazole please don't hesitate to contact me. Hugs and healing thoughts to Skye. hug
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#26740 - 04/01/10 03:45 AM Re: perianal fistulas - scared for skye [Re: PositiveDog]
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Originally Posted By: PositiveDog
Thank you! Sorry I did not post last night - I was helping to evaluate some dogs in the current therapy animal class and got home late.


I figured that you had a life, and stuff to do wink I knew you would update when you were ready or had time!



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After I told her the history of the break outs, infection and swelling the past 2 weeks, we both agreed that the sores seemed to have peaked and now were getting a little better. .....

You can see that the skin is trying to heal over and there is no infection showing now.


Super news that there is improvement. Watch carefully, if you see any backsliding, back on the antibiotics!

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Here Dr talked again about wanting to stay away cyclo if at all possible. She took her off the cipro since the area looks painful, but clean. She wants to see if Skye's lethargy is from the cipro. She sleeps so much and only plays with Buddy in short bursts.

She put her on prednisone, but just 2X a day for three days.


Hmmm, wonder if it is from the Cipro? That is a pretty high powered antibiotic.

On the PF list, seems that some dogs respond to pred, some to cyclo, some need both.

Interesting the 2x per day for 3 days, but then what until your next check up? Nothing for the remaining two weeks, other than the protopic? That makes me nervous. The rule I wish I would have followed, is don't change anything as long as the PF is improving. I understand changing the Cipro if it's causing lethargy, but nothing other than the tac after three days????

Curious, what dosage is being used for the pred?

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In two weeks with no changes in diet, Skye gained 5 pounds. blush


Wonder if there was some SIBO and the weight gain was from the probiotics? Max gained weight with the antibiotics, moreso recently, maybe from food change, maybe other things. If Skye gained from the antibiotics, then I would consider treating with abx longer....of course I'm a big fan of doxy for both SIBO and the PF here.


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But - she is going to do more research to see what she finds about the tac being very harsh and people being advised to go once a day on it.


She probably won't find anything, it's one of those client experience things. I don't know how many dogs it's true for though.


I'm hoping that you made a typo about the pred for three days, and then nothing?????


Edited by MaxaLisa (04/01/10 03:47 AM)
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