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#250639 - 09/02/12 08:41 AM Re: Miss Moo is off her rocker :( [Re: Good_Karma]
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I'm sorry that you're going through so much right now, Bianca. hugging Mentioning the other funny patch to her vet is a good thing. Some types of seizures do indeed cause anxiety. A UTI can cause behavioral scaredy-dog stuff before symptoms show, so I'm hoping you can catch a urine sample from her. Thyroid, eyes, hmm.. I'm hoping something "jumps out at" the vet so that he can diagnose this quickly for The Moo. She's got to be the sweetest, dearest lovey out there, and this behavior seems so out of character for her. Bianca, I continue to send positive thoughts and energy for both Molly Moo and you, too. bloomrose
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#250643 - 09/02/12 08:57 AM Re: Miss Moo is off her rocker :( [Re: Braverhund]
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When I need a urine sample I wait until my dog is out for the first time in the morning and rally has to go. I take a freshly washed pill bottle and a clean new trash bag out with me. When they squat, I just slide the bag under them.

Always catches plenty and I just dip my container and I'm good to go. Much easier for me than trying to put long handled containers under them in just the right spot.

Good luck with that!
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#250646 - 09/02/12 09:43 AM Re: Miss Moo is off her rocker :( [Re: PositiveDog]
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One more person hoping that you find the cause and the cure of Miss Moo's mood and you can take a deep breath sometime.

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#250657 - 09/02/12 11:58 AM Re: Miss Moo is off her rocker :( [Re: Mary Jane]
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I'm sorry to hear about Molly's strange behavior. I just wanted to mention that Heidi has acted really weird several times over the five years we've had her (scared, clingy, shaking, hiding, acting as though she is listening for something, etc.) For example:

http://germanshepherdhome.net/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/198006/Heidi_is_acting_really_weird_a

http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum/general-behavior/105045-heidi-really-acting-weird-today.html

http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum/general-behavior/109986-shes-acting-weird-again.html

I used to think that it had to do with earthquakes or hearing something in the distance that we couldn't hear. In every case, she got over it in a couple of days and I never did figure out what it was!

Best of luck to you in getting to the bottom of this. It's hard to see your dog so scared and upset, and not knowing why. hugging
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#250661 - 09/02/12 12:19 PM Re: Miss Moo is off her rocker :( [Re: Karin]
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If there isn't a uti, other things to consider are thyroid and infection - I know that tick dieases aren't common over there, but I do remember finding a lyme disease support group that thought they contracted it over there. Wonder if it was because of molly I went looking at one point.
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#250672 - 09/02/12 01:14 PM Re: Miss Moo is off her rocker :( [Re: MaxaLisa]
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hugging Hoping you can figure this out and that Miss Moo is feeling back to her usual self soon.
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#250736 - 09/03/12 02:17 AM Re: Miss Moo is off her rocker :( [Re: AngelJ]
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Thank you all hugging

Karin, has Heidi ever had an 'episode' like that again? Maybe Molly and Heidi are soul sisters!!!

Lisa, thank you. I have never found any ticks before but that's not to say it hasn't happened.

Just came back from the vet and he took blood - so will wait for results. He does not think Thyroid due to her condition but will test for it.

Her eyes appear fine (no specialist equipment here though).

I got a urine sample (thanks Bonnie!) but left it in the fridge so will drop it off tomorrow hammer

Her weight - oh my gosh she really is a fatty boomba! The first of July she was 27.5kg /60# and today 30.3kg/66# and she has been on restricted rations! He said she looks super healthy (shiny healthy coat and she hasn't had a bath in about 6 months) and only a tiny bit cuddly.

I think she needs to get back down to about 26kg to be nice and lean.

The only thing he could think of if it is not behavioural is lead poisoning. I asked how and he said the most common causes are a) swallowing a fishing sinker b) renovations on the house if it has lead based paint or c) car batteries.

Of all those, I guess she 'could' have found an old sinker in the yard but she is not the type to eat stones etc. If it was Coop I could imagine it.

Anywhoo, I have to wait until we get some results back but he was really stumped too. She was weird again this morning but not for long.
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#250760 - 09/03/12 10:37 AM Re: Miss Moo is off her rocker :( [Re: bianca]
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Has Wonka gone to his new home yet? Just wondering if that was the cause of the snarkiness. Maybe Wonka getting packed up to move, the episodes of kennel cough, Cooper going back and forwards to the vet, moving to the new house, renovations, upsets over Cooper's diagnosis, escaping to the neighbours etc has caused Molly to feel a little unsettled herself and not knowing who to take it out on or what she should be doing. She seems to be a sensitive dog and I can imagine even the fact of you having so much on your plate could effect her. Anyway, just another thought if there is no medical explanation for her behaviour. hugging

ETA: I just read that Wonka is moving on Tuesday so that answers that question. paw


Edited by Qyn (09/03/12 10:41 AM)
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#250776 - 09/03/12 01:09 PM Re: Miss Moo is off her rocker :( [Re: Qyn]
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A lot of thyroid stuff doesn't show in the coat until it' very very advanced. With her weight, I will hold out hope for something easy like thyroid. Of coure uti would be the easiest crossedfingers
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#250828 - 09/03/12 08:39 PM Re: Miss Moo is off her rocker :( [Re: bianca]
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Originally Posted By: bianca
Thank you all hugging

Karin, has Heidi ever had an 'episode' like that again? Maybe Molly and Heidi are soul sisters!!!


They sound like they are both very sensitive--especially to noises and storms! Yes, Heidi has had some episodes since. It doesn't happen too often, but I really think it's related to sounds that she hears. There are a quite a few people around here that set off firecrackers regularly (idiots!). I think that sometimes she hears things off in the distance that we can't hear.

In fact, last night we were at my in-laws' house and someone was setting of firecrackers in the distance and she was very scared (shaking, ears erect, looking worried...) and wanted to be up on the outdoor couch with us. My sister-in-law really didn't want her up there, but Heidi kept trying to jump up, so she put a towel on it and let her come up. When Heidi is scared, she wants to be as close as possible to us. After a while, she calmed down.

My in-laws were a little surprised that this big german shepherd was such a scaredy cat!
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