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#282877 - 05/19/13 12:26 PM Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, clostridium perfringens [Re: MaxaLisa]
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[quote=MaxaLisa, and expect her to feel better soon, and then we start all over with the taper plans, barring anything else cropping up. [/quote]

Gosh, I sure hope not!!! Enough of this!! Time for you two to get a major break.
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#282880 - 05/19/13 02:56 PM Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, clostridium perfringens [Re: TimberWolf]
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I second that!
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#282906 - 05/20/13 03:36 AM Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, clostridium perfringens [Re: MaxaLisa]
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I third this!
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#282985 - 05/20/13 08:25 PM Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, clostridium perfringens [Re: bianca]
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Good luck tomorrow. grouphug

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#283098 - 05/21/13 08:55 PM Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, clostridium perfringens [Re: m&j]
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How did it go?

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#283107 - 05/22/13 01:01 AM Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, clostridium perfringens [Re: m&j]
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Thanks for keeping tabs on us!!

The appointment was a big waste of time and money. I was pretty sure that this wasn't going to yield answers, but it also just further reminded me of the limitations of Western medicine, in addition to the dogmatic thinking that many are indoctrinated into. One thing I do like about the IMS (as opposed to this neuro) is that he has a pretty open mind.

She did recommend a behaviourist over at UC Davis, consults start at $300, and it's a long process, blah, blah, blah.....which would be a good idea if I thought that the anxiety really was all behavioural. This is her gut, and whatever is causing protein in her urine, concentrated urine, crystals, and also the abnormalities we're seeing on the bloodwork. Also whatever is causing her inability to keep the C Perf in check on its own.

We also had an appt with the holistic vet today, and are trying a new herbal for her digestion, particularly to give in the morning to see if that relieves some discomfort which may increase her anxiety.

There is a significant amount of gut inflammation that can be felt externally when she has no flagyl, so that will be the focus of trying to get her better.

We continue on!
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#283115 - 05/22/13 04:37 AM Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, clostridium perfringens [Re: MaxaLisa]
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I'm sorry that the first appointment went like that but pleased that the holistic vet has given you another option. Keeping everything crossed that this is the beginning of a happy, healthy Jazz hugging
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#283127 - 05/22/13 08:06 AM Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, clostridium perfringens [Re: bianca]
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There are gut neurological conditions, so it made a lot of sense for the IMS to refer you. I'm really sorry that the neurologist was unable or unwilling to think through Jazz' condition. That morning anxiety must be terribly painful, so if it can be alleviated, it will be a big deal.

Do you mind repeating whether Jazz has elevated IgA? I'm into IgA not for the GSD connection but, as you know, because it's active for gut and genital infections.

We all hope that things start looking up

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MJ

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#283130 - 05/22/13 09:14 AM Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, clostridium perfringens [Re: Mary Jane]
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It's so much harder not to have any answers..yet, there is evidence that something is wrong. Feels like walking around in a dark room desperately trying to find the light switch. This may be totally ridiculous, so forgive me for my ignorance, but what if you discontinue all supplements and meds....give it two weeks for everything to clear her system and see what happens? Again, this is probably a ridiculous suggestion.

The reason why I am suggesting this is that some of her symptoms are similar to what I experienced which started with a UTI. I took Cipro but when the prescribed allotment was gone, the symptoms were still the same and the urinalysis showed the protein, etc..plus I was shaking as well uncontrollably. The urinalysis results showed that it was not a bladder/kidney infection. It was the freakiest thing. They ran all sorts of tests including inside and outside ultrasounds and could not find anything wrong. I loaded up on supplements per advise of my naturalist doctor during that time and it got worse. When I discontinued the Cipro it continued getting worse to the point where I was in so much pain..especially at night and shaking all night long. I realized that the doctors were of no help (in this case) and I decided to discontinue everything.

I can't say that I noticed getting better immediately...it took at least a month when I noticed some difference. It took a year for all the symptoms to completely clear. Then I started adding some supplements again such as Probiotics and Enzymes but very moderately. I am fine now. I just can't help to see similarities here but I may be wrong. I hope my comment doesn't offend. I am just trying to help. Hugs.


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#283167 - 05/22/13 02:04 PM Re: Jazzy Jazz Jazmine, clostridium perfringens [Re: TimberWolf]
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OK, so let's go with the holistic vet's plan........let's let him/her work their magic to get that gut inflammation down.

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