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#283746 - 05/27/13 02:07 PM Re: Trifexis :( [Re: DancingCavy]
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Thank you, Arycrest and DancingCavy - you expressed much better what I was trying to say.

I DO live in an area of high incidence of heartworms, deer ticks, fleas and other parasites. I made a choice due to seeing the results of what happens without protection.

When reactions are bad they are horribly bad - but the percentages are small.

Again - you have to make a choice. shrug
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#283748 - 05/27/13 02:21 PM Re: Trifexis :( [Re: PositiveDog]
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Bonnie, I wasn't directing my last comments at you, just to be clear!!

Gayle, about the popularity and no problems, these things take time to play out. A few isolated cases here and there, then patterns *may* start arising, then consumer get more active, etc. It took the deaths of a lot of dogs from rimadyl before they did anything, and even now you don't see some vets following that protocol.

I fully expected comfortis to be the first one with major problems, because it does have reports of seizures in some dogs, when I looked quitte awhile ago. We are combining some very powerful insecticides and putting them on and in our dogs. It took me *years* before I realized that indy was reacting to frontline top spot (only one chemical!). I wondered why she always got worse in summer frown But it was a slow and delayed reaction.
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#283763 - 05/27/13 05:08 PM Re: Trifexis :( [Re: MaxaLisa]
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No problems, Lisa. I did not take the comment personally. In fact I agree that in some areas these products may be pushed and not even necessary.

I also remember when people did not believe me years ago when I said my dog went into liver failure due to Rimadyl. I had to push my vet (no longer my vet) to do blood work first and she still almost died. teary Now, hopefully vets are doing more complete work ups and follow up and the owners are listening.

We all need to know the good and the bad or we can't make our choice.

I think that when my dogs are no longer doing therapy work I will stop using flea and tick products, other than something like Ark Naturals Flea Flicker, Tick Kicker.

As far as heart worm medications - that is scarier. When do you stop? I am puzzling that now with Buddy 13. thinking
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#283769 - 05/27/13 05:26 PM Re: Trifexis :( [Re: PositiveDog]
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I use plain Heartgard, nothing else, and I dose as minimally as I can (watch the weather, give every 45 days, etc.).
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#283772 - 05/27/13 05:28 PM Re: Trifexis :( [Re: PositiveDog]
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Originally Posted By: PositiveDog
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As far as heart worm medications - that is scarier. When do you stop? I am puzzling that now with Buddy 13. thinking
FWIW I've never stopped giving any of the senior Hooligans HW meds (they get it 12 months a year). I was happy to find the Interceptor Spectrum which I ordered a few weeks ago and am putting all three Hooligans on it. I'll still give Bruiser and Faith Comfortis if/when they need it ... but am happier to only give it on an as needed basis.
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#283781 - 05/27/13 08:03 PM Re: Trifexis :( [Re: arycrest]
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Bonnie, I tripped over this the other day when looking for something else, about Rimadyl and Labs: http://srdogs.com/Pages/rimadylfr.html

I have never stopped HW meds. But I also have never given combination meds. I've either used regular Heartguard, and then I switched to Interceptor at 1/5th the regular dose, which only treats HW and not anything else.

So, I guess the question for me is about a regular deworming schedule, since my dogs have never been on meds that would regularly deworm. I never even ran annual fecals unless there were issues. However, with Jazz here and daycare requirements, I will do the annual fecal, and deworm if necessary. In theory, if the dog is on a monthly deworming, that's not necessary, but there is some question of whether that actually builds resistance. And there is some questions about the symbiotic relationship between some of these parasites and good health. The answers seem to get murkier????
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#285260 - 06/10/13 09:43 PM Re: Trifexis :( [Re: MaxaLisa]
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I went out looking and found more and more dogs that are having problems with trifexis, sometimes after one or two doses. I did the same thing after comfortis had come out, and I certainly did not find the quantity that I am seeing here. It's pretty much convinced me never to use it, and also to recommend against it.

More...
https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=233950610012938&id=110886408938194
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#289496 - 07/18/13 01:21 AM Trifexis Adverse Events
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Looks like a lawyer is starting to look into this:
http://www.protectingtheconsumer.com/trifexis-flea-medication.php
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#289502 - 07/18/13 06:50 AM Re: Trifexis Adverse Events [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Never had a problem with this and have been using it for 3 years now.
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#289511 - 07/18/13 08:52 AM Re: Trifexis Adverse Events [Re: Kayos]
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Interesting. I know my vet didn't want to use it on Ghost because it was too new and she didn't trust it even though the practice we both work at was trying VERY hard to push the product. I'm so VERY GLAD she didn't and preferred to stick with products she knew and trusted with my boy.
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