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#288581 - 07/08/13 03:37 PM Re: Cooper - help needed please (stomach issue) [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Originally Posted By: MaxaLisa
There was someone on the old forum that had the bile vomit thing, an probiotics took care of it.


I haven't tried probiotics for Mars but he has vomited bile in the evening and refused to eat the midday snack we left him, so I turned to Ruth's slippery elm. He loves it and there is a one-to-one relationship (when I'm around) SE = no vomiting, no SE = vomiting.

I hope your black puppy is better smile

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#288588 - 07/08/13 04:02 PM Re: Cooper - help needed please (stomach issue) [Re: Mary Jane]
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Oh yes, great idea! Slippery elm (if there are no elm allergies!), and/or l-glutamine. Marshmallow if slippery elm I not tolerated.

(Eta: The SE will help treat the assaulted gut, but may not treat the underlying cause, o I would firat note response to probiotics. )


Edited by MaxaLisa (07/08/13 04:04 PM)
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#288592 - 07/08/13 04:21 PM Re: Cooper - help needed please (stomach issue) [Re: MaxaLisa]
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I am using a really good prebiotic/digestive supplement made by InClover called Optagest. It has been very helpful for both Rafi and Kailor. Also, Rafi had terrible digestive problems when I adopted him and I started him on Honest Kitchen's Perfect Form and that has also been helpful for him.
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#288598 - 07/08/13 05:04 PM Re: Cooper - help needed please (stomach issue) [Re: BowWowMeow]
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I am no help but wishing Cooper the very best!
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#288602 - 07/08/13 05:09 PM Re: Cooper - help needed please (stomach issue) [Re: bianca]
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The bile wouldn't have be concerned really and the mucosy poop, I'd give it a little while, maybe he just ate something you didn't see or something that irritated his stomach.

Is the current bag of food new? Any new raw ingredients or a bone he usually doesn't have but did? Mom or Dad sneak him some tid bits?
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#288621 - 07/08/13 08:30 PM Re: Cooper - help needed please (stomach issue) [Re: Natalie559]
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We went thru this for the first 3 years with Siena.

Our success came in relatively this order (making sure not to do anything too fast).
Metocloperamide /Reglyn once daily before breakfast. This is specific to treat vomit and regurgitation. With meds happens 3-4 x a year, without, it's a regular occurance.
Slippery elm at each meal.
Probiotics (we tried petDophilus originally).
B12 injection monthly (low b12 showed in bloodwork and is indicative of SIBO.
TYLAN was the main key to our success. Without it, she gets HGE and ends up sick, very fast. So after initial dosing, she gets one a day with food in am (and probiotics in other meal).

She also has an allergy to any poultry:bird and eats beef or buffalo as protein source.

That's my take on it. Best of luck. Can be hair pulling for sure.
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#288638 - 07/09/13 04:51 AM Re: Cooper - help needed please (stomach issue) [Re: DianaB]
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Thank you all so very much for your responses hugging

LAM: The Canidae is made in the USA. The bag is a week old and Molly has not had any problems. It smells and looks the same as previous bags (we go through 1 a month).

The raw they both get is pretty much just a topping on the kibble and that hasn't changed - human grade meat. No bones for a few weeks and Ma and Pa do give tidbits but sod all really and they are aware of the big no, no's.

SO how long should I give just the probiotics before I trial the next step? He had 1 last night and just now.

Again last night and this morning his poop was fine and yet on our morning walk it was icky again frown

I am just unsure whether this is an oddity or now a more serious ongoing issue.

Thank you all again so very much hugging
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#288646 - 07/09/13 08:47 AM Re: Cooper - help needed please (stomach issue) [Re: bianca]
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I find that sometimes my dogs will have great poos first thing in the morning and as the day preogresses will have a gooier one. Like Havoc's this morning on our walk.

I sometimes think the exercise moves the bowels along faster so the poop is not as formed as there is more water in it. Just my take after watching Havoc have digestive issues off and on for 6 years. I tend to fixate on his elimination habits and really, he is fine and this is normal for him. Mayhem will also do this and she has never had a problem. Kayos does not do this and has also never had digestive problems unless she eats soemthing she should not eat.

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#288652 - 07/09/13 09:55 AM Re: Cooper - help needed please (stomach issue) [Re: bianca]
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If the bag of food is only 1 week old and the problem other than bile started within that time I would go get another bag of food and feed that noting if you see a difference. Maybe check to make sure new bag is not from same lot?

Another thing you could do is to homecook chicken and rice, this should make everything better and if it is better then you go back to the food and he's messed up again you would know it's the food or something in the food that's not agreeing with him. I would do the homecooked bland diet for about 1 week then slowly reintroduce the kibble.
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#288654 - 07/09/13 10:20 AM Re: Cooper - help needed please (stomach issue) [Re: Natalie559]
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Our bag of food smelled fine and was not old either. I can't say it was the food, but I can say that since we switched there has been no vomiting, diarrhea or excessive gas.

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