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#300566 - 11/26/13 06:17 AM Re: Is Your Veterinarian Being Honest w/You--ABC News [Re: Michelle]
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I LOVE this post! Thank you, Kris for sharing it!
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#300593 - 11/26/13 10:10 AM Re: Is Your Veterinarian Being Honest w/You--ABC News [Re: Michelle]
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Originally Posted By: Michelle


Unfortunately that is not possible, I lost Kit last Oct to Cancer, and my mom lost her black lab couple months before. frown I will definitely make sure that it does not happen again, never will I just listen to a Vet and let them do whatever because they said it is what is best, I will do my research and be informed!
So sorry to hear that, I lost my Meadow to the mast cell cancer & he's the reason The Rabies Challenge Fund exists.
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#300594 - 11/26/13 10:11 AM Re: Is Your Veterinarian Being Honest w/You--ABC News [Re: FurKids]
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Originally Posted By: FurKids
I LOVE this post! Thank you, Kris for sharing it!
You're very welcome!
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#300643 - 11/26/13 08:44 PM Re: Is Your Veterinarian Being Honest w/You--ABC News [Re: Kris L. Christin]
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Great post, just one more reason why each and every pet owner should be informed and do their research 'before' they walk in the door at the vet.
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#300645 - 11/26/13 08:53 PM Re: Is Your Veterinarian Being Honest w/You--ABC News [Re: Kris L. Christin]
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So, it seems the veterinary community is pretty upset with this report. I was just able to watch it. Unfortunately, particularly in many of these corporate places, and also other places, the upsale exists frown Indy's first vet was a vet like this, and he was in private practice; he was horrible and I didn't know better - learned the hard way. I think that most of us more experienced dog owners choose vets where we don't have to deal with this issue. The report does say that it isn't representative of the majority of vets, and that message may get lost.

Of course, the issue on the vaccines is huge and extremely valid, and deserves any and all the exposure that it can get.
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#300668 - 11/27/13 12:43 AM Re: Is Your Veterinarian Being Honest w/You--ABC News [Re: MaxaLisa]
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It seems to me, that many of the best owners out there, the ones that take the pup to the vet and follow through with everything, and go the extra mile to make sure they are doing the best thing for their dogs, well a lot of these owners tend to have a lot of problems with their dogs.

I know a lot of issues have a genetic component. But sometimes I wonder how much of a component that preventative medicine, vaccines and pesticides actually cause. The thing is, the owners are doing their very best for these dogs, and the veterinarian oath to do no harm, well, I really do not think they think they are doing harm. I wish more were open to consider it as a possibility though.

There are a lot of factors that are different these days that 20 or 30 years ago, and the life spans of dogs in general seem to be going down not up. You would think with all the excellent foods out there, and the elimination of a lot of diseases, that our dogs would be living longer and healthier lives. I don't see that happening though. Whether it is a more aggressive approach to pests, or an aggressive push to spay/neuter as early as possible, or over-vaccination, or even putting a dog under repeatedly for unnecessary dental work or toenail clipping.

I don't know, but people really do not want to deny a pup or dog the very best in vet care, and usually that means to do everything the vet recommends. Some, maybe most vets are very conscientious and do not use this power that they have to soak people for as much as they can. Maybe there are some of these out there. But, I think for the most part, the vets truly believe that the preventatives and the vaccines are overall safe, and the stuff they are recommending is in the dogs' best interests.

I think if the vets were just scoundrels, this would be a lot easier to manage. The AVMA could crack down on the scoundrels. Trying to chance protocols and move toward a less is more attitude might be something that is simply too difficult for some vets to even consider.
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#300722 - 11/27/13 06:52 PM Re: Is Your Veterinarian Being Honest w/You--ABC News [Re: Selzer]
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thank goodness I have vets that do not push vacs, atleast with me:)

I try to be 'informed', and my vets are very open to anything I want or dont want to pump into my dogs.

I have to say, I haven't done vacs on my dogs in years..Rabies yes, it's law here. Nothing else. 3 of my gsd's lived until almost 14 years of age, one 9, (spondylosis), I have two aussies right now, who are 14 and 13, Masi(gsd)
is just a 'pup' at 5. While good genes may play a role in the longevity I've been blessed with, I honestly think its the lack of "pumping" stuff into them as well. I don't use tick/flea stuff, I haven't seen a flea in years.

I can't say I've had any long lasting illnesses, never had a dog with HD or ED.

I can truly say I appreciate my vets:)
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#300723 - 11/27/13 07:00 PM Re: Is Your Veterinarian Being Honest w/You--ABC News [Re: JakodaCD OA]
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Lol, I thought about this thread as I was on hold today and the recording was talking about the importance of dentals and that most dogs by the age of 3 have evidence of peridontal disease....
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#300726 - 11/27/13 07:56 PM Re: Is Your Veterinarian Being Honest w/You--ABC News [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Originally Posted By: MaxaLisa
Lol, I thought about this thread as I was on hold today and the recording was talking about the importance of dentals and that most dogs by the age of 3 have evidence of peridontal disease....
Wow.
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#300739 - 11/28/13 12:03 AM Re: Is Your Veterinarian Being Honest w/You--ABC News [Re: Kris L. Christin]
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Originally Posted By: Kris L. Christin
Originally Posted By: MaxaLisa
Lol, I thought about this thread as I was on hold today and the recording was talking about the importance of dentals and that most dogs by the age of 3 have evidence of peridontal disease....
Wow.

Yes, very timely I guess.

I frequent two VCA clinics, both were not-VCA when I first went to them. At the bottom of every receipt, there is a list of all possible vaccines and when the dog should have them. At the specialty clinic, they have some listed as not recommended at least. At the clinic where I heard this recording, they recommended all the vaccines be discussed with the vet. It sickens me actually.

The older vets do what they feel is best I'm sure, but they are paid partially based on the amount of paid services that they bring in, which I wish this report would have gone into. I have to wonder, vets straight of school, starting here as a first job, what this teaches many of them. I think some will have a good compass regardless, but a lot don't, and many are impressionable coming straight out.

I envy places that have vet practice choice that aren't corporate owned - we've lost the battle here. I hope someday to see this turn around.
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