German Shepherd Home
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#344028 - 04/11/17 01:50 PM Training Mistakes?
Codmaster Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 05/14/10
Posts: 1615
Loc: CA
Likes: 50
I was thinking, after reflecting on the training that we did with Baron (our 8yo GSD who passed just about a year ago) about ALL of the mistakes that I have made in working with him.

Thought it might be a good topic for discussion here - maybe just to see if I might be in a majority or minority among trainers.

Anyway, among some of the major mistakes I have made were the following.

1. Set my expectations for him too low - regarding his potential performance

2. Tried a number of different instructors all with different approaches (Confusing to both dog and me!)

3. Hope this doesn't upset anyone but I failed to adopt my training approach to my dogs temperament and personality (Very strong!).
We tried a Positive Only approach through local Dog Obedience training organization classes and private training and found, only after some time, that this approach did not work with him for his bit of dog aggression with a few dogs. A different approach with a different trainer finally did work very well.

4. Confused a specific training technique we were using with our goal of training too often.

5. Did not have specific training "Goals" and "Plan" on how to get there.

6. Did not make enough use of realistic "Proofing" my guys behavior.

7. Often seemed to train for "Trials" and not "Real Life" even though they should not be separated.

8. ETC. ETC. Many more - but now lets see what others think.

Looking back on the last year (or more!) of dog training, what might you change to improve your results? Anyone?

Top Likes: 0 
#344029 - 04/11/17 03:44 PM Re: Training Mistakes? [Re: Codmaster]
middleofnowhere Online   content
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 02/22/10
Posts: 2741
Likes: 186
Just an off the top of my pointy head observation - each dog has taught me a lot - that's the legacy they leave for the next dog. Someday I may know some of it...

But as to specifically training:

First dog: backing off obedience work due to time and peer pressure

Second dog: she was mellow. I did nothing

Third dog: she loved training but I did not find anyone offering anything beyond basic obedience & at that time mutts could not compete in AKC obedience

Fourth dog: he loved training. My mistake was not using his full potential (life as in work got in the way)

Fifth dog: letting an instructor use force once (and only once damn it)to encourage engagement with dumbbell

Sixth dog: letting health issues get in the way -

Seventh dog: no training done/needed therefore no handler errors

Eighth dog: major move = change in training technique

Ninth dog: handler impatience (she didn't figure anything out until she was 2 and then it was "I got this." - there were many times in the first two years that I figured we would never get her BH

Top Likes: 0 
#344035 - 04/11/17 06:48 PM Re: Training Mistakes? [Re: middleofnowhere]
Codmaster Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 05/14/10
Posts: 1615
Loc: CA
Likes: 50
Amazing how much we as trainers can learn from each dog!

Interesting comment about "force" and esp. with Dumbbell. we had a couple of different trainers involved when we trained Baron with the DB. one was PO approach and one used a small level to get him to "Take it" in the beginning. A third, nationally known trainer in a seminar I attended use a variation of the oft used "Ear Pinch" that worked very well with demo dogs in seminar - shye used an "Ear rub" no pinch or real force - just rubbed ear with finger and thumb till dog opened their mouth, popped DB in and out quick and HUGE praise - worked very well! I wouldn't call it really force - just "irritating the dog to open his mouth to get DB in in the beginning to give him the idea.

I think it is great that "Mutts" can now officially compete - Great Idea, AKC!

Top Likes: 0 

Monthly Photo Contest Winner
Newest Topics
Confirmed Chest Mass (Kamahi)
by weplaytowin
06/17/18 06:06 PM
5 month old American Showline walking funny
by Duality
06/14/18 03:55 PM
"It just imploded Mom"
by Shilohsmom
06/08/18 08:14 PM
Mars
by Mary Jane
06/07/18 07:16 PM
Bennie, the 12 1/2% GSD and friends
by PositiveDog
06/05/18 10:43 PM
June 2018 Photo Contest Entries
by Wisc.Tiger_Val
06/02/18 10:36 AM
Comments for the June 2018 Photo Contest
by Wisc.Tiger_Val
06/02/18 10:32 AM
Canít Gain Weight
by beaurowdy17
06/01/18 07:21 PM
Kody bear
by Shilohsmom
05/30/18 10:12 PM
Jenna
by Selzer
05/28/18 02:36 AM
Help Support the Forum
New Topics - Other Animals & Chat
To all pet owners
by Shilohsmom
06/10/18 04:21 PM
We've lost Arycest
by Islandgsds
06/06/18 01:05 PM
help weed killer questions
by jlstudent1970
04/26/18 02:45 PM
How are You?
by Shilohsmom
03/22/18 07:40 PM
Word Association Game - Part 2
by Wisc.Tiger_Val
01/21/13 10:27 AM
Who's Online
1 registered (Mary Jane), 54 Guests and 3 Spiders online.
Affiliate Link
Newest Members
tajinder, Duality, sstepanek, Hamza, beaurowdy17, Kat Stanton, Pirates Lair, Majorís Mom, Ben1984, Kprice
2900 Registered Users
Forum Stats
2900 Members
100 Forums
20458 Topics
326114 Posts

Max Online: 137 @ 01/07/16 07:28 PM
Amazon Prooducts