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#344074 - 04/16/17 10:42 PM Herm Sprenger Problem
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Just a warning. The Herm Sprenger suddenly fell off my GSD again today on a busy street. The first time it happened - sure, operator error. The 2nd time... I swear it was right... again - benefit of doubt (something I did wrong.

3rd fail.. no way. So I ordered the HS quick release version. I only use the HS with her when we're starting out on the busy streets again after winter as she needs initial reminders. Today, I took her out on the HS with regular collar to convert. She was 1 day on the HS and doing fine.

HS dropped in the middle of the busy street. Thank God I had her license collar backup on. I heard a "chunk metal" hit the ground and automatically reached down to grab and clip the leash to the regular collar.

Somethings wrong with the HS. It was exactly in proper place and active when it dropped, I was extremely aware of placement this time and in fact was looking at her neck for placement when it just popped off before my eyes. I don't get it - unless long hair around the top neck line is, when it moves just right - causing a link fail. But! I was looking right at the upper neck area when it popped and it was from the 3rd link down on one side! I don't get it. Any similar experiences? Thanks:)

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#344075 - 04/16/17 11:18 PM Re: Herm Sprenger Problem [Re: RaisingBaby]
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I guess, unless I hear any different that I'll just put her on an old fashioned choke for the next couple of weeks until I can rely on just a regular collar for handling. The HS quick release has not failed me, just the regular. Took the regular because I couldn't locate the quick release from last spring.

Just a strange experience for me with the HS regular. I've read tons of posts and not heard of it before and for the life of me, can't figure out how it is just releasing and dropping mid walk with no pressure or relaxation applied. So weird!

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#344078 - 04/17/17 01:28 AM Re: Herm Sprenger Problem [Re: RaisingBaby]
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I'd say that the link was compromised, as in tweeked too hard. I don't use the regular ones any more because my grip strength is a far cry from what it used to be (the ravages of time....) If you are worried about the collar failing, use two collars and a coupler to the second one from the lead.

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#344079 - 04/17/17 03:09 AM Re: Herm Sprenger Problem [Re: middleofnowhere]
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most folks who use a prong collar also use a "Safety" link - a little connector line between the prong and a regular collar (buckle usually) so that when (Not if) the prong opens you still have a leash on your dog. i had a Herm collar come loose three times in a couple years of use on a daily basis and was glad I had the safety collar hooked up (Last two times anyway!!!!).

just a thought!

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#344081 - 04/17/17 10:15 AM Re: Herm Sprenger Problem [Re: Codmaster]
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I was told by my trainer to also hook choker collar so that if prong came loose you still have a collar on your dog.
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#344089 - 04/17/17 10:27 PM Re: Herm Sprenger Problem [Re: luvmysheps]
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back up your prong with a slip collar like this one
http://leerburg.com/885.htm
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#344098 - 04/19/17 09:26 AM Re: Herm Sprenger Problem [Re: zyp]
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You can also buy a Herm Sprenger prong with a fabric cover, which holds it all together safely.
This us what we use here, with great success. The collar goes easily on and off with a quick release. You can Google and find this. Best success! smile
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#344128 - 04/22/17 02:13 AM Re: Herm Sprenger Problem [Re: luvmysheps]
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Thank you. I think that's the answer. She freaks and tries to strangle herself with the fabric slip collar (always has) but is fine with the metal one so I'll use that with the connector.

It's just that no matter what you use for a backup and connector - there will be a decreased response on the quick pop function of the HS. Been there, done that with several back up collars on connectors. The regular old fashioned metal link choke collar has the most minimal though. Thanks:)

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#344140 - 04/23/17 01:40 PM Re: Herm Sprenger Problem [Re: RaisingBaby]
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I'd just go with the regular flat collar as a back up to the prong if I were having problems with it.

Anyway, glad you have found a solution.

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#344176 - 04/25/17 09:15 PM Re: Herm Sprenger Problem [Re: RaisingBaby]
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Originally Posted By: RaisingBaby
Thank you. I think that's the answer. She freaks and tries to strangle herself with the fabric slip collar (always has) but is fine with the metal one so I'll use that with the connector.

It's just that no matter what you use for a backup and connector - there will be a decreased response on the quick pop function of the HS. Been there, done that with several back up collars on connectors. The regular old fashioned metal link choke collar has the most minimal though. Thanks:)


We used a large link Fursaver (like a regular slip collar but with BIG links) as a backup to the prong - worked great and no impact whatsoever to the correction with the prong when needed. Probably doesn't make a big difference what you use as a backup to prong as long as the connection piece is long enough.

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