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#346376 - 12/19/17 10:26 AM Neilla's Journey
Wisc.Tiger_Val Offline
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This is one of the pictures I saw that made me want to go research more about her. We need a dog that is cat friendly.


I contacted Emily Garza with Illinois Doberman Rescue via Facebook and asked if I was within their adoption area. We were so I filled out the application. A few days later we were approved and set a date to go meet (Neibla) now called Neilla.

A Great Pyrenees was on my list of dogs that we would want.

Meet Neilla and she was a typical big puppy that was short on training, but long on brains. She maybe almost 3 years old, but her actions are very much like a puppy that needs structure and love.

Neilla rides in the vehicle like a champ.


I think I would like to come and ride in the front seat with you. I needz lotsa love and hugs.


OK, that is the way things are going to be Iz will just tend likes youz no there eziber.
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Fuzzybutt the cat.
Neilla the Big White puppy.

RIP Cheyenne - AKA: Digger, CheyChey Girl, Cheyenne Large and In charge. 2/16/02 - 2/27/16
RIP DeeDee - AKA: DD Poo, Little Bit, Binky (part of the Binky and Booboo team) 6/23/02-6/20/11
RIP Lakota - AKA: Bubba, Big Boy, BooBoo (the other part of the Binky and BooBoo team). 1/19/03-9/19/2011
RIP Raya - AKA: Raz-a, Ray a Sunshine, RayBestos, the little one, Silly Girl. 9/21/05 - 6/27/14

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#346377 - 12/19/17 10:45 AM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val]
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Making huge progress on Neilla's digestive issues. Starting to cut back on the Beef and Oatmeal and upping the kibble. As you know most of us here are somewhat obsessed with dog poop. Finally she has firm formed poop. More groceries are helping her become more settled.

Had an incident with my mom on Sunday that made me question what happened. Neilla seemed to like my mom we did treats and pets. When we were getting ready to take my mom home, my mom was giving her some pets and turned to head towards the door and Neilla went off barking and lunged at my mom. Luckily Bill was right there and grabbed Neilla's collar or my mom would have been on the floor. Neilla's teeth made contact with my mom's arm. I was very concerned because of the outburst.

Yesterday I got a truer picture of what happened. Neilla did almost the exact same thing to Bill. Neilla is pushy and tries to dominate others, not me, but she didn't want Bill to leave she wanted him to stay and pet her more. I had tried to tell Bill that she was pushy and not to give her to much freedom. She needs rules and structure right now, no more getting down on the floor with her until she understands that humans are higher ranked that she is. Neilla's room is the Laundry Room and it has the door to the garage, I come and go out of the Laundry Room and she has no problems with me, moves out of my way I can either give her a few pets or just walk past and no problems, so I need to get Bill to make her earn her attention not demand it. She is sneaky with her demanding, but I see it.

We are still a work in progress with Neilla and Fuzzybutt. Fuzzy is starting to feel more comfortable and Neilla isn't going quite as berserk when she sees her. That is a step in the right direction.

Working on "Down" command. We do puppy push ups "Sit" "Down" "Sit". She is getting the down a little faster now. Next week when she has a chance to have more food, I want to start working on "Leave It"

Neilla wasn't drinking enough water for my liking and eating snow when she was outside. I had a nice 5 quart pan that was enameled inside, she apparently didn't like that, I gave her a Stainless Steel dish and she drank water.

Gotta love these dogs that are smart and know what they want.
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Val da Tiger

Fuzzybutt the cat.
Neilla the Big White puppy.

RIP Cheyenne - AKA: Digger, CheyChey Girl, Cheyenne Large and In charge. 2/16/02 - 2/27/16
RIP DeeDee - AKA: DD Poo, Little Bit, Binky (part of the Binky and Booboo team) 6/23/02-6/20/11
RIP Lakota - AKA: Bubba, Big Boy, BooBoo (the other part of the Binky and BooBoo team). 1/19/03-9/19/2011
RIP Raya - AKA: Raz-a, Ray a Sunshine, RayBestos, the little one, Silly Girl. 9/21/05 - 6/27/14

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#346380 - 12/19/17 03:15 PM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val]
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Thanks a lot for the Neilla update; glad to hear that her food issues are getting clarified.

It's really interesting to learn about her behavior and how you plan to shape it further.

Please tell us more when you can.

MJ

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#346381 - 12/19/17 03:24 PM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: Mary Jane]
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One thing that I think is in our future is some tracking. May not be for competition but fun for me and mental exercise for Neilla.

This gal can smell when the cat is coming up stairs or sitting at the top of the step. Right now I have a visual barrier to help Fuzzy get comfortable and Neilla not so reactive.
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Val da Tiger

Fuzzybutt the cat.
Neilla the Big White puppy.

RIP Cheyenne - AKA: Digger, CheyChey Girl, Cheyenne Large and In charge. 2/16/02 - 2/27/16
RIP DeeDee - AKA: DD Poo, Little Bit, Binky (part of the Binky and Booboo team) 6/23/02-6/20/11
RIP Lakota - AKA: Bubba, Big Boy, BooBoo (the other part of the Binky and BooBoo team). 1/19/03-9/19/2011
RIP Raya - AKA: Raz-a, Ray a Sunshine, RayBestos, the little one, Silly Girl. 9/21/05 - 6/27/14

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#346383 - 12/19/17 04:41 PM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val]
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Pretty dog!

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#346386 - 12/20/17 06:47 AM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: Codmaster]
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What a journey so far! She sounds a lot like my family and a rescued GSD we cobsidered adopting. It didn't work out because our Abbey was too darn protective of her family so with young children present I was concerned I could not keep the rescue safe. He is so smart and so mischevious, but he is also strong and just needs training. Unfortunately, Abbey couldn't relax around him and we had to send him back frown.

Keep up the good work! I know it is tough now but she seems like she will be an awesome dog!
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#346389 - 12/20/17 11:24 AM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: DarkEyes]
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She is so pretty wub I'm so glad you found each other.
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#346392 - 12/20/17 06:21 PM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: Shilohsmom]
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She's a smart cookie and definitely knows what she wants but YOU know best, keep up the good work! I bet she will be a natural at tracking. thumbup
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#346393 - 12/20/17 07:29 PM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: SeanRescueMom]
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Oh, one thing I forgot to tell you guys is Neilla is a Kleptomaniac. She loves to steal things. The first damage was the afternoon we got home, I HAD an insulated shirt hanging in the laundry room. Yes HAD it got ripped as she was trying to get it off the hook. I never gave my hanging cloths a thought because my Sheps always left my things alone.

I am almost thinking it might have been a way for her to get attention. I have a terry cloth towel on the bench in the laundry room, she keeps taking it off. Today I picked it and was folding it telling her it was mine and she had to stop stealing it. She ducked her head and backed away like I beat her. Maybe it was one of those things she did to get attention. I am going to try just picking it up and not saying any thing to her. Maybe I can get her to stop if the attention stops.
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Fuzzybutt the cat.
Neilla the Big White puppy.

RIP Cheyenne - AKA: Digger, CheyChey Girl, Cheyenne Large and In charge. 2/16/02 - 2/27/16
RIP DeeDee - AKA: DD Poo, Little Bit, Binky (part of the Binky and Booboo team) 6/23/02-6/20/11
RIP Lakota - AKA: Bubba, Big Boy, BooBoo (the other part of the Binky and BooBoo team). 1/19/03-9/19/2011
RIP Raya - AKA: Raz-a, Ray a Sunshine, RayBestos, the little one, Silly Girl. 9/21/05 - 6/27/14

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#346394 - 12/20/17 10:40 PM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val]
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Yes, she may, in her own careful way, be trying to forge a connection with you. Or, she may want a special memento which smells like you, to keep her grounded when you’re gone.
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#346410 - 12/21/17 11:59 PM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: Braverhund]
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Or perhaps she sees this as something you value so she should also value it?

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#346431 - 12/22/17 10:52 PM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: middleofnowhere]
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Sounds like the right kind of attention and some structure will help a lot with her. She's lovely, congratulations on the new addition!
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#346468 - 12/27/17 12:13 PM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Neilla checking in here. Thez tdell mez I waz Good Girl when all dem peoplez waz in da houze.

We kept Neilla up stairs and away from the guests. She isn't quite ready for that much exposure to strangers yet. She barks as soon as anyone gets within 6 to 10 ft from her. So we let everyone see her from a distance and when it was too over whelming for her we moved her away.

She met out Nephew last week did her bark thing and then slowly walked up to him, on Christmas when she saw him, she looked at him and walked right up to him. So it is the first intro where she puts out the defense, so on intro's I will make everyone a walking treat machine. She loves her food.

Fuzzybutt and Neilla is still a work in progress. The cat is getting more comfortable and Neilla is getting less excited.

The super cold weather we are having isn't to Neilla's liking. She apparently never had much for toys, she isn't sure what to do with them. Also she really doesn't want to play any amount in the house. But she is loosening up a little in the garage and making steps to play. But if we laugh at her antics she stops and drops her head. So this will be another work in progress.

Neilla said I should share a few pictures with you.
Why are you watching me, I am so tired.

When you are tired and can't hold your head up just use this gate thing.

I am the prettiest and best door draft stopper.
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Val da Tiger

Fuzzybutt the cat.
Neilla the Big White puppy.

RIP Cheyenne - AKA: Digger, CheyChey Girl, Cheyenne Large and In charge. 2/16/02 - 2/27/16
RIP DeeDee - AKA: DD Poo, Little Bit, Binky (part of the Binky and Booboo team) 6/23/02-6/20/11
RIP Lakota - AKA: Bubba, Big Boy, BooBoo (the other part of the Binky and BooBoo team). 1/19/03-9/19/2011
RIP Raya - AKA: Raz-a, Ray a Sunshine, RayBestos, the little one, Silly Girl. 9/21/05 - 6/27/14

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#346474 - 12/27/17 04:03 PM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val]
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Val, I looooove her! Baby steps in learning so many new things, with wonderful you being so patient with her. Neilla is just horgeous, like a fluffy creamy bear of total soulful beauty. wub
Love her progress with meeting people, with Fuzzybutt, and adjusting to new things like playtime. She is in the best place to become her very best self. Good girl, Neilla! thumbup
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#346479 - 12/27/17 09:49 PM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: Braverhund]
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I love the one of her resting her head on the gate. wub Honestly she has done quite well in such a short time and I know she will thrive under your guidance and TLC.
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#346481 - 12/28/17 10:52 AM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: SeanRescueMom]
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Val, you see so much in your girl-that she drops her head if you laugh-so you have more to train out of her. Neilla is in the right place to learn to love life.

Also, you reminded me of sweet times with Wolf-who I had to teach to play. I chewed some squeakies in those days -but it worked.

I love her pictures smile

MJ

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#346489 - 12/30/17 11:46 AM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: Mary Jane]
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More Neilla.

Learned that she isn't comfortable playing in the house, but in the garage with two shakes of her powerful neck this is what is left.



Learning house manners. I am trying to teach her that the kitchen is off limits, she will go over there and we can call her to us. This morning she stood where the tile changes from one tile to another and just looked in.

The gate panels with the cover protect the steps so Fuzzy can come up from the lower level and into our bedroom.

Neilla sitting for food.


Playing the find it game.

Learning Down

Attention from her dad.

Visiting me in my office.
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Val da Tiger

Fuzzybutt the cat.
Neilla the Big White puppy.

RIP Cheyenne - AKA: Digger, CheyChey Girl, Cheyenne Large and In charge. 2/16/02 - 2/27/16
RIP DeeDee - AKA: DD Poo, Little Bit, Binky (part of the Binky and Booboo team) 6/23/02-6/20/11
RIP Lakota - AKA: Bubba, Big Boy, BooBoo (the other part of the Binky and BooBoo team). 1/19/03-9/19/2011
RIP Raya - AKA: Raz-a, Ray a Sunshine, RayBestos, the little one, Silly Girl. 9/21/05 - 6/27/14

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#346490 - 12/30/17 02:04 PM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val]
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She is beautiful, Val!!
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#346492 - 12/31/17 09:30 AM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: TimberWolf]
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Her coat looks great and with your help she's learning her manners. Happy New Year to you and the newest member of your family! cheers
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#346509 - 01/02/18 07:15 PM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: SeanRescueMom]
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It's always a challenge at first, because you know eventually she will be bonded and understand the ways of her new home, but things can't be rushed. Sounds like she is coming along doing well.
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#346510 - 01/02/18 09:37 PM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Val, I just wished to thank you for taking the time and effort to take and post pictures of your beautiful Neilla. wub I feel grateful to watch her transformation under your loving care.
Surely, Neilla’s future is now a beautiful and bright one! bloomrose
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#346670 - 01/17/18 12:33 PM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: Braverhund]
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Neilla has been with us 6 weeks yesterday. Do you ever feel like you struck gold. The only situation that isn't good yet is Neilla and the Cat Fuzzybutt. I am not putting any blame on either, they each have their own personality and agendas. Fuzzybutt has always been a stubborn cat, she will do things when SHE is ready and willing. At this point she is having a bit of fun to see if she can sneak up to our bedroom without Neilla seeing or smelling her. Then there are days when she sits on the other side of the gate and meows to get Neilla wound up so we tell Neilla to behave. Neilla has discovered that she is a big strong girl and can pop over her gate. She did that yesterday but there wasn't any aggression like I was seeing at first, this is just ears up and tail wagging.

Neilla got a big treat yesterday, Hubby took her with in the truck while he cleaned up the snowfall from Monday. Neilla rides so well and seems to really enjoy riding even if it is snow plowing.
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Fuzzybutt the cat.
Neilla the Big White puppy.

RIP Cheyenne - AKA: Digger, CheyChey Girl, Cheyenne Large and In charge. 2/16/02 - 2/27/16
RIP DeeDee - AKA: DD Poo, Little Bit, Binky (part of the Binky and Booboo team) 6/23/02-6/20/11
RIP Lakota - AKA: Bubba, Big Boy, BooBoo (the other part of the Binky and BooBoo team). 1/19/03-9/19/2011
RIP Raya - AKA: Raz-a, Ray a Sunshine, RayBestos, the little one, Silly Girl. 9/21/05 - 6/27/14

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#346671 - 01/17/18 02:17 PM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val]
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Sorry, I had to take a break, some big nose kept flipping my hand and arm up.

Neilla just had her first session with the Extreme Kong, trying to find things to keep her busy. Her idea of keeping busy is petting her consistently, it is more than she likes it, she Needs to have human contact. She played with the kong trying to get the food out for about 20 mins. That is the longest she has gone when she is loose in the house without human contact. I was getting a snack for me and Neilla stayed out of the kitchen. She is learning and is so smart.

This is what I meant earlier when I said we struck Gold. It is like she has been with us for a long time, not just 6 weeks.

I am still a fan of the GSD, but she is the dog that we needed right now.
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Fuzzybutt the cat.
Neilla the Big White puppy.

RIP Cheyenne - AKA: Digger, CheyChey Girl, Cheyenne Large and In charge. 2/16/02 - 2/27/16
RIP DeeDee - AKA: DD Poo, Little Bit, Binky (part of the Binky and Booboo team) 6/23/02-6/20/11
RIP Lakota - AKA: Bubba, Big Boy, BooBoo (the other part of the Binky and BooBoo team). 1/19/03-9/19/2011
RIP Raya - AKA: Raz-a, Ray a Sunshine, RayBestos, the little one, Silly Girl. 9/21/05 - 6/27/14

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#346674 - 01/17/18 07:46 PM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val]
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She sounds like an amazing addition to your family. I'm so happy for you!
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#346675 - 01/17/18 08:42 PM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val]
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Val, I'm very fortunate to see many Great Pyrs almost weekly. A national pyr rescue group has a local branch and they vet many where I work.

All ages, all types of health from wonderful to heartworm positive. With few exceptions, they soak up positive attention. It's so fun to meet them, watch them get healthy and well cared for and then go to foster homes or adoptions.

I think you have a keeper and she is very lucky to have you.
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#346676 - 01/17/18 08:55 PM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val]
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Originally Posted By: Wisc.Tiger_Val
.... she is the dog that we needed right now.


What a blessing that you found each other. I don't have much dog experience, but these minds wrapped in fur and trimmed with a tail give us the world.

Glad to hear how well it's going.

MJ

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#346689 - 01/19/18 08:21 AM Re: Neilla's Journey [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val]
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Originally Posted By: Wisc.Tiger_Val
Neilla has been with us 6 weeks yesterday. Do you ever feel like you struck gold.


You certainly did strike gold, sounds like you're over the moon with Neilla and visa versa. wub
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