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#346837 - 02/03/18 01:18 PM Re: Canine Flu Shot [Re: Mary Jane]
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Hi MJ, thanks for looking at that, I am less concerned now!

I know that with the live virus you are not *supposed* to be able to catch the virus, but I know that things happen in the manufacturing process where sometimes it does happen.

I read somewhere (but not carefully), that they couldn't get a MLV licensed, which seemed weird.
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#346845 - 02/03/18 07:46 PM Re: Canine Flu Shot [Re: MaxaLisa]
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#346855 - 02/04/18 11:40 AM Re: Canine Flu Shot [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Interesting info here. I'm wondering why a second vaccine is required and not just one like for us. Doesn't anyone know?
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#346857 - 02/04/18 12:37 PM Re: Canine Flu Shot [Re: Shilohsmom]
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My guess is that the first one primes the immune system to be ready for the attack, and the second one is where the most antibodies are made since the body now kinda knows what it's going after after receiving the first shot. That's super informal, MJ probably could say things better and more completely.

I should add, that some viral vaccines only need one successful vax to provide long term immunity. I am wondering those might be highly adjuvated and maybe the flu Vax not so much. No clue, not much info out about it since most dog owners haven't been using it since it's only for dogs in high dog exposure areas.


Edited by MaxaLisa (02/04/18 12:39 PM)
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#346859 - 02/04/18 07:12 PM Re: Canine Flu Shot [Re: MaxaLisa]
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I would opt to keep my dog out of high risk situations rather than immunize.

I'm an old geezer myself and have not had a flu shot in years. I was getting them regularly but the last one I got didn't do much for me as I caught every bug that came through town that year. I know getting the shot isn't supposed to be related but I just can't disassociate the two. (so logic leaves my mind on that one...)

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#346876 - 02/05/18 10:57 PM Re: Canine Flu Shot [Re: middleofnowhere]
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You may not be wrong middle:
https://www.statnews.com/2015/11/11/flu-shots-reduce-effectiveness/

It's also true that the flu vaccines are less effective in older populations.

As for the dog, she has to go to daycare, no way around that with her separation anxiety. Luckily they accepted the waiver from the vet.

They do say the canine vax will decrease the amount of viral shedding that a dog does after they come in contact with the actual virus, but I couldn't find a list of ingredients, including adjuvant.
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#346890 - 02/07/18 04:54 PM Re: Canine Flu Shot [Re: Shilohsmom]
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Originally Posted By: Shilohsmom
....I'm wondering why a second vaccine is required ...


Short answer-the response to each vaccine in each species is different. It's really one of the beauties of the science how much variability you can find and then search for reasons.

More realistic answer-people don't like to get shots so there is a high economic incentive for a manufacturer to develop a vaccine that has reasonable efficacy in one shot. With flu vaccines in many people, you're also building upon the immunity from the vaccine in the previous year.

MJ

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