I am in CT, have not heard of either of those breeders which doesn't mean anything. Do they health test their breeding stock? Any titles?
What are you looking for in a german shepherd?
Ozzie von Kleinen Hain
Danger Danger von Kleinen Hain aka "Masi"
"Angel" Harmonyhill's Hy Jynx aka "Jynx"
"Angel" Jakoda's Jagged Edge aka "Jag"