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#58899 - 06/28/10 08:34 PM Re: need help with papillomas [Re: Sage's mom]
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Regular Moducare is supposed to be good for viral issues, and so is vitamin C, which might be the easiest?
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#58902 - 06/28/10 08:49 PM Re: need help with papillomas [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Poor thing. Mandi had one a few months back on the tip of her nose. I thought it would never go away.
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#58909 - 06/28/10 09:13 PM Re: need help with papillomas [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Originally Posted By: MaxaLisa
Regular Moducare is supposed to be good for viral issues, and so is vitamin C, which might be the easiest?



what would you recommend and how much daily?

whatever would work best is what I want not what is easiest

He's still eating and acting fine now but if these new ones on his tongue get the size of the original one I can't imagine him still feeling good.
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#58926 - 06/28/10 09:45 PM Re: need help with papillomas [Re: Sage's mom]
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Obie had one on his lips when he was around 7 months old. We added 1000mg of vitamin C to his diet during the time. The puppy wart finally went away when he was 10 months old. One day he woke up and it was pretty much gone.

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#58941 - 06/28/10 10:26 PM Re: need help with papillomas [Re: Jason L]
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thanks for that info Jason smile
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#59288 - 06/29/10 09:40 PM papillomas - more questions - vitamin c [Re: Sage's mom]
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This morning I checked his mouth and there are 2 new spots on his tongue and the previous ones have gotten slightly bigger. frown

Should I be giving 250mg twice a day or 500mg twice a day? Something else?

Also, what brand/type of Vitamin C? I'm learning that there are 3 different types (ascorbic acid, dehydroascorbic acid, and sodium ascorbate)
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#59295 - 06/29/10 09:59 PM Re: papillomas - more questions - vitamin c [Re: Sage's mom]
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EsterC is readily available and a good type to use, it can be given in tablets, capsules, or powder. I use sodium ascorbate here because Max tolerates that the best. Here's a recent thread with a discussion on the versions of C: http://www.germanshepherdhome.net/forum/....html#Post55988 I would give the 500mg twice a day. If that's tolerated, you can increase it to 1000mg twice a day.

I found this reference to the Balch and Balch book, Prescription for Natural Healing (doses for adult humans):

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...SUMMARY from the entry on 'Warts' in the book Prescription for Nutritional Healing (3rd Edition). The authors are Phyllis A. Balch, CNC and James F. Balch, MD. I have not typed it out word for word.

* Warts are caused by the human papilloma virus (HPV)

* The most important supplements are Vit. B complex for normal cell multiplication, and Vit. C with bioflavonoids for its antiviral activity. Suggested dosage: 50mg of each major B vitamin 3 x daily, and 4000-10,000 mg daily of vit. C.

OTHER IMPORTANT SUPPLEMENTS ARE AS FOLLOWS

* L-Cysteine. 500 mg twice daily.

*Methylsulfonyl-methane (MSM). Take as directed on the label.

* Vitamin A with mixed carotenoids including natural beta-carotene.

* Vitamin E. 400-800 IU daily. You can also cut open the Vit. E capsules and apply them to the wart daily.

* Zinc. 50-80 mg daily.

LESS IMPORTANT, BUT STILL HELPFUL

* Multivitamin and mineral complex * Reishi or shiitake extract

HERBS

* Aloe vera gel, myrhh; oils of clove, lemongrass, peppermint, tea tree or wintergreen.

* Tinctures of black walnut, chickweed, goldenseal and pau d'arco used externally on the warts.

* Aloe vera gel dabbed on the wart two or three times daily.

* Astralagus

* Black walnut, esp. for warts in the mouth and throat.

WAYS TO REMOVE WARTS

* Apply crushed garlic and cover with bandage for 24 hours. Blisters will form, and it will fall off in about a week.

* Eat more foods with sulfur-containing amino acids: asparagus, citrus fruits, eggs, garlic, onions.

* Salicylic acid (eg aspirin).


from this thread: http://www.prohealth.com/me-cfs/blog/boardDetail.cfm?id=103326 (btw, great book, I have it on my shelf)

Interesting about the vitamin B, and it looks like the sulfur in the MSM is what works on the warts. So if the vitamin C doesn't start turning things around quickly, I would add a multivitamin, and either a B-50 or MSM or both.
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#59303 - 06/29/10 10:16 PM Re: papillomas - more questions - vitamin c [Re: MaxaLisa]
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thanks again Lisa!

I was wondering if Ester-C would be good.

I will also try to get a picture up tomorrow of it
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#59545 - 06/30/10 03:13 PM papillomas pictures [Re: Sage's mom]
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frown more are visible now







today I noticed something at the back of his throat



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#59549 - 06/30/10 03:28 PM Re: papillomas pictures [Re: Sage's mom]
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ewwww, kinda gross!

Yep, get his immune system up and running. I think it takes a couple of months for them to fall off? But I bet you'll know if the supplements are working because they should slow in forming, stop forming completely, and lastly start falling off? That's a guess, but I think it sounds right???
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