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#7361 - 02/22/10 05:22 PM Sedation prior to Euthansia
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Its a hard topic but I think its better to put some thought into this now rather than later when it might be too late.

Most people assume that their Vets will do the right thing when it comes to putting our animals to sleep, but this isn't always the case. Some of you may not be aware of this, but in many areas it is not required that the Vets sedate the animal prior to euthanising it. The results can horrific and cause even more pain for grieving pet owners.

Please have this conversation with your Vet NOW and have your file noted that you REQUIRE SEDATION BEFORE EUTHANSIA. This way there can be no misunderstandings and you will not have to remember this during what will be one of the hardest moments of your life.
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#7365 - 02/22/10 05:29 PM Re: Sedation prior to Euthansia [Re: Shilohsmom]
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I have not heard nor known it was common practice to sedate before euthanasia, but my old spaniel mix went peacefully without complications, without sedation.

I never really thought about it, but I guess if your dog gets anxious at the vet's, and anxious around strangers and close quarter handling, then the prior sedation would make a big difference in the dog just slipping away peacefully vs. fighting against it.
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#7372 - 02/22/10 05:45 PM Re: Sedation prior to Euthansia [Re: Castlemaid]
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I'm thankful your old spaniel mix was able to go peacefully without sedation, I know others have as well. I also know of the horror that can happen when it doesn't.

Many of you might remember Millie on the other boards and her final moments. I know my beloved Ebony fought euthansia with everything she had for some 7 mins before she gave in. This scene left Anne (her owner) with nightmares for weeks following it.
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#7377 - 02/22/10 05:53 PM Re: Sedation prior to Euthansia [Re: Castlemaid]
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Even when my dog was euthanized at home, my vet prescribed Ace (which my dog had historically tolerated extremely well), for a pre-euthanasia sedative. When the vet and her tech arrived, Zamboni was soooo relaxed and happy, I'm sure she wasn't even aware of what happened after that.

I have a note in all of my dog's charts (including at specialists' offices) that my dogs must be sedated before euthanasia, unless the situation obviously preempts that. It's a kindness. Things can go wrong during an euthanasia procedure, which makes it more difficult. Our dogs can get stressed simply because we're so stressed. The extra sedative keeps it from being more difficult than it needs to be.

I've had both my dogs sedated, and it was the best thing I've ever done each time. I said goodbye early before the sedatives took hold, then I had enough time to hold them as they just slipped away peacefully.

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#7566 - 02/22/10 10:19 PM Re: Sedation prior to Euthansia [Re: Shilohsmom]
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Where I work we place a catheter prior to euthanasia but do not sedate most animals. If they are very stressed or if we are unable to handle them, then sedation can be used. I've not witnessed any problems with our procedure.
I personally am VERY AGAINST sedation for my pets. While I don't want any complications, it is hard for me to see them sedate. I feel I would not be saying goodbye to my pet, but the body of them. I want them mentally and physically with me til the end. In the best situation, this decision will never need to be made, and they will all pass peacefully in their sleep. (in my dreams anyway)
I do think you have every right to explain your wishes to your veterinarian beforehand, and they will work with you for whatever you are comfortable with.
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#7568 - 02/22/10 10:23 PM Re: Sedation prior to Euthansia [Re: Dinahmyte]
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I have seen it go horribly wrong without sedation so now, I always drug them first.
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#7571 - 02/22/10 10:27 PM Re: Sedation prior to Euthansia [Re: Dinahmyte]
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I've had to euthanize many of my pets over the years, dogs, cats, and others, and have never sedated an animal prior to euthanasia. Every last one has gone peacefully and easily within seconds of the injection. I've never even heard of such a thing. What is the purpose? It seems multiple injections would just prolong the situation, add additional discomfort and stress, and as Dianna said, in those final moments I'd feel my pet was already half gone when I had to say goodbye.
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#7597 - 02/22/10 10:42 PM Re: Sedation prior to Euthansia [Re: Chris Wild]
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Originally Posted By: Chris Wild
...What is the purpose? It seems multiple injections would just prolong the situation, add additional discomfort and stress, and as Dianna said, in those final moments I'd feel my pet was already half gone when I had to say goodbye.

When you have seen fear or confusion in their eyes and you witness an animal fight death with every last living cell in their body, you lean towards sedation first. It might take 2 shots, yes, but the animal only feels the discomfort of the first. I say my goodbyes before sedation and I hold them all the way thru the second shot.
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#7655 - 02/22/10 11:31 PM Re: Sedation prior to Euthansia [Re: SLEACHY]
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I have the Vet sedate first. While the sedation is taking effect I talk to them I pet them I tell them how very much I love them and that I will be with them. All they need to do is relax.

When we put our horse Pixie down, her leg joints were shot, but her heart and mind where still young. The Vet was very worried that she would fight it, so we had a nice long talk and decided to tranquilize her to the point she was just about ready to go down. This horse never laid down to do any thing but a quick roll, she never stayed laying down and that is what did her leg joints in. So we knew she would fight the laying down.

One of the reason's my Vet was so concerned was the day before a friend asked her to put her dog down, well it went really really bad and it shook my Vet up pretty bad. She had never had one go bad.

I will do any thing and every thing I can to prevent my animals from leaving this world in a fighting fear. The sedation shot doesn't cost much.

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#7668 - 02/22/10 11:43 PM Re: Sedation prior to Euthansia [Re: Wisc.Tiger_Val]
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Interesting. I don't think I have ever before heard of a euthanasia going badly. Animals being stressed under the circumstances and a sedative being a good idea for that reason I can certainly see, but the idea of the actual euthanasia backfiring is new to me.
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