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#14297 - 03/04/10 08:22 PM Re: Before and After of feeding raw ***** [Re: wonderdog]
Jane Jean Offline
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I don't have before/after pics, but I know from seeing and feeling the coats of other GSD's, a major difference!
My dogs hardly shed and they are silky soft.
I believe they are more toned too, but that is more to do with activity levels when I compare the other non rawfed GSD's.
Teeth are much whiter/shinier and they have no odor, bad breath or otherwise!
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#18849 - 03/13/10 11:27 AM Grimm - Before and After raw diet change [Re: SouthernThistle]
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(Posting for Patti)

Grimm stopped developing at age 8 - 10 months. He stayed "stuck" physically and emotionally at that age-- for an entire YEAR. Something, I knew, was very wrong.

He was on Orijen 6 Fresh Fish, a premium grain-free kibble. Yet, he had very sparse, short, pale, poor coat, a thin weak frame, little muscle at all, off and on chronic diarrhea (pancreas, stool samples, bloodwork all normal)-- and at 18 months, he still looked like an 8 - 10 month old... he looked like Bambi.









I knew that somehow, he was not absorbing nutrients. His vet discussed malabsorption syndomes, and felt this was not the issue, with such good bloodwork results. I'd been hashing around starting a raw diet, after much research-- and the vet urged me to try that.

I started feeding Grimm raw meals-- with much support from everyone here. \:\)

I saw results almost immediately. Grimm suddenly began acting calmer.. more settled, less frenzied. He could concentrate more when we played a training game.

But the shockers were physical. His coat fell out, nearly all of it. In it's place was a thick, soft, glossy pelt of deeply pigmented real GSD fur... instead of the sparse, prickly, brittle, pale hairs he always had.

He developed thick heavy slabs of muscles. His flat butt became rounded and firm, his forearms muscled, his shoulders fuller, his chest much less pinched, under a thick coating of firm muscle.

Tartar disappeared from his teeth.

His head got wider suddenly.. and wider.

All these changes happened in a short time after beginning the raw. Here are pics of Grimm after just 3 months on raw.

(And yes-- this is the same dog!)










If his body was not getting enough nutrients on premium grain-free kibble for all those months to develop properly.. what was happening with his brain? Grimm has always acted many months younger than he is. I am eager to see if his maturity level developes along with his body now.

Thanks for looking. Amazing what a raw diet can mean for a dog needing those nutrients! What do you think?

From this..



..to this, in just under 3 months?

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#18867 - 03/13/10 12:15 PM Re: Grimm - Before and After raw diet change [Re: Lauri & the Gang]
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Thank you so VERY much for posting this, Lauri! The positive changes on a raw diet were truly dramatic and incredible. I have you to thank for your guidance! Without you, I would not have begun raw with Grimm. I had no idea how easy and inexpensive it is! And the results are AMAZING! party Thank you Lauri for your kindhearted mentorship, hugging and for posting this for others to see!
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#26546 - 03/31/10 05:34 PM Re: Grimm - Before and After raw diet change [Re: Braverhund]
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And, in turn, without Patti.....we would still be reading about raw instead of feeding raw! I love the looks we get if have to go to the grocery store on the fly to get meat and tell the cashier it's for our dogs laugh
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#39120 - 05/06/10 04:40 AM Re: Grimm - Before and After raw diet change [Re: SouthernThistle]
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Holy crap Patti that is amazing!! He looks great!
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#98772 - 10/27/10 09:55 PM Re: Grimm - Before and After raw diet change [Re: mjbgsd]
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I just got our Gsd Odessa in august at 13 months. She had been fed kibble but we immediaately tranitioned her over to raw. She was flown to us so we had a few weeks of decreased appetite. When we got her she had just finished her first heat and had blown her coat. Then we had her spayed and finally she seemed settled in and happy. During this period her coat seemed to improve with very little shedding. We live in the northeast and in September shedding began BUT also change in texture of coat along with massive shedding and dryness. We supplement salmon oil but looking at her coat now wondering about whether the befits of raw are? Her weight and muscle tone good anyone have any ideas? Comments

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#98787 - 10/27/10 10:17 PM Re: Grimm - Before and After raw diet change [Re: Kirchnel]
Jane Jean Offline
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What are you feeding her, and how much are you supplementing? If the meals aren't balanced then feeding raw can be detrimental to the health and coat. She did just go thru a stress, betweeen the home transition, heat cycle, and spay...thats a big deal in a short time.
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#98796 - 10/27/10 10:32 PM Re: Grimm - Before and After raw diet change [Re: Jane Jean]
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Do you have any pictures to show us? What is her weight and what (and how much) are you feeding her? What supplements are you giving her? As Jane said, she has been through a lot lately, and this surely will have some short-term effect on her overall appearance.
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#98806 - 10/27/10 10:57 PM Re: Grimm - Before and After raw diet change [Re: GrandJan]
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Glad I found this forum! I know she has gone thru a lot and this is our first time when we got a dog from far away and an older puppy.
We are feeding frozen raw beef, lamb chicken and turkey. It is mixed with bone and some vegetables. We are supplementing with salmon oil and I just (today) started adding vit E to make sure she is absorbing. She is about 65 lbs and on the taller side of standard. Just making it the breeder who raised her said she was about 67 prior to heat. At time of spay she was 60. She has since put her weight back.
I am sending this from my iPad which I don't have pictures on. When I get to my computer I can post if I can figure out how. But not recent. They are of her in full coat when she was with breeder. I can try and get some in the next day or so if it stops raining. We are feeding 2 lbs a day.

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#98818 - 10/27/10 11:15 PM Re: Grimm - Before and After raw diet change [Re: Kirchnel]
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If you could give us the ratio of meat to bones, that would be helpful too. Glad to hear you added the Vit. E. What amounts of fish oil and E are you giving her?
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