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#98820 - 10/27/10 11:28 PM Re: Grimm - Before and After raw diet change ***** [Re: GrandJan]
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Organ meats (in extremely *tiny* amounts) in the mix, too? A raw diet, when correctly balanced, is amazing. smile
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#98822 - 10/27/10 11:44 PM Re: Grimm - Before and After raw diet change [Re: Braverhund]
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I just know that it is80% meat, organ meat and bone with 20% vegetable.

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#98823 - 10/27/10 11:45 PM Re: Grimm - Before and After raw diet change [Re: Kirchnel]
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I was able to find a not too good picture but can't find out where to turn enable on to enable HTML? Does anyone know.

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#98828 - 10/27/10 11:58 PM Re: Grimm - Before and After raw diet change [Re: Kirchnel]
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Originally Posted By: Kirchnel
I just know that it is80% meat, organ meat and bone with 20% vegetable.

Hmmm, is it pre-packaged? See if you can find anything specific regarding the contents. 20% vegetables shouldn't count. Vegetables are just an added extra - not part of a weighted diet of meat, bones, and organ meat. Unless the 80% is the proper ratio and the vegetables are just thrown in. If that's the case, you're probably paying too much for this food.
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#98865 - 10/28/10 01:18 AM Re: Grimm - Before and After raw diet change [Re: GrandJan]
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The first two pictures are before her heat, before I got her and in the Spring. The last, poor quality (sorry done with phone) photo was taken maybe one week ago.
Thanks for comments
p.s. 80% of the food is the meat, organ and bone mixture. It just says that and 20% vegtables.
There is no other breakdown.
I am giving about 6 pumps of salmon oil (directions were one pump per 10 lbs) and the vit E was 400 IU @ 1/4 tsp and I am giving 1/2 tsp.
Appreciate comments and advice.

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#98952 - 10/28/10 10:42 AM Re: Grimm - Before and After raw diet change [Re: Kirchnel]
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Originally Posted By: Kirchnel
80% of the food is the meat, organ and bone mixture. It just says that and 20% vegtables.
There is no other breakdown.
I am giving about 6 pumps of salmon oil (directions were one pump per 10 lbs) and the vit E was 400 IU @ 1/4 tsp and I am giving 1/2 tsp.
Appreciate comments and advice.


Good on the salmon oil, but I would stay at the 1/4 tsp. of E if it equals 400 iu. That's plenty for her.

Unfortunately, we don't have much to work with in regard to her food. I don't like that you have no idea what the ratio is in this package. What do you pay for it? Who makes it? Can you possibly do your own raw food shopping, as in buying everything individually? There we can help you a lot.

She sure is a pretty girl!!
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#100339 - 11/01/10 03:21 PM Re: Grimm - Before and After raw diet change [Re: GrandJan]
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I finally got the info. Her food is beef, chicken, turkey sometimes lamb or rabbit (re rotate). It is 80 % meet, 10% bone and 10% organ of whatever animal i.e. chicken has chicken organs and bones. I took the step into raw and don't see with my schedule buying everything individually. I have cut the vitamin e to 1/4 tsp. and continue to give salmon oil. Any ideas?

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#100348 - 11/01/10 03:58 PM Re: Grimm - Before and After raw diet change [Re: Kirchnel]
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That's too much meat vs. bone, IMO. You should be 60% RMBs/35% MM/5% OM, or at least 50/45/5. How are her poops?
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#100354 - 11/01/10 04:06 PM Re: Grimm - Before and After raw diet change [Re: GrandJan]
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Remember, the vegetables should not factor into the amount of food she gets.

If you do 2 lbs./day at 60/35/5, you would be feeding:

19 oz. RMBs
11 oz. MM
2 oz. OM

If you do 2 lbs./day at 50/45/5, you would be feeding:

16 oz. RMBs
14 oz. MM
2 oz. OM

The vegetables can be added in on top of this food, not calculated in the mix.
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#100359 - 11/01/10 05:00 PM Re: Grimm - Before and After raw diet change [Re: GrandJan]
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Her poops are good. From the get-go just about as I did a change from her breeder's kibble to raw meat when she came to us. Her poops are small in size and firm and turn white in a few days. No smell. The vegtables are not included in the percentages. That is on top of the calculation. I think I am giving 1.6 of OM, 1.6 of bone and 12.8 of muscle meat. Perhaps I am doing it wrong though. I just know it is 80% meat, 10% bone, 10% organ meat per pound. Sorry for my ignorance. Initially, like I said she looked really good and some people have said it is the season now with the shedding of the summer coat etc. But it was a change. I just had her groomed and she looked much better and much hair came off despite my daily brushing according to the groomer.

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