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#86917 - 09/26/10 04:37 AM kennel cough or congestive heart failure?
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That was the question when I took Indy to the vet tonight.

She's been sick, thick drool hanging from her mouth, eyes look awfully funny, weak in the limbs, often knuckling in the front. I never heard of all of those symptoms with the doggie flu or KC, so off to the vet.

Luckily, xrays are still clear, so although her heart is all messed up, she is thankfully not yet in early congestive heart failure. Electrolytes are also all good.

I am wishing now that I would have bought that webmaster for her when I was looking at it.

Anyways, for those that have been through KC, a few questions...

Did you see any eye problems? Did it make them weak with difficulty standing (this part worries me)? Were there long stretches of silence, and only coughing with motion or aggrevation or eating?

Those of you that have fought this, any favorite ways to help them through this? I have a favorite supplement when I get a cold - she seems to not want to take any pills.

I really hope Max doesn't get this...
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#86918 - 09/26/10 05:03 AM Re: kennel cough or congestive heart failure? [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Sorry I have nothing to offer but my best positive healing thoughts for Indy hugging I hope to hear a good update crossedfingers
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#86924 - 09/26/10 05:35 AM Re: kennel cough or congestive heart failure? [Re: bianca]
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Thank you bianca, she's so sick she can barely stand, whatever it is frown

I just gave her a dinner of whey, glutamine and probiotics mixed in apple juice - I hope that she can tolerate that without gagging/coughing. Forgot to mention that she is gagging up pools of clear, thick, slimey saliva. No temp.
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#86926 - 09/26/10 05:38 AM Re: kennel cough or congestive heart failure? [Re: MaxaLisa]
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So what did the vet think is causing this?
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#86928 - 09/26/10 05:55 AM Re: kennel cough or congestive heart failure? [Re: bianca]
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Her guess was actually kennel cough. But it doesn't seem to explain enough of the pieces to me. I'm hoping folks who've been through this can tell me if all these symptoms sound reasonable for kennel cough. I would be happy to know that this will resolve with supportive care.

She's insisting on sleeping on her favorite spot on the stairs, silly girl, it really isn't safe for her now unless I am here to help her. Poor Max, he wants his walk.
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Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
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Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
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#86929 - 09/26/10 06:54 AM Re: kennel cough or congestive heart failure? [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Just found this,

http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/121619.htm

I am sure you will have already researched it, but from everything I have just been looking at, most dogs do not have other symptoms apart from cough and maybe gagging, vomiting frown ?? hugging
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#86930 - 09/26/10 08:03 AM Re: kennel cough or congestive heart failure? [Re: bianca]
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Thank you bianca, I hadn't done too much googling yet....this sure doesn't sound like kennel cough. This sounds neurological. She just tried to pee outside and all her legs collapsed.

I was able to stop one of her fits by using my red light acupuncture thingee on her neck. I don't know if that was a coincidence or not. She's sleeping pretty peacefully for the moment.

I'd like to get into the chiro, don't know if I should use one of the backups, which may mean getting in tomorrow, or her longterm vet, but if I can get it, I'll still have to wait until Tues, though she may be booked.

I guess we see how the rest of the night goes.
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MaxaL (aka LisaT)

Jazmine, mini-mix, 10/18/2011
Max-n-Indy
Max, 5/2001-2/2012, RIP my partner, my Regal Boy
Indy, 5/1997-10/2010, RIP my friend, my teacher

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#86931 - 09/26/10 08:18 AM Re: kennel cough or congestive heart failure? [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Oh no frown I am pleased she is sleeping restfully now though. I hope somebody comes on soon that can offer some advice/suggestions. hugging
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#86935 - 09/26/10 10:19 AM Re: kennel cough or congestive heart failure? [Re: MaxaLisa]
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Lida,

Is there any chance she got into something that could be poisoning her? If so, that might cause the neurological issues you are seeing.

Is there a tox screen the vet can do?

Ge hugging t better, sweet Indy.
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#86938 - 09/26/10 10:52 AM Re: kennel cough or congestive heart failure? [Re: PositiveDog]
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Oh Lisa. I don't have anything to offer but a hugging

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