My new foster - Cheyenne

Posted by: myamom

My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 12:57 PM

Some of you may remember Cheyenne...pulled by Southern Cross from Douglas County, GA a few months ago. Sadly...she is a very sick girl...and not adoptable at this time...so we have taken her in as a long term...probably forever foster for Southern Cross.

She is very sweet!! My kids call her Granny Chey. She and Ava get along great. It's been a little rough going...and poor Chey is totally overwhelmed. It's been a battle to get her out of her crate (although she will come out for my kids much easier) ...and even bigger battle to get her to walk on my hardwood floors. In the day...I shut her off from the crate...and she stays out in our main living area...but is afraid to leave her safety zone...her blanket. She really wants to...and has made the scarey trek on her own once...to come out and join me on the porch. We're taking baby steps. She is alert, loves food, LOVES my kids and is starting to give kisses. Sweet is the best word to describe her.

Her health issues are of much more concern. She is high HW positive and what may be advanced mammary gland cancer. She also has skin issues and chronic ear infections. Her breathing is horrible.
We have a vet appt. tomorrow to plot out a good course of action.

Meet Granny Chey...and keep her in your thoughts and prayers. Thank you Southern Cross for seeing the worth in this sweet old soul.







Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 01:02 PM

awww...check Ava out getting her Photo-Op! LOL

Chey will blossom with you! Thank you for taking on this journey! hugging
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 01:03 PM

Oh Mary Ann, one of the first things I noticed were the pictures in her crate. Your kids are amazing... wub They'll be the best thing in the world for bringing her out of her shell. Kids just have a way with dogs...

I'm hoping that Granny Chey can feel better physically soon - sounds like she has a long road ahead of her. She's beautiful and couldn't be in a better place to thrive!
Posted by: Kayos

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 01:04 PM

Oh my her coat looks horrid, poor girl. I hope the vet can give some answers and help her be comfortable for whatever time she has and hoping it is a long while yet.
Posted by: GrandJan

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 01:10 PM

Mary Ann - you are the hope we see in her eyes. The joy will burst forth soon, and then you and she will know she's home.

hugging hugging
Posted by: Furonthefloor

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 01:20 PM

Yes love the pics hanging in the cage. I love "dog kids" my neices & nephews also have that way with dogs.
Granny Chey angel looks like a sweety.
Ava looks like she wants to help show Granny the ropes & I hope you are able to get her health back on track.
Good luck with her!
Posted by: Shilohsmom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 01:20 PM

Journeys are best enjoyed with baby steps so be sure to take your time.

I just love the pictures in her crate and I'm sure your kids will help her to enjoy her days. Ava looks wonderful as well.

And yes, she is another great save by Molly and Southern Cross. Many thanks.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 01:21 PM

aww...thanks guys. She looks sooo old in person...she obviously had a very tough life. She is only 8...but seems much older. Her breathing really concerns me...as it's not only on exersion..but on and off all the time....it gets very labored and loud at times....it's very sad (and I'll admit...scares me...and panics me a little)

She cowers when you pet her and doesn't like loud voices.

LOL...Kris..yes...Mary made pictures for her to cheer her up smile

Lifeasme- That was Ava's "MOM...enough with the old ladies...can't you find me someone to play with? geez..." look...lol
Ava tried playbowing...but no luck...lol...and Chey did give her a snap when she was running around too much. Another old lady reprimanding her...like Mya used to do. She's thinking..oh...no...not again...

But seriously...they like eachother..and give eachother kisses....they have both been gems!
Posted by: Karin

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 01:46 PM

The pictures of Granny Chey in the comfy crate surrounded by blankets, pillows, and the pictures created by your sweet children brought tears to my eyes. Thank you for taking her in. I hope that she can recover from her ailments and that they are wrong about the cancer. She looks like she will have a good home with you no matter how much time she has left.
Posted by: Bradyddr

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 02:30 PM

awe what a sweet face!!
Thank you for helping her out
she looks like a love bug
Posted by: LukesMom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 02:31 PM

I hope she feels better soon. I love the art work in her crate, makes it look like a cheerful hospital room.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 02:50 PM

TWO HUGE STEPS!!

One...I head odd noises coming from the living room...peaked in and NO Chey on her blanket...looked down the steps...and there she was...at the bottom of the steps waiting at the door to go outside to potty!!! That is soooo huge as it was a chore just getting her off her blanket and onto the wood to get her to go outside...and this time..she made the choice HERSELF. Also shows she's house trained and/or very smart!

Two- when we came back up from being outside...she kept looking at my couch! I said it's ok..come on...she gingerly stepped off her blanket...then back on...then off...then on...then closer to the couch...one paw on the couch...then back to the blanket....and FINALLY...ON THE COUCH!!













I think we have another Queen here! LOL
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 03:01 PM

Oh Mary Ann! She's starting to SMILE!!!

This one says...

Yeah..This is the life...

Posted by: Shilohsmom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 04:16 PM

wow Thats wonderful!!!! Def a Queen you have here my friend! And she looks so comfy cozy up on that sofa! wub
Posted by: Karin

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 04:53 PM

Awww.... that is so cute! She looks like she can't believe her good luck to be allowed not only in the house, but on the sofa as well!
Posted by: georgiapeachGSD

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 04:54 PM

MaryAnn I was lucky enough to give Chey a nice long scratch and pat her sweet head. She licked my son's hands too and sniffed my daughter a good bit as she walked by. She is so sweet. I know she will have a beautiful ending to her life now in your care. ((hugs))
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 05:03 PM

Yes Robin!! I heard that! smile

btw - er....still on the couch...I've even gone out and come back...she's never leaving it...LOL
Posted by: georgiapeachGSD

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 05:04 PM

LOL it looks like a comfy couch! wink I would be more than happy to curl up with her for a good long nap right about now!
Posted by: AngelJ

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 05:06 PM

How wonderful of you and your family to help this sweet girl. She looks like she's starting to feel at home with you.

I hope that all of her medical issues can be addressed and that she'll be better soon smile
Posted by: lil'mister

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 05:48 PM

Awww - she looks like such a gentle spirit. Coming from the south..... I hope she likes snow!!!
Congratulations to the entire family.
Posted by: Deirdre

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 07:11 PM

wow. what pictures, what a story and what a saint you are for giving her a place to call home.

good thoughts and prayers for the vet tomorrow.
Posted by: 4dognight

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 07:13 PM

Oh MaryAnn :):) she is one lucky girl to have found you and your adorable children. What an angel you are She has finally found a soft place to land (your couch LOL) You are absolutely just the best!!! The pictures say it all........
Posted by: PositiveDog

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 07:57 PM

What a nice story to read. I hope that between the vet and your loving family sweet Granny Chey makes a recovery and is around for some time.

I don't think I have seen anything sweeter than those pictures hanging in her crate.

Your daughter must have your big heart!
Posted by: wsumner

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 08:00 PM

Pics of Cheyenne right after Southern Cross rescued her. She had a flea allergy which was left untreated for years and turned in to a serious infection.

She was marked for death on the day she was saved.

Thank you Molly for saving this precious life, and thank you Mary Ann for opening your heart and home so she will finally know love for the time she has left..




Posted by: Shilohsmom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 08:07 PM

Oh that poor little girl....those pics are awful. I'm so thankful she is now with Mary Anne and her family.

Please let us know how the Vet visit goes tomarrow. I'll keep her in my thoughts and prayers.
Posted by: Shilohsmom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 08:52 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom
Yes Robin!! I heard that! smile

btw - er....still on the couch...I've even gone out and come back...she's never leaving it...LOL


I think thats HER couch now smile
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/10 09:31 PM

Mary Ann, she found heaven on the couch and isn't leaving. So in her eyes life is good no matter how long or how short.

My Chey sends doggie kisses to your Chey.

Val
Posted by: Strana1

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/10 12:43 AM

Mary Ann you are an ANGEL for taking her in, I love the photo of her on the couch, it is like she is finally in a soft safe place.
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/10 02:12 AM

I just read this whole thread. Thanks so much for taking her in. Thank your kids for drawing her all of those wonderful, cheerful pictures. And many, many brave and healing thoughts going out to Granny Chey. hugging
Posted by: ebrannan

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/10 07:24 AM

Oh Mary Ann. She is truly blessed in so many ways. Before you know it, Ava will be showing her the fire alarm exit! smile
Someday, when you have time, you HAVE to share the fire alarm story with the board, they will LOVE it!
Thank you, you wonderful person you!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/10 10:27 AM

Thanks guys hugging

Last night:



TODAY - Another HUGE Milestone! I seriously can't believe how fast we are making progress.
In the morning I open the crate...and today...she came out of the crate on her own...and was watching me while I made breakfast..."I want to come out...but that wooden floor is soooooo scarey!"



Come on Chey...come on...
I went out onto our deck..and left the door open...and kept coaxing her...she kept looking...yearning...whining...then.......ta da!



You did it Chey!! All the way across that scarey floor all by yourself! You made it outside!





Next hurdle...I went down the two flights of outside steps into the yard with Ava and called and called her...finally...sloooowly...came Chey...whining the while time...I think I can...I think I can....then again...TA DA! Came down into the yard all by herself! Then reversed the process...I went up without her...kept calling...and eventually...there she was...back upstairs all by herself!

Here she is back inside...now what? How do I deal with all this scarey wood?





I put down her comforter her comfort zone..and let her take a break from the wood floor..she's resting.....it was a big morning. smile

We see the vet this afternoon. I was pretty depressed reading her chart from her previous vet...euth was recommended. She did have partial hw treatment because it was that vet's thinking to overcome the hw asap so the cancer could be tackled. (I do understand the catch 22)But she really did horrible after the shot...and can't go through another one. I know my vet is recommending slow kill...
It's such a sad situation.......
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/10 10:38 AM

Lookit her! happyboogie

Regardless of what happens she has a happy home now. wub
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/10 11:07 AM

So heartwarming to see her progress. She's going to be a velcro dog - right on your heels every time you turn around. So happy for Chey. Keeping all fingers crossed for the vet visit! Thanks for the updates and pictures Mary Ann!!
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/10 12:59 PM

Mary Ann it's just amazing what a good home (good adults+ good kids + good dogs) can do!

just amazing

MJ
Posted by: Shilohsmom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/10 01:04 PM

She looks wonderful and she's just accomplishing soooo much. My thoughts and prayers are with you both this morning as you visit the Vet.
Posted by: georgiapeachGSD

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/10 02:51 PM

wow she is making huge steps! so happy for her!!!! you are a great mommy!
Posted by: Elf Arrow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/10 03:10 PM

Originally Posted By: LifeAsMe



That brought tears to my eyes. THANK YOU, Mary Ann.
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/10 04:35 PM

Praying for good news from the vet today. She has progressed so fast because of you. You are the best mommy ever and Chey knows it.
Posted by: Shilohsmom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/10 05:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Elf Arrow
Originally Posted By: LifeAsMe



That brought tears to my eyes. THANK YOU, Mary Ann.


This picture needs to be entered in our Monthly Photo contest this month!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/10 07:09 PM

Appt. was not good. It took every once of strength not to cry.
She's still loaded with HW. She has some fluid in lungs and abdomen..signs of some heart failure. Mammary cancer was felt but it won't be determined if they are malignant or benign as she isn't a candidate for removal. Malignant - 6-12 months...or if benign...they won't kill her but there is the risk of rupture and infection that can kill them.
Ok...so...she is not a candidate for any further hw shots. My vet wasn't sure she could go on heartguard at this stage...she is a stage 3..and said he would call and find out. I swear I have heard stories of high hw dogs being put on it.
(My vet hasn't had a dog with this stage heartworm in over a decade..)
If anyone has stories of high heartworm being treated with heartguard I would love to hear them.
Right now she is on some heartmed / diuretic for 5 days to stabalize her...and I'm to touch base with my vet to talk about future course of action.

All in all her prognosis is.....bad
Imput please frown
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/10 07:18 PM

What about treating with doxy? I know it can kill some parasite in the HW and make it easier to kill the worms? Doxy is also an anti-inflammatory and can make the dog feel better in general.

I would definitely do your own research about the heartgard and high HW dogs, sounds like your vet isn't up on it.
What is the name of the heart med?

I'm so sorry the news is not good hugging Thank you so much for taking care of this girl hugging hugging
Posted by: Shilohsmom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/10 07:23 PM

teary
Posted by: Shilohsmom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/10 07:32 PM

Didn't Donna's Shermie Bear have HW treatment this way???
Posted by: georgiapeachGSD

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/10 07:33 PM

i am sorry for the bad news...no matter what happens from here on out, she will go out of this world very very loved, and that wouldnt have happened without people like you and her rescuers! ((hugs))
Posted by: Strana1

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/10 07:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Shilohsmom
Didn't Donna's Shermie Bear have HW treatment this way???


I think you are right, I will e-mail Donna a link to this thread and maybe she can offer some advice.

update: I just sent the e-mail
Posted by: matsired

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/10 09:16 PM

Hi Maryann, Dawn, and everyone,

So glad to see Cheyenne made it to you, Maryann. She's beautiful. Love seeing her surrounded by family that loves her to pieces.

I can only speak from experience with Sherman, my only heartworm positive dog. (No personal experience with mammary tumors).

When I found out Sherman was high positive and had a cough, I started reading about heartworm on the American Heartworm Society website, see below. I also consulted southern rescuers from the forum and did lots of reading on the internet as to how dogs were holding up with conservative route, and news seemed encouraging.

Because Sherman was a senior and very emaciated and had probable kennel cough, and had just been neutered and stressed out with many changes, I chose the conservative route of treatment so that he could run and have the best quality of life during his retirement years without activity restrictions required with intensive heartworm treatment.

I treated him with monthly Heartguard and one month of Doxycycline. I had a chest xray done at Angel Memorial, which showed enlarged vessels, and because of that, his cough, and his allergies, he went on Prednisone as well.

I will say, vet at Angel was very hesitant about conservative treatment, and ran it by the Cardiology people for more input. Eventually, many months later, we switched vets closer to home for convenience, and my newer, very experienced vet, was shocked and never heard of Doxycyline/Heartguard combo treatment. She consulted her collegue, who had experience down south, and she confirmed and explained for her.

Between Georgia adoption, fostering in Tennesse, and coming to me, Sherman had been heartworm tested three times, and all confirmed high positive with microfilia in bloodstream.

BUT! Exactly one year later, after one month of Doxycycline, and one year of monthy Heartguard, (and low dose prednisone periodically which made his cough better probably from reducing inflammation in vessels), he had a NEGATIVE heartworm test. I was gleaming at the vets. She was happy and very surprised. Test very accurate.

HOWEVER, every case is different. It sounds like Cheyenne is further along, especially if she already has ascites and difficulty breathing. Stages of heartworm are listed below. Sherman never had exercise intolerance of difficulty breathing, although he did have a cough, which is long gone.

I'm getting called away, be back...

http://www.heartwormsociety.org/pet-owner-resources/canine-heartworm.html

Early Infection No abnormal clinical signs observed

Mild Disease: Cough

Moderate Disease: Cough, exercise intolerance, abnormal lung sounds

Severe Disease: Cough, exercise intolerance, dyspnea (difficulty breathing), abnormal lung sounds, hepatomegaly (enlargement of the liver), syncope (temporary loss of consciousness due to poor blood flow to the brain), ascites (fluid accumulation in the abdominal cavity), abnormal heart sounds, death
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/10 09:53 PM

Thank you everyone...and Donna.....it's devastating...I wish I didn't see that "severe disease" description....it chills me.


I wish I could take you all to our appt's...I'm so clueless with HW and the various stages and treatments...

(forgot to mention this poor old soul has staph too)

I'm going to go hug her tonight...tomorrow...start compiling all the data/stories, etc....we can't give up....
Posted by: georgiapeachGSD

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/10 10:05 PM

dont give up mary ann! you have a huge support system!!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/10 10:13 PM

Thank you...I appreciate that so very very much!
Posted by: matsired

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/10 11:41 PM

Thank you everyone...and Donna.....it's devastating...I wish I didn't see that "severe disease" description....it chills me.

Maryann,

I just read through the whole thread, and I commend you for stepping up for this sweet old dog. And I just love all the photos, especially the couch potato photos. Funny how they all seem to find the couch no matter what kind of background they come from.

I have taken on several old debilitated dogs like this, and find it takes time to sort through all the issues and come up with a plan.

Here are some thoughts popping into my head as I was reading along.

-Although Granny Chey is chronologically 8 years old, her medical problems probably make her biologically older. Not sure if vets have some sort of tool for inputing data to figure out how 'old' a dog really is, but this would help when trying to figure out how many projected years she has left if you choose an aggressive course of action for her medical issues.

-She seems to have at least one, probably two, major medical problems. The heartworm seems to be the bigger more acute issue at the moment.

Some questions I'd be asking the vet:

-What is it going to take to work up and then treat the heartworm, if possible? Will there be many tests (xrays, echos, ekgs, etc)? Approximately how much time and how often will she be spending with vets? Approximately how much will it cost in the end? WHAT TYPE OF DISCOMFORT WILL BE INVOLVED? WHAT ARE HER CHANCES OF FULL RECOVERY?

-What is it going to take to work up the mammary tumors? If cancerous, what is the course of treatment? How much will it cost? WHAT TYPE OF DISCOMFORT WILL BE INVOLVED? WHAT ARE HER CHANCES OF REMISSION, AND STATISTICALLY, WHAT ARE CHANCES OF RELAPSE AND WHEN?

Once I had all my data compiled, then I could make an informed decision on which way to go.

Once I decided to transition to hospice care, then all financial resources would INSTEAD be used to keep her comfortable and maintain quality of life, utilizing least invasive measures possible. That would mean no more workups, and probably just drugs to control her symptoms, with very few trips to the vet. Symptom management would be the goal, with comfort the priority, even if this meant a shortened life.

Some ideas of comfort care:

-Granny has very little exercise tolerance due to her heart failure caused by heartworm disease. So how about a nice walk with the family in a dog stroller? Bet she'd love this!

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/pr...u=0034458000000




-Rubberback runner for the slippery floor

-Luxury orthopedic dog bed

-Other mobiles that would allow her to view the world without exerting herself, like bicycle croozer, wagon, sled, car rides, etc

-Professional grooming to help keep her skin healthy

I'm sure members here and the kids could have a field day dreaming up creative ideas to improve the quality of life for a dog who has little exercise tolerance, may be a little uncomfortable, etc. (I had a ball doing this for my hospice dog, Millie, who had incurable degenerative progressive disease).
Posted by: 4dognight

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/10 08:25 AM

MaryAnn if I can support you in any way just call. Here are a few org, that you or southern cross could try to maybe get her a buggy or some extra help. I am sure they know of these groups but just thought I would post in case someone could help (after a health care plan is made)

United Animal Nations -Sacramento, CA: www.uan.org/lifeline -- LifeLine Grant Program $100-300 financial assistance for veterinary care

The Mosby Foundation - Staunton, VA: www.themosbyfoundation.org - limited funds available

Jake Brady Memorial Fund - Ohio: www.myjakebrady.com – non-routine vet care, emphasis on Ohio residents but funds low income, disabled, senior guardians/dogs in other states.*

The Pet Fund - www.thepetfund.com - non-emergencies only*

Help-A-Pet, Illinois: www.help-a-pet.org - for elderly, disabled, working poor; income must be under 20K individual, 40K family*

God's Creatures Ministry: www.all-creatures.org/gcm/help-cf.html - up to $50 only

IMOM (In Memory of Magic): www.imom.org - very detailed application procedures; urgent life-threatening emergencies

The Onyx and Breezy Foundation - NJ: www.onyxandbreezy.com - urgent case by case consideration
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/10 10:28 AM

Today's update:
Well...we've created a Queen for sure smile
Last night...my my husband, Ava and I were on the couch...Chey was on her blanket...and she got up..came over to the couch and started crying..."I want to be up there with you guys"...so we had to all move over and let her jump in.
Bedtime...I decided to not close her crate..and she came over to the bed and started crying...she definitely wanted to get up..lol. I made her a nice bed on the side of ours and settled her in and laid with her a little bit...because seriously..we are out of room in the bed...lol.
This morning...she came right out of the bedroom with me...no floor issues at all! She went out with Ava to potty and back in...has settled into our routine. She walked around our house pretty freely today and is now settled in on the couch for her nap with Ava.



She seeks out attention from us, has taken to following me around, and nudges me (quite hard) for petting.

I have to share this story...because I never saw anything like it...forgot to tell you guys. A couple of nights ago..she went down our stairs and changed her mind and wanted to come back up. She didn't know how to maneuver turning around on the steps...so.....she came up the entire stairs backwards! It was so amazing..never saw anything like it. She would put one back foot on the next step up...then the other...then move her two front feet up to the next step...until she was at the top.

So...anyway...to sum it up...she has integrated into our family perfectly...and we all love her very much.

Now to wrap my brain around all these medical issues...and find the best direction.
Posted by: mychance

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/10 10:50 AM

Originally Posted By: myamom
Last night...my my husband, Ava and I were on the couch...Chey was on her blanket...and she got up..came over to the couch and started crying..."I want to be up there with you guys"...so we had to all move over and let her jump in.


And now, as the saying goes, here's the rest of the story. The truth is that it isn't Mary Ann with her boundless energy to help or her really, really terrific kids that create the Queen Diva GSDs of Northeastern Pennsylvania. It's her secretly mush-hearted husband!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/10 10:55 AM

rofl

Funny! As much as he acts like...oh no...not another one...nope..I will not fall in love...nope...don't want to know nothing........

............he's in there right now...on the couch with her...petting her and talking to her...sharing some chips
....but...shhhh... he doesn't want me to see that! lol
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/10 11:12 AM

Did I read she's only 8?

Nice little chart on here: http://www.2ndchance.info/heartworm.htm so yeah, the Heartgard and Doxy...worth a shot since there is no other treatment available to her correct? Check with Danni, I think her forever foster was on that protocol.

I wonder if pred would help with the breathing and the possible cancer...

She has a family now, and that will give her a lot to live for. And a man to kinda push around...that's a bonus!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/10 11:57 AM

Thanks for the info Jean. This coincides with what my vet was trying to say...
" If your veterinarian has determined that your pet already has significant heart and lung damage, then this form of slow ivermectin/ doxycycline treatment is not for you. "

Now...whether it can still be tried...to at least maintain where your dog is...is what I need to know....
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/10 12:14 PM

Oh Mary Ann I was praying for some better news from the vet.
We all just have to keep praying for her.
Her first miracle has already happened by getting a mommy like
you and the great family she is now with.

I'm so glad she is adapting to your home and with all the love she will get, she will get better every day. She will be your shadow and stay by your side.

Hugs coming your way......and give Chey a BIG (((hug))) from me.

Linda
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/10 12:24 PM

Mary Ann, can any girl who can hustle her furry buns up the stairs backwards be anything but a miracle? wub I am sending good thoughts and energy for Cheyenne. Jean has some excellent considerations, and Donna has a perfect list of great ideas for helping a senior in need of lots of support live a more comfy life. Cheyenne is so very lucky to have you for a Mom! Sending you both hugs today. hugging
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/10 12:37 PM

YEAH, isn't that amazing! I just re-read that. How smart and agile.

When she had her first shot, what happened?
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/10 01:03 PM

Her breathing got worse. She's just in no condition for another one.

Ok...here is what I CAN do MYSELF...put together some supplements...is this a good start and if so...any suggestions on dosages? (keep in mind...heart....cancer...skin)

Salmon Oil
Vit. E
CoQ10

Any diet recommendations appreciated as well. Currently it's TOTW fish.
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/10 01:08 PM

What if she got in better shape, I wonder like...some pred...and she improved...and a broncho-dilator if that's not unhealthy for her (these are just off the top of my head, no knowledge involved type thoughts) if she could do another one in a while...then another one...a while after? I have no idea, like I said. I don't think there IS an easy answer.

She wasn't allergic to it right?

I went looking around and am having trouble finding the info we want for some reason? My brain's in park maybe!
http://www.heartwormsociety.org/pet-owner-resources/faqs.html#q29

I think that's a good list. Vetriscience makes a nice senior vitamin. DMG is my favorite and might help with her breathing.

Is she on an antibiotic for her skin?
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/10 01:09 PM

How about probiotics also? Is she on an antibiotic for the staph?
TOTW Salmon is really good. The probiotics should also help her skin. I use (personally) one with 11 different cultures, including one that helped with excema and psoriasis so maybe it will help her skin become healthy again?
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/10 01:17 PM

Yes...she's on an antibiotic...and has been on multiple diff. ones over the past few months due to various issues. Currently she is on an antibiotic for her skin. So...a probiotic makes sense. Can someone recommend one?

Jean..help me...I think I need a spread sheet!
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/10 01:21 PM

Can dogs have the same probiotics that people can? If so, I'll find out the one I just finished up. I have to get more of that anyways. It really helped my psoriasis.

I would also make sure the humidity in your house is sufficient with it being winter. Cracked, dry skin will make is worse.
Posted by: elsie

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/10 07:51 PM

just wanna say hi and send lots of hugs for taking care of this girl. love the artwork in the crate!!!
btw, miss ava is looking lovely, and your DD too!
Posted by: shepnterrier

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/10 08:04 PM

Re supplements:
The holistic vet that we go to recommends as probiotic: Vetri-Mega Probiotic,
and as a source of Omega fatty acids: Vet Solutions AllerG-3 Liquid Omega-3 FA

The probiotic comes in capsules that you open and sprinkle on the food where it dissolves completely and is tasteless. It is available from from Vetri-Science directly, online (Amazon etc.), and many vets have it. The Omega 3 is available online (Entirely Pets, Amazon, etc), some vets have it, too. We use the liquid, not capsules.

The holistic vet is very adamant about giving Omega 3 only as it has anti-inflammatory properties, whereas Omega 6 and 9 increase inflammation. Most foods are short on Omega 3, not 6 and 9. Salmon oil contains 3, 6, and 9.

The senior supplement from Vetri-Science that Jean recommended worked great for Feli and friends' dogs, too.

Suzanne Clothier recommends and uses 'System Saver' for her GSDs, it's on her web page, http://flyingdogpress.com/systemsaver/
I discovered it too late for Feli to be of use, so i have no experience with it myself. Suzanne Clothier I take very seriously, though.

Senior dogs are such special gifts. I miss mine (adopted at age 9) very much. So wonderful Granny Chey is getting the love for however long she still has. Thank you for seeing a dog who has not been seen in years, for loving her and giving her her home.

Sarah



Posted by: shepnterrier

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/10 08:19 PM

Breathing/comfort:

Donna and Jean have given excellent advice on the next steps medically, the questions to ask to her vets, and the options available once there is more info on the consequences of the therapeutic options. Sounds like this sweet dog has a will to live and to enjoy life now that it is finally good.

Difficulty breathing is a tough one for quality of life (I have asthma, another way of breathing difficulty, and luckily only episodic), and from that I'd say she should get whatever relief there is available that helps her breathe. One should be able to breathe when resting and when walking slowly to relieve oneself.

If the vet would give her a bronchi-dilator (albuterol?) as Jean suggested, or an inhalant steroid (Flovent?) - how would one get a mask on these pointy shepherd muzzles? Or puff in their mouths, hoping they will breathe in through the mouth? Anyone with experience? There is the AeroKat inhaler with masks of different sizes for kitties but feline faces are so different. The 2nd generation AeroKat has a ‘FlowView’ device so you can see whether kitty is holding breath or actually taking breaths as the doc told her.

Donna's suggestions about quality of life are based on long experience, and I second every bit. For traction on the floor, someone on this board suggested yoga mats as an inexpensive way if you don't want to roll out carpet. They often smell though when new, maybe not so good with breathing trouble. Comfort, comfort, comfort. The most comfy orthopedic beds. The stroller.

I donated Feli's stroller to GSRNE, and still have some of her orthopedic beds (Flex-Gel, memory foam, and I made her a soft wrap around bolster to measure for on top of the orthopedic mattresses). Wish I could get them to her easily.

Best wishes for Granny Chey also from Chip who misses his Granny Feli and loves wise senior GSDs.

Sarah
Posted by: shepnterrier

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/10 08:23 PM

adding to 4dognight's list of funding organizations:

http://www.greymuzzle.org/index.htm

They sound very resourceful, are still fairly new.
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/10 09:51 PM

So glad to hear she's setting in so well but v. sorry to hear about all of the health issues. hugging

I do have experience with bronchodilators for dogs b/c Chama had scaring on her lungs. They are in pill form and they made Chama really agitated even at a low dose but my vet said most dogs tolerate them better than she did.

I am going to look in my cabinet and see if I have anything left over from Chama that I can send to Chey.

Re the Omegas: everything I've read says to avoid the liquid form as the air is not good for fatty acids.
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/10 10:00 PM

Has anyone used a bronchodilator on a dog with heartworm before? I would check into this more closely. Albuteral does come in liquid form, like a cough syrup.

When DD had gunk in her lungs from pneumonia/atylectisis (sp?) the bronchodilator opens the airways, allowing more gunk to move and sometimes making it harder for her to breathe because of the gunk moving thru her airways and more air able to get into her lungs.

The medicine also increases your heartrate. For a person with a normal, healthy heart it's not any big deal.

That's how it affects an asthmatic with pneumonia...so ask your vet how it will affect Chey. If the worms are dying off and moving into her lungs it could make it harder for her to breathe short-term until they are expelled or absorbed.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/10 10:53 PM

Mary Jane, a friend of mine had a GSD mix that suffered with heart failure for years, was on lasix (sp}. Her dad lived with them and was on oxygen, when her dog was having a rough day, she would get him to lay down and put the normal human oxygen tubes in his nose. That would help him for a few hours. Her dad saw her doing that he had Alzheimer he thought is was cute that the dog shared his oxygen, and he would have the dog sit buy him and put his oxygen on the dog.
Posted by: 4dognight

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/06/10 08:25 AM

MA remember gracie I pulled from coweta?She had a pulmonary infection and did horrible the first treatment The vet called some sort of HW specialty place (maybe one of the places you mentioned) I could ask her. Now gracie did not have the tumors that your sweet girl has but she was pretty advanced. Chey is just soooo lucky to have you. I think she is beautiful. Maybe try a vet school and see if they have new protocols?? Are you far from the U of PA??
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/06/10 11:14 AM

Today's update:
Well...she's become my shadow...
She has taken to following me everywhere...and laying at my feet when I'm on the computer (Ava's old spot). Ava came into the room last night...and Chey gave her a little snap (it was soooo unscarey...)and now Ava is deferring to her...staying away from the coveted spot that used to be hers. (that makes me kinda sad though) They still have no issues with eachother...I think it's just been established that there is yet again a Queen in the house...and Ava is still the princess. Any thoughts?
Chey jumped on the bed last night!! (I'll post pics later). I did let her stay a couple min....but for the long haul...I crated her for the night....two reasons...there is only room for one dog..(that's bad enough...lol)...and also Ava would have been the one yet again to defer...and ended up on the floor. Ava has always slept on the bed...and I hated to see her give up that. Ava needs to keep some of her rights...lol.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/06/10 11:50 AM

Ok..so I've coaxed Ava in...and she's under the computer..Chey on my side....we WILL have room for two here smile
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/06/10 03:21 PM

You know, I think Ava knows that Chey isn't well and she is being so kind and patient with her. So sweet.

I have NEVER had a dog like Cain to follow me around EVERY where I go. The poor dog can never get sleep during the day on week-ends. When I move, he moves. Maybe the "WGS" breed? Don't know.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/06/10 07:06 PM

Posted by: 4dognight

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/06/10 07:59 PM

poor Ava smile Chey is just beautiful and looks so happy on that bed!! Yes Ava needs to have some higher princess status she looks like " momma make her get off my bed!!"
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/06/10 08:20 PM

Ava is such a sweet, sweet girl... wub How wonderful is it that she shares not only her mom, but her bed! Love the pics MA - Chey looks very content... wub
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/06/10 09:06 PM

Cute story - Chey couldn't get off the bed..I was calling her...she was standing there crying...so it turned into a big production...me running for benches, step stools..anything to help her...
well..the kids ended up joining in...and Mary said..."wow..I didn't know this was going to be so exciting!"
rofl
hammer
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/06/10 09:08 PM

rofl Next time we'll add a trapeze artist for her.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/06/10 09:10 PM

spitcoffee
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/07/10 11:48 AM

rofl

Mary!

Boy that Cheyenne really likes the soft spots. So sweet.
Posted by: Chey & The Herd

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/07/10 12:10 PM

She's only 8? OMG! Rex will be 9 in July and you would think he was 3 by looking at him and his energy levels. No sign of aging in him at all yet. She looks like past dogs of ours at 13 or 14, poor girl.
Originally Posted By: myamom
aww...thanks guys. She looks sooo old in person...she obviously had a very tough life. She is only 8...but seems much older. Her breathing really concerns me...as it's not only on exersion..but on and off all the time....it gets very labored and loud at times....it's very sad (and I'll admit...scares me...and panics me a little)

She cowers when you pet her and doesn't like loud voices.

LOL...Kris..yes...Mary made pictures for her to cheer her up smile

Lifeasme- That was Ava's "MOM...enough with the old ladies...can't you find me someone to play with? geez..." look...lol
Ava tried playbowing...but no luck...lol...and Chey did give her a snap when she was running around too much. Another old lady reprimanding her...like Mya used to do. She's thinking..oh...no...not again...

But seriously...they like eachother..and give eachother kisses....they have both been gems!
Posted by: Chey & The Herd

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/07/10 12:15 PM

That looks like it could be Cheyenne in the stroller. wink
Originally Posted By: matsired
Thank you everyone...and Donna.....it's devastating...I wish I didn't see that "severe disease" description....it chills me.

Maryann,

I just read through the whole thread, and I commend you for stepping up for this sweet old dog. And I just love all the photos, especially the couch potato photos. Funny how they all seem to find the couch no matter what kind of background they come from.

I have taken on several old debilitated dogs like this, and find it takes time to sort through all the issues and come up with a plan.

Here are some thoughts popping into my head as I was reading along.

-Although Granny Chey is chronologically 8 years old, her medical problems probably make her biologically older. Not sure if vets have some sort of tool for inputing data to figure out how 'old' a dog really is, but this would help when trying to figure out how many projected years she has left if you choose an aggressive course of action for her medical issues.

-She seems to have at least one, probably two, major medical problems. The heartworm seems to be the bigger more acute issue at the moment.

Some questions I'd be asking the vet:

-What is it going to take to work up and then treat the heartworm, if possible? Will there be many tests (xrays, echos, ekgs, etc)? Approximately how much time and how often will she be spending with vets? Approximately how much will it cost in the end? WHAT TYPE OF DISCOMFORT WILL BE INVOLVED? WHAT ARE HER CHANCES OF FULL RECOVERY?

-What is it going to take to work up the mammary tumors? If cancerous, what is the course of treatment? How much will it cost? WHAT TYPE OF DISCOMFORT WILL BE INVOLVED? WHAT ARE HER CHANCES OF REMISSION, AND STATISTICALLY, WHAT ARE CHANCES OF RELAPSE AND WHEN?

Once I had all my data compiled, then I could make an informed decision on which way to go.

Once I decided to transition to hospice care, then all financial resources would INSTEAD be used to keep her comfortable and maintain quality of life, utilizing least invasive measures possible. That would mean no more workups, and probably just drugs to control her symptoms, with very few trips to the vet. Symptom management would be the goal, with comfort the priority, even if this meant a shortened life.

Some ideas of comfort care:

-Granny has very little exercise tolerance due to her heart failure caused by heartworm disease. So how about a nice walk with the family in a dog stroller? Bet she'd love this!

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/pr...u=0034458000000




-Rubberback runner for the slippery floor

-Luxury orthopedic dog bed

-Other mobiles that would allow her to view the world without exerting herself, like bicycle croozer, wagon, sled, car rides, etc

-Professional grooming to help keep her skin healthy

I'm sure members here and the kids could have a field day dreaming up creative ideas to improve the quality of life for a dog who has little exercise tolerance, may be a little uncomfortable, etc. (I had a ball doing this for my hospice dog, Millie, who had incurable degenerative progressive disease).
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/07/10 07:37 PM

I just read through this whole thread.. wow.. what a special person you are for helping this little beauty!

I will keep looking for updates (and pictures!)!
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/07/10 07:58 PM

Can Donna's (MatsiRed's) list of helpful ideas to ease things for a senior become a sticky in the senior or health sections?

Sending good thoughts for Mary Ann and Cheyenne today. I love reading about her discovering new joys and her sweetness and enthusiasm. Prayers flowing out for Cheyenne's wellbeing!
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/07/10 09:25 PM

Gosh your family is great!

Cheyenne loves her life today-nobody can question that. It's really all any of us can ask for.

It's just so incredibly touching.

All the best to all of you,
MJ
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/09/10 11:14 AM

UPDATE
We just finished up 5 days on heart med and diuretic and I'm happy to say that Chey is breathing much better, smiling, and now has a bounce in her step smile I can't make a move without her...and she now trots after me...lol She has settled nicely into our routine and it feels like she has always been here. Totally a Mya girl...and will correct Ava when she gets rambunceous in Chey's eyes. But it's a motherly correction..nothing aggressive. Again, it's just like Mya. (Poor Ava...can't catch a break! Always someone here to put her in her place! LOL)

Have a call into my vet for discussion on how to proceed.
Posted by: Jason L

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/09/10 11:19 AM

Chey sounds like such a great girl! And a lucky one too to have you in her life.
Posted by: Shilohsmom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/09/10 12:09 PM

Thanks for the update. And thanks for entering her in the monthly photo contest-I hope she wins!!!
Posted by: Gigi

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/09/10 07:53 PM

Mary Ann, just saw the thread and know what a great home Chey has landed in. If this girl has a chance at a good life I know it is with you and your family. I am sure Ava is being a great sister, just look how good the two of them look on the couch and bed. Hope to talk to you soon

Gigi
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/09/10 08:06 PM

What a great update, good to hear that she is feeling better smile
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/09/10 08:23 PM

Mothering Ava...LOL

Posted by: shepnterrier

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/09/10 08:26 PM

Oh happy day! What great news. Being able to breathe well is such a gift. Thank you so much, Myamom.
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/09/10 09:57 PM

V. happy that she's breathing and feeling better and settling in so well!
Posted by: wsumner

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/09/10 10:34 PM

Ava is saying,"Can someone help me please? This old dog is driving me crazy!"
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/09/10 10:39 PM

yep...and also..
"I can't believe this is happening..tell me it isn't true....tell me it's just a dream"
rofl
Posted by: georgiapeachGSD

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/10/10 09:36 AM

she is such a sweet girl. and ava is precious!

i love looking at the WGSDs but all I think is GA red clay and how I could NEVER keep one clean! LOL!

Glad to hear the update! hope life continues to be beautiful for you all!
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/10/10 05:18 PM

Mary Ann, I'm so glad to hear good news. That's so sweet her mothering Ava and so glad Ava is tolerant of her. Do you notice more "shedding" of Chey than Ava? Boy, I sure do with Cain more than any other shep I've had.

I'll keep prayers coming her way.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/11/10 11:20 PM





Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/12/10 11:32 AM

They are so adorable together. Looks like my house - people get to sit on the floor! She looks good Mary Ann - and I know she's comfortable and feeling very loved and wanted at this point. Very happy for this beautiful girl!!
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/12/10 11:39 AM

awww...Ava keeps moving closer! smile Have you heard from the vet yet?
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/12/10 11:54 AM

Yes!
We started Heartguard today! She is also to continue on the heart meds and diuretic for two more weeks....at which time we have another appt. to discuss further plans. He did discuss the possibility of cycling in Doxy in conjunction with the heartguard...again..something we will discuss further at her appt.
We have another week on antibiotics for her skin...she is VERY itchy...not sure where to go from here with that. Will discuss at our appt.
Mammary gland tumors were discussed. Her only option for somewhat of a diagnosis would be a needle aspirate...which my vet said is not always very reliable and will usually say "could be..this...please send in a sample for biopsy". (I remember Mya with the lump we had a needle aspirate on which came back hemangiosarcoma...then biopsy came back benign tumor) She is not a candidate for biopsy. If her tumors are malignant..she is not a candidate for removal/treatment. If they are benign..we don't have to "do" anything. I think at this point the way to go with her is nutritionally/holistically...treat as though she has malignant cancer...and pray she doesn't. Actually my gut..and my vet's is that she may be benign...
Posted by: mychance

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/12/10 12:01 PM

Mary Ann - how wonderful to have happy news this morning!

Carol's Shasta is also flourishing. She spent three (3!) hours under anesthesia being spayed and having her lumps removed the other day. The vet said her uterus was full of cysts and she probably had multiple litters.

The young one may think these "old girls" wear the cranky-panties a few times too often, but the wisdom and simple joy for life and delight in their family is like a light shining from them.
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/12/10 12:10 PM

Glad to hear she's coming along so well!

I have some herbal stuff I could send you. One is for bronchial issues and the other is for cancer.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/12/10 12:19 PM

I'm so glad Shasta is doing so well smile

Ruth..I'm going to pm you smile

oh..and Cainsmoma...the white hair everywhere is U N B E L I E V A B L E!
Posted by: Shilohsmom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/12/10 01:00 PM

Originally Posted By: mychance


The young one may think these "old girls" wear the cranky-panties a few times too often, but the wisdom and simple joy for life and delight in their family is like a light shining from them.


I just love the way you put this!
Posted by: Shilohsmom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/12/10 01:03 PM

Mary Ann, so glad to hear she is doing well and begun Heartguard.
This little girl was truely meant to be part of your family.
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/14/10 10:35 PM

Hey! How are you fairing this weekend? Did you lose power? what does Chey think of this weather? Ava must be explaining it to her. LOL
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/19/10 05:40 PM

poke lurking
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/19/10 06:43 PM













Posted by: mychance

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/19/10 08:57 PM

Look at how happy she is! That's just the best thing to see.
Posted by: GSDTrain

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/20/10 10:20 AM

she looks soo happy!!
Posted by: shepnterrier

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/20/10 06:16 PM

Mary Ann, You and our family/pack did amazing work! It's heart warming to see this sweet dog so very happy. That's what it's all about, and you did it.
Sarah
Posted by: Gigi

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/20/10 09:10 PM

She looks so happy being with her new family. Just look how she fits in with the kids and sister Ava. Just shows what good loving can do.


Gigi
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/20/10 10:57 PM

She looks great!

I don't know if this will make sense, but...about 10 years ago my aunt had a heart attack. They said she couldn't have surgery because she was too fragile. A year later, they re-evaluated and she was able to have quadruple bypass and is like...92 now I think. wub SO...you never know!
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/20/10 10:57 PM

Oh Mary Ann, you and your family have just been the best family that Chey could have ever gotten......you guys are just the best. Thanks for saving such a sweet baby girl smile Such great pictures.
Posted by: Arlene

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/20/10 11:13 PM

Those videos bought tears to my eyes...fantastic work... Chey is one special lady smile
Posted by: PositiveDog

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/21/10 11:06 AM

What a difference from granny Chey in the first photos to these videos! Cheyenne needed a family and she sure has one now.

How great to see her exploring and enjoying her life.

You and your family are great. Thank you.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/22/10 12:12 PM

What a wonderful family Cheyenne joined!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/22/10 02:01 PM

Gosh...thank you guys...it IS an amazing transformation isn't it? Funny...my routine is to take Ava with me to go pick up the kids from school. Chey would watch us leave from her spot on the couch...now she's running after us and coming for the ride...lol.
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/22/10 02:06 PM

I knew your home would be the perfect place for her! Can't wait to get down to meet her!
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/22/10 02:12 PM

It's paradise for kids and dogs there! She looks so much happier and healthier! So cute that she wants to go in the car to pick up her kids... wub
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/24/10 03:26 PM

Update - Today's vet appt.

Cheyenne's heart and lungs are sounding so much better! Her breathing is dramatically improved and she rarely coughs. She is going to start doxycyclene (sp?) in conjunction with the heartguard...two weeks...if still doing good...another four weeks. She is to stay on heart meds and use diuretic at my discretion (play with the dosage according to how she is feeling...weather...etc)
Skin - he doesn't want to give her additional meds for her skin...(she is done with the cephalexan)...and thinks she doesn't look that bad...and that doxy should help that as well.
Will start giving her Gluc/Chondroiten for her hips.
Mammary tumors have not changed.
Will follow up in a month. Vet was happy with her progress smile
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/24/10 03:33 PM

hey!! I need your address to send you that gluc/chon if you want unless you ordered some already or I can meet you half way...some place as last time we met.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/24/10 03:39 PM

Mary Ann, that is a great update for Cheyenne. Hopefully she keeps truckin on and making progress. She has made such great strides since she came to you.

Keep up the good work you two. goodjob
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/25/10 11:49 AM

Hey...Chey barked for the first time today!! And it was at my MIL!! I LOVE this girl! rofl
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/25/10 01:12 PM

Mary Ann, too funny.
Posted by: GrandJan

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/25/10 01:13 PM

You are in big trouble now - two Grande Dames in the same house will never work!!! rofl2

Guess Chey told her who Number One is, huh! goodjob
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/25/10 04:43 PM

Those videos made me smile so big!!!

Look at that difference!

She looks so happy to be apart of the family and to have the kids running around.. ahh.. makes me so happy for her!

Great news about the vet visit too!
Posted by: gsdlove212

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/01/10 08:19 PM

wub
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/02/10 10:34 AM

Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/02/10 11:05 AM

And now we know why Chey's skin is getting better-she has a personal esthetician. This sweet girl found heaven on earth with Mary Ann and her wonderful family.

You surely have a lot to do to maintain such a great household-but when you can, please post pictures-Cheyenne's pleasure is contagious.

Thank you.

Mary Jane
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/02/10 04:47 PM

This is wonderful wub

I saw this on another board, thought of you guys. I'll just pass it along in case there is anything of interest:

http://www.ourdogsonline.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/254227/Keagan_finally_heartworm_free_#Post254227
http://www.banditsbuddies.com/
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/02/10 07:06 PM

I can tell from the picture Mary Ann that you son is being ever so gentle with the rake so not to hurt any sore spots she has. What a great picture.

Val
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/02/10 07:15 PM

I noticed that too, about the gentleness smile
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/03/10 01:06 AM

That photo is so sweet... her own personal groomer! wink
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/03/10 12:36 PM

Such a careful, gentle boy.. such a careful, gentle dog. That picture of loving trust, with both of them being so very dear and sweet in the glowing sunshine, is a framer!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/03/10 03:04 PM






HAPPY EASTER,
LOVE GRANNY CHEYENNE
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/03/10 03:06 PM






HAPPY EASTER,
LOVE, PRINCESS AVA
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/03/10 03:10 PM

Oh my gosh - they look beautiful! wub That picture of Cheyenne - it just brought tears to my eyes to know what a wonder life she now has. I know for a fact that she never had an Easter outfit before! Ava is her usual gorgeous self! These pics are adorable, Mary Ann!
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/03/10 03:14 PM

She looks wonderful!!!!!!!! I haven't forgotten about her (or sending her stuff) but I have been slammed with work lately. Will put stuff in the mail next week!!!!!

Big hugs from me and kisses from Rafi!
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/03/10 07:39 PM

ohhhh...the indignity..there better be biscuits in this for me. rofl

Originally Posted By: myamom





HAPPY EASTER,
LOVE GRANNY CHEYENNE
Posted by: GrandJan

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/03/10 11:24 PM

The Easter picture will stay in our hearts forever. hugging
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/04/10 04:23 PM

Honestly, this thread makes me tear up every time I read it.

The pictures of Cheyenne just make me smile.

Look at how happy she is in her new home.. you are an amazing family to care for her the way you guys are.

Happy Easter to your family both skinned and furry!
Posted by: gsdlove212

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/04/10 09:02 PM

wub That Easter pic is priceless! What a happy old gal! She is so lucky to have you!
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/05/10 01:27 PM

Oh Mary Ann......those pics are just to cute!!! Chey just looks so great. You and your family are just the best!
Posted by: georgiapeachGSD

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/06/10 01:08 AM

LOL chey and ava are so flipping cute in their easter wear! Love them!
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/07/10 09:17 AM

And Chey is a GA girl!

I have come back each day to look at that picture of your son with her. It is one of those photos that soothes all the sadness of the dogs not as lucky as Chey.

And the Easter pics are pretty awesome too. Did you ever tell the Ava/George Costanza fire story?
Posted by: matsired

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/07/10 10:24 PM

Maryann, I've been stopping in periodically to follow story of Chey. I'm glad to see she is doing so well. The photo with your son is endearing and the one with the Easter hat, hilarious. Actually, the hat looks like it was designed just for her.

Another senior turned around by love. Sounds so simple. It is.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/09/10 09:33 PM

Thank you so much everyone for your kind words and support! Cheyenne continues to do extremely well...she has spunk now....a bounce in her step and has become extremely playful. She's even playful mouthy...which surprised me in a dog of her age and health..lol.

Going up steps are a little tough for her..it's one or two steps at a time and a pause...but other than that...she's great...has no problem jumping in the truck..on the couch...bed...lol.

Ava and her have become quite good friends..now laying together...playing together...pretty unseparable. Ava was very sad when we lost our Mya and starting having alot of insecurities..but they are all gone. My husband remarked the other day how much Ava had changed recently...and I reminded him that she had a buddy to lean on again.

She is truly a joy to have here.
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/09/10 10:16 PM

Quote:
She is truly a joy to have here.


And it is a joy to read about her new life with you and your family, Mary Ann. I know it's been quite an experience for you as an adult, but what your children are learning from this is priceless. I will never ever forget the picture of your son so gently brushing her, or the pictures your daughter hung in her crate, or the Easter hat...

Wishing you all many, many happy years together!!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/10/10 04:35 PM

Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/11/10 07:36 PM



(can you tell who's in charge? lol)
Posted by: GrandJan

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/11/10 07:51 PM

Princess Ava has a healthy respect for the senior lady - an admirable quality! wink
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/11/10 07:59 PM

ooooh!! I like that Jan!! You're right smile
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/11/10 08:03 PM

That is the same dog - no way!!! poke Mary Ann, she looks ten years younger since you've had her. Her coat looks great and she has ATTITUDE! Ava - what a sweet girl to let Chey take her toy. wub

Love these updates - she's obviously thriving!! Keep the pics coming!
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/11/10 08:05 PM

Fannnnnntabulous!!! smile
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/11/10 08:08 PM

Wow...really? Thank you..it's hard to see change when you see them all the time. Her coat / skin has a long way to go..but I'm so happy to hear you think she looks better.
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/11/10 09:17 PM

She looks AMAZING... WOW... Honestly, she looks like a different dog!!!

So happy now... you are such a great person Mary Ann! All that you have done for her - you can see how happy she is... wow.. just amazing.

I love the updates, please keep them coming. I look for them all the time. smile
Posted by: PositiveDog

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/11/10 09:36 PM

There's Chey! So happy to see her and she is having so much fun! Lucky dog! Great family!
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/11/10 09:37 PM

She looks much better physically, but it's the look in her eyes where I see the largest difference. She looks happy and enthused - amazing what a little love with do (or in your case - a LOT of love)!
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/11/10 09:49 PM

I agree with all of the above, she is looking so much better, and what a great attitude and spirit that has come out!!

I had to laugh at Ava, she is a bit of a cheerleader, much like Indy - the barker, and will run along and let Chey pick up the ball and escort her back wub
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/12/10 02:43 PM

Mary Ann I see the difference also. She isn't a down trodden dog, she has pep and wants to live. I think that will go a long way in battling some of her health issues, she isn't giving up. Cheyenne found a family that loves her and sweet Ava who say's OK old lady have it your way and she isn't ready to let that go any sooner than she has to.

Val
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/13/10 12:16 PM

Mary Ann, Chey looks 200% better! What an about face she has done since you first posted her. She has you as an angel to look over her. Good job girl!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/14/10 06:03 PM



Posted by: georgiapeachGSD

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/14/10 06:09 PM

wow!!! has she re-grown a lot of hair? she seems woolier than when i seen her in person! The one by the river is a framer for sure!
Posted by: Jason L

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/14/10 06:16 PM

Wow is right! She looks great now!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/14/10 06:40 PM

more...it was a picture kind of day...lol

I don't know? You guys think she has more hair? It's hard to see change when you see something every day...lol



Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/14/10 06:43 PM

Mary Ann, she looks beautiful! She knows how very fortunate she truly is. More fluffy? She just might be! She looks wonderful. Such a lucky, lucky girl she is! Thank you for the pictures. She truly is stunning!
Posted by: georgiapeachGSD

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/14/10 06:43 PM

yes to me her hair looks thicker, longer, and plusher than when I seen her last. She looks stunning, like she is reversing in age a little!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/14/10 06:56 PM

Thanks! Did you notice her "squares" though? lol
The shaved areas where she had HW shots have not really grown in at all...and that's around 3 months. Is that normal? And still no butt fluff...but hopefully as her coat improves..it will come back.

But personality wise...whoa...she's acting like a kid. She really doesn't know when enough is enough...you would think in her condition...she would lay down or sit down...but no. I always have to decide when enough is enough...lol.
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/14/10 07:02 PM

Don't worry about the shaved areas Mary Ann, my last senior Chell had some shaved spots on his thigh for a cyst removal. It took a good solid 5 months for it to fill back in with fluff! I think seniors just take longer. And she honestly looks like she is FEELING good! No wonder she's kinda spunky, even in her condition! smile She is getting ideal care. smile
Posted by: Gigi

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/14/10 07:38 PM

She looks wonderfull.. Just look at the big smile in the last picture. I think her smile is telling everyone how happy she is with her new family. Could this be a foster failure ?


Gigi
Posted by: georgiapeachGSD

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/14/10 07:49 PM

i have no experience with the HW treatment shots, so I cant help you there, but I love seeing how happy she is and how amazingly healthy she looks. Job well done!!
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/14/10 09:58 PM

I had a sheltie mix before Murphy who I decided to shave one summer (stupid in some respects - good in another). Poor dog, she looked like a beach ball. She was embarrassed and I was embarrassed when I saw how chunky she was under all the fur. Her hair just would not grow back. About three months into it, I took her to the vet and they ran a thyroid test. Sure enough, her thyroid was off. Once they got her on the meds (they were cheap), she lost weight and her hair grew back. She was on the meds for over 10 years and died of old age (nearly 17), not anything related to her thyroid.

Might be worth having Chey's tested if you haven't already. I would think the hair would have grown in quite a bit by now. Geesh...always something' isn't it!

I still think she looks 100% better since she's been with you!
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/14/10 10:19 PM

Originally Posted By: georgiapeachGSD
yes to me her hair looks thicker, longer, and plusher than when I seen her last. She looks stunning, like she is reversing in age a little!


I totally agree with this.

She looks amazing compared to the first set of photo's we saw.

What a wonderful life she has now, you can see it in her eyes and face!
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/14/10 10:20 PM

Here you go Mary Ann... Picture Comparison


Before



Now
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/14/10 11:24 PM

OMG......SHE IS BEAUTIFUL!!! I'm not going to show Cain her
picture.........he might leave me for her! laugh
Posted by: georgiapeachGSD

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/15/10 09:10 AM

thanks Val...that deffinately helped! I love her, she is so sweet.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/15/10 09:30 AM

Cain and Cheyenne would make a beautiful couple...LOL!!

Kris...Cheyenne has a staph infection...maybe that is the reason her hair doesn't grow in fast? Patty...your post gave me hope..lol. She has no weight issue...so can you still have a thyroid issue? She is big chested...so maybe the pictures are deceiving...but she is thin...I monitor her weight very carefully due to her bad hips. Could you have a thyroid issuse with no weight issue?

GiGi...she is a hospice foster...my goal is to make up for her past and give her the best life for however long she has. I can't wait for the summer...to take her to the lake...swimming...on the boat smile

And I need to say again..Thank you to Molly of Southern Cross and wsumner...for seeing the worth and beauty in this old girl...and taking her into their rescue.

I've never compared the old pics and the new pics..but seeing them next to eachother...shows how much having a family that loves her has changed her. It's so sad that there are so many out there that need this...I wish that for every dog...a family to love them.

Thank you everyone for your kind words...they mean so much!
hugging

oh...cute story! I have a mean kitty that has been in self imposed exhile for the last...oh...13 years. Can't stand the dogs (or most people for that matter..lol) We were sitting in the living room the other day and look over and there is Baby kitty...out of hiding...rubbing all over Cheyenne...and Cheyenne kissing her. We were stunned. Baby kitty sensed something special about Cheyenne...
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/15/10 11:41 AM

Quote:
She has no weight issue...so can you still have a thyroid issue?


Probably not. I think they get heavy with a thyroid issue, so you're right - it's probably the staph.

Those pictures side-by-side really show how far she has come!

Baby kitty loves Cheyenne?? That's pretty incredible that after all of these years of not liking the dogs she chooses Chey. I have a kitty who did the same. She doesn't like the other cats, could take or leave me and DH, and until recently hid from Sammy. But she adores Murphy, follows her everywhere and will curl up next to her for a nap. It is so adorable...
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/15/10 11:56 AM

Mary Ann,

I can't thank you enough for the Cheyenne updates. Even for a person without much dog experience it's amazingly clear how happy she is. Her blossoming in your family took my terrible mood and turned it into hope. That happens every time I see Cheyenne posts (oops, my mood is not always so low).

Happy Thursday, everyone!
MJ
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/15/10 12:09 PM

Mary Ann, I'm with MJ. Cheyenne posts make me feel optimistic and hopeful! Look at her flourishing and thriving under your loving care. What an inspiration!
Posted by: Woodreb

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/15/10 01:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Kris
Quote:
She has no weight issue...so can you still have a thyroid issue?


Probably not. I think they get heavy with a thyroid issue, so you're right - it's probably the staph.

Those pictures side-by-side really show how far she has come!

Baby kitty loves Cheyenne?? That's pretty incredible that after all of these years of not liking the dogs she chooses Chey. I have a kitty who did the same. She doesn't like the other cats, could take or leave me and DH, and until recently hid from Sammy. But she adores Murphy, follows her everywhere and will curl up next to her for a nap. It is so adorable...


I think you can have some degree of thyroid problem without having a weight issue. My Rica had no weight problems but turned out to have low thyroid, requiring meds for the last year and 1/2 of her life.
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/15/10 02:24 PM

Johanna - that's interesting. See - we learn something every day! Thanks for that info...
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/15/10 03:28 PM

Neither of mine were overweight when their thyroid problem was diagnosed and treatment started.

Max in fact was underweight, but I caught him early in his thyroid dysfunction.

Those before and after pics are amaxing wub
Posted by: Woodreb

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/15/10 04:57 PM

I just had a senior panel done on Aodhán to get a baseline since she recently turned 8. She is a little low on her thyroid values and weighs in at about 73 pounds, which is pretty optimal for her.

Cheyenne is a beautiful girl and she looks very happy with you. wub
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/21/10 04:51 PM

Vet recheck

Heart is stable.
Some fluid heard in her lungs and diuretic has been upped a bit. Will be rechecked in two weeks.

But my major concern at present is her mammary tumors. One is very large and has grown since our last appt. Dr. said it is going to eventually rupture frown
Right now..I fear her mammary tumors the most.
Are there any natural supplements I can give that will slow the progression?

(she has gone through a mammary gland rupture before I got her...it was very painful for her...and luckily antibiotics and painkillers got her through it...but it breaks my heart to think this will continue..if there is anything I can do to at least slow it down... )
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/21/10 11:51 PM

and on a lighter note....EEEEEEEK...I almost DIED when I found....THIS!!!





Too cute for words smile
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/22/10 12:18 AM

They're havin' a cuteness attack!! wub wub They even look mischieviously smug about it! angel angel
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/22/10 01:23 AM

Oh my goodness, that picture is just amazingly cute wub

For the mammary tumor, I would think maybe the IP6, and the flaxseed oil and cottage cheese protocol? I don't know what the optimal supplements would be?
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/22/10 01:34 AM

Ok, I still haven't gotten around to sending that Essiac Tea stuff but I don't think you want that because if it works it causes tumors to grow first (and sometimes a lot, I understand) before they start to shrink.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/22/10 02:47 PM

Oh my gosh Mary Ann, the two of them in the crate. So nice that they can share.

Val
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/22/10 03:20 PM

rofl Ava looks all proud of herself and Granny Chey is like "Mom...really? Really?"
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/07/10 10:18 AM

Recheck update

So...Cheyenne had a recheck yesterday:

Her mammary tumor has increased yet again...and is now hot to the touch. Rupture is probably inevidable. I asked about aspirating or lancing but they don't do that for this. As far as surgery, she would have a 50/50 chance of survival and my vet said that even surviving this could send her into a downward spiral. Given the fact that right now she has a good quality of life...and coupled with the fact that her heart condition is so unstable right now...he would not do it. Surgery in the future is not totally ruled out if her heart condition improves.

I have been prepared on how to deal with the rupture when/if the time comes.

Her breathing has become more labored due to the onset of the hot weather..so an additional heart med has been added to get her stabalized (do not want to up the diuretic due to side affects). Dr. said that usually after they acclimate...they do well...so it's more a matter of getting her adjusted to this change right now.

Her heart murmur has increased by a stage. (Does anyone know why heart murmurs advance? Is it due to the stress on her heart.due to the heat?)

Blood test showed no real change in HW status (I was very disappointed...can anyone that has done slow kill tell me how long before they saw any change?)

Recheck in one month.

On a lighter note...she is very happy and comfortable.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/07/10 12:17 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom
Recheck update
.....lots of scary stuff about Cheyenne's many ailments

Originally Posted By: myamom
..she is very happy and comfortable.


And that's what counts. For Cheyenne's comfort and joy, we all have you and your wonderful family to thank.

MJ
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/07/10 02:00 PM

Thank you for caring for this wonderful lady.

She is happy, safe and loved... in the end.. that's all that counts.
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/07/10 04:27 PM

I can only begin to understand how stressful it is for your heart to hear scary news. To me, it sounds as if Chey is glorying in the special attention, extra tender loving care and outright spoiling that she receives. She can feel your love beaming to her. Chey knows how very fortunate she is!
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/07/10 10:24 PM

Mary Ann, I hope that she has some time with you yet. She has a lot of love to absorb before she leaves. Hugs to all of your family.
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/12/10 04:48 PM

Oh Mary Ann I was so hoping for some better news. YOU have improved her life 200% since you have had her and now she knows what being loved means. I praise you and your wonderful family for such kindness. Cain said he wants to see more pictures of her please smile
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/13/10 01:58 AM

However long she has with you, it has been such a gift. You are doing great work with her.

Warm compress soaked in green tea is what some recommend for mast cell tumors. I wonder what it would do for a mammary tumor? Did the vet give any advice in the case of rupture?

I am not sure I know a lot about the heart stuff. But....heart murmurs can increase for a couple of reasons. Sometimes it's human variability in how they listen or place their stethoscope. That's the best case option. Then they increase in murmur because they get "leakier", the valves have a harder time controlling how much blood gets through and when, and lets blood leak through at the wrong times (I think). Indy's murmur is stage IV of VI. Where is Cheyenne at?

I think murmurs can get worse just from wear and tear, or infection, or a basic structural problem (autoimmune problems, maybe serotonin issue, etc. still a subject of research). Indy's murmur initially got better when she was on antibiotics way back when.


Does the heartworm status bloodwork test antibodies or what?
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/14/10 04:44 AM

hi mary ann, i've been thinking about cheyenne today, have just been so totally wrapped up with complications from caesar's surgery and all of that...but i'm thinking of you and hoping for all good things for chey and more time with her for you. i'll be in touch soon.
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/14/10 10:17 AM

For the murmur it's not so much the # but the cause, that's what I was told. So a dog with a 2 could have worse outcomes than a dog with a 4. Double check on that!

For her breathing, I like to have a fan on me circulating the air right near me when it gets hot/humid. It helps a lot.

I also think, when it gets really hot, ice packs or ice vest type thing - not directly on her, not for huge lengths of time, but that helps too.

As always I suggest DMG. smile
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/14/10 02:27 PM

My vet told me that it was too soon to see a change in hw status. Checked with a vet down south that does this day in and day out...and he too said it's too early to see change....so whew.
I had my vet do a blood smear which checks the microfalaria (babies) which were still high...was disappointed...but glad now to know this is to be expected. So...we'll just keep plodding along.

I too was wondering if compresses will help on her tumor.

I don't know what stage Cheyenne's heart murmur is...just that the Dr. said it went up a stage from the last time he checked it. I'm wondering if it was due to more strain on her heart due to the change in weather? I will discuss at next visit.

As far as what to do when she has her rupture...antiobiotics to ward off infection...pain killers...and a t-shirt with padding to deal with the drainage...and lots of praying.

Jean..what is DMG?
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/14/10 05:45 PM

p.s. Cain...I'll take more pics soon...lol
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/14/10 09:21 PM

myamom, there are some links about the DMG in the supplement thread in the Health Index. I'm running out of the office now, can't look them up myself for you.

She might feel better if it ruptures? At least after a bit?
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/14/10 11:41 PM

The fear with the rupture is that the dog dies of mass infection...in most istances it never even seals up and even gangarene sets in. Cheyenne has already endured a rupture once before (before I got her) and survived and it did heal up. It was not pretty and the pain was bad..but she did ok with painkillers.
I guess the saddest thing is...will this be a continuous cycle? I could even be ok with that...but we don't know...does she have malignant cancer?
she does have other tumors beside the one about to rupture...

so many questions...unfortunately...no way to get answers presently.
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/15/10 04:28 AM

Wow, truly an unknown.

Whatever happens, I'm confident that you'll find the best path - you have done so well so far. Hopefully we'll think of something if that happens.
Posted by: PositiveDog

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/15/10 09:48 PM

I am so sorry Chey is having these difficulties. I know you are most likely worried about how your kids will take her illness and loss.

I think all of you have given her so much of a good life that she would never had. Hugs to you, your family and Chey.

I hope she has many good days and more good memories for you. hugging
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/15/10 10:19 PM

Sending strength and positive energy Chey's way and to you and your family as well. Whatever happens, however things play out, sweet, darling Chey is one of the most well-loved dogs.. and she knows how very fortunate she is.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/16/10 10:52 AM

myamom, I hope that Cheyenne has some good time left in her life to soak up all that love that you and your family give her. She has rallied so much since you got her and every day she has love and a great place. I know it is hard on you, but some times we can only play with the cards that are dealt to us, we don't get to draw new cards. I bet if Cheyenne could talk she would tell you she hit the Royal Flush:
Ace: an Ace of a place to live
King: the kind human dad
Queen: the loving human mom
Jack: the loving son
10: Ten times better than she even dreamed about.

Hugs to all of you.
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/18/10 04:21 PM

checking in on chey, hugs to her and to you too mary ann!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/20/10 05:26 PM

Cheyenne sends her love and says she's having the time of her life. smile

Today finally being a beautiful 80's day...my son Christopher and I took the girls to the park. They had a ball playing and getting dirty.....although neither one will go past their legs in the water...lol.

oh..and Cheyenne is uh...not very white right now...lol.















Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/20/10 07:54 PM

Mary Ann, your darling dear son, two sweet dogs, sunshine, the pond, and fresh air. Joyous all around! Chey looks fantastic-- and so loved in her family. I lopve seeing Chey thrive and feel so happy and free. You are doing an amazing job with her. These pictures made my day. Thank you!
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/20/10 09:50 PM

Looks like a good day was had by all. Thanks for sharing the nice warm sunny day with us.
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/20/10 10:32 PM

Your son is such a great kid!

You can see the love he has for those furry puppers!

Chey is looking good and so is Ava!

They had a blast! Love seeing these two!
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/20/10 10:58 PM

oh my gosh, how INCREDIBLY WONDERFUL this is. here we thought cheyenne was going to hospice and instead she went to HEAVEN!!!
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/20/10 11:41 PM

WOW!!!!! You have no idea how big the smile is on my face right now. Thanks so much again for adopting Cheyenne and giving her such a wonderful life. She is positively glowing...and your son is a doll. wub

I bet both dogs sleep well tonight!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/02/10 04:38 PM

Today's vet appointment:

The first thing the vet and his tech exclaimed when they walked in the room...."WOW...Look at her coat! She looks GREAT!" ..THEN...."Look at her...she's so spunky! And her eyes have a sparkle! She's like a new dog!" smile

Mammary tumor has not enlarged/changed. Another blood smear was done...and there was a significant decrease in "babies" by about half!

What a great day! Photo contest winner...great vet appt!
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/02/10 04:51 PM

Yay!!! What wonderful news! Where ya been???
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/02/10 05:01 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom
.... her eyes have a sparkle! She's like a new dog!" smile ...

What a great day!


The explanation is YOU (your great family)

Cheyenne-this is your place.

MJ
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/02/10 08:50 PM

Superb! Great news from the vet. So glad that she is doing so great - wonderful job to you and your family!!
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/02/10 08:52 PM

Forgot to ask, are you doing anything in particular for the mammary tumor? For the HW, you're doing preventative and doxy, right?
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/02/10 09:11 PM

We're on our break from the doxy now. Just doing heartguard right now.

Nothing for the mammary tumor...open to holistic suggestions smile

(she is still on two different heart meds and a diuretic...and with the onset of the heat...it's tough on her heart/breathing...so she is still in no way a candidate for biopsy, surgery, etc. for the mammary tumor)
Posted by: PositiveDog

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/02/10 09:16 PM

Great news for the Photo Queen. What a good update. I hope she keeps that sparkle for a long time yet!
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/03/10 12:55 AM

Originally Posted By: myamom
We're on our break from the doxy now. Just doing heartguard right now.

Nothing for the mammary tumor...open to holistic suggestions smile

(she is still on two different heart meds and a diuretic...and with the onset of the heat...it's tough on her heart/breathing...so she is still in no way a candidate for biopsy, surgery, etc. for the mammary tumor)


I'm not sure I would go on a break from the doxy. It can inhibit blood vessel formation that feeds tumors, that might be an important part of the treatment and why the tumors haven't grown. (Doxy can also be used in hemangiosarcoma for that reason.) Just so you can be aware and watch for any changes with the stop. It will take awhile probably for the doxy effect to wear off, so you might not make the association.

I guess the best bet for mammary tumors would be flax oil and cottage cheese (budwig diet) and the IP6.
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/03/10 01:05 AM

We love you, sweet, precious Cheyenne! Mary Ann, she is a treasure, and you are an angel for all the care and love and joy you have given her. She loves her family, friends, and life with you. I wish that I had medical advice, but I do wish to offer this: (((Hugs))). We love Cheyenne!
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/03/10 03:17 PM

What a great report! Like Patti, I have no medical advice but I wanted to say that you and your family are amazing. Truely amazing.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/03/10 04:18 PM

Thank you so much guys hugging

Lisa...gosh..I'll have to talk to the vet...I know with hw treatment you are supposed to take a break...it's unfortunate we have two major issues going on here.

Lifeasme...I think I was taking a little mental break...lol..but I'm back smile
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/03/10 05:40 PM

I just threw that out there, you guys are doing great.

Breaks are good laugh
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/07/10 03:29 PM

(this is like a journal for me...so bear with me when I post little things smile )


Took Cheyenne to the pet expo on Saturday. You would not believe all the people that stopped me to express how beautiful Cheyenne was! There were also a few rescues there that had seen her a few weeks ago at the last event...and they could not believe the transformation smile
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/07/10 03:51 PM

Mary Ann,

Any time that you can spare from your great family (people + dogs) to write about Cheyenne is a gift to many of us here.

Transformation is the right word or maybe rebirth.

thank you,
Mary Jane
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/07/10 05:41 PM

wub
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/07/10 06:25 PM

Mary Ann - please don't ever stop posting even the tiniest of details. I love reading these updates!

What a wonderful life Chey is living!! We DO need updated pics though!
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/07/10 06:50 PM

Hahaha.. I agree.. pictures are needed!

I too look for updates about Chey.. I love hearing how she is doing. She's a star after all! smile
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/07/10 07:25 PM

Ok guys...went out and took some just for you!!

DRUM ROLL PLEASE............










Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/07/10 08:26 PM

Wow...Can I just say...WOW! She does not look like the same dog! She looks wonderful!
Posted by: wsumner

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/07/10 10:34 PM

She is gorgeous!! I can tell she loves Mary..ty Myamom and family. angel
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/08/10 01:58 AM

oh wow, oh wow, oh wow, oh wow, OH WOW!!!!!!!!

amazing, positively amazing. mary ann, is it possible for you to send me the original file of the last picture of chey and mary, as an attachment to an e-mail to nallphoto@aol.com?
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/08/10 02:56 AM

sorry just couldn't wait for the larger file...a little bit of magic...

Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/08/10 01:15 PM

Wow...... amazing!!!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/09/10 09:25 AM

That picture is beautiful! Thank you so much!! Can you email it to me smile
Posted by: DaisyShadow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/09/10 02:24 PM

Wow! Look what you have been doing the last 3 months. I have not been around here...so must catch up on the whole 25 page thread.
But she looks beautiful. Good to see you are still fighting the good fight!
I have missed you!
Bless you for all you have done for Cheynne!
Posted by: Lexi

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/09/10 03:10 PM

Originally Posted By: katieliz
sorry just couldn't wait for the larger file...a little bit of magic...



My eyes just started watering for some reason when I saw this stunning, beautiful photo... They are beautiful! wub
Posted by: Karin

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/09/10 03:33 PM

Oh my gosh!!! That picture is wonderful! wub Thank you for helping this sweet girl and giving her a new lease on life!
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/09/10 07:21 PM

Mary Ann, thank you so much for taking care of Cheyenne. She has made such great strides, let's hope she has a lot of quality time with you and your family.
Posted by: PositiveDog

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/09/10 10:57 PM

It's possible to smile and cry at the same time.

Beautiful!
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/09/10 11:07 PM

It's a beautiful photoshop creation, illustrating how she is glowing from the inside wub

I flip-flop though, part of me much prefers the non-touched photo.

In both though, her eyes are just marvelous wub



Posted by: Crooked Creek

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/09/10 11:14 PM

The picture that says a thousand words.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/18/10 11:29 AM

So life takes alot of twists and turns. My husband hadn't been feeling himself for quite a while. Last week it started escalating...until one day he went to his Dr. (chest pains, tingling in arms, tunnel vision, etc) His blood pressure was through the roof..and he was immediately put in an ambulance and rushed to the hospital. He was admitted for a few days and had lots of tests done. Thankfully he had not had a heart attack, no blockages were found, etc. He is now home...and feeling better. Of course..there are lots of meds to take..and change of lifestyle. So..now we have two heart patients that can grow stronger together.

Here are a quick few pictures. My kids and I decided to find some trails that we can all walk together...a family fitness routine. This is the best little secret...there is a new park by us and we didn't realize that in the woods are beautiful trails that just go forever............























Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/18/10 11:35 AM

^the last pic above...I think would be stunning cropped or edges blurred...there's just something about it! (and we don't need to see goofy Ava pulling my son...lol)


This picture...so pretty..and then Ava again...she cracks me up ......

Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/18/10 11:39 AM

and yes...Mary had to make sure she and Cheyenne matched for their walk...lol
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/18/10 11:46 AM

Ava is a photobomber!

I am truly sorry about your husband but very glad it was addressed quickly and well. Did they say what was wrong? I have a lot of links for stuff if you want them. hugging
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/18/10 11:53 AM

She's like the guy in the red shirt! No matter how I tried for the perfect pic...there she was!

Major high blood pressure...so definite changes in lifestyle are in order...eating, etc. They said he would have had a heart attack or stroke if he hadn't gone when he did.
(hmmm...wonder if he would like TOTW?? Seemed to do wonders for Cheyenne!)
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/18/10 11:59 AM

I wish we could eat dog food! Or if they made kibble for humans...do they?

Yikes. So scary.

She is - ha - I hated him! wink They have a photobomb website: http://cheezburger.com/sites
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/18/10 12:12 PM

Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/18/10 12:20 PM

What a wonderful family you have... These photo's need to be on some sort of GSD and kids poster!
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/18/10 05:15 PM

Mary Ann, these pictures are so sweet, gentle, and overflowing with a timeless serenity and warmth. The loving flowing between the dogs and children is a treasure beyond compare. I'm so thankful that you're here, Mary Ann, and sharing your family with us... especially darling beautiful Miss Cheyenne!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/18/10 10:16 PM

Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/18/10 10:46 PM

Oh my gosh Mary Ann - that picture is just gorgeous! Your girls are beautiful - I really don't have any words to express how moving that photo is...
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/22/10 04:10 PM

OH MY GOODNESS MARY ANN...........I can't believe how beautiful Chey looks. I'm not showing these to Cain, he might run away to try to find her lol

Your photos are just gorgeous and your children are just precious and really take care of Ava & Chey. You have done a great job in the dog & children department smile

Hope your hubby gets to feeling better soon.
Posted by: Kuklamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/25/10 09:01 PM

Thank you, Mary Ann, for posting the pictures of lovely Cheyenne, your beautiful daughter, and your handsome son.

You have truly been blessed with terrific maternal skills--and you have used them so well!

Honestly, I turn to this thread whenever I need a "happiness" break in the day!

Thank you for being such a wonderful mother and wife, a loyal friend, and a life-saving rescuer.

(Please tell your dear husband that we are all sending our good thoughts and prayers for his good health.)
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/28/10 03:02 AM

mary ann, i am a few days behind here, have only been on hit and miss, just saw this tonight. i am so sorry to hear about your husband and send all good thoughts and wishes his way for a speedy and complete recovery. these pictures are just beautiful, you did a wonderful job cropping and burning the edges on the "walk away" (as we used to say in wedding photography!), and the one by the lake is truly, truly magical. take good care, what you have done with chey is just simply outstanding.
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/28/10 03:25 AM

I'm writing from the cottage on dial-up so the pictures were really blurry but I could still tell that Cheyenne looks wonderful and that your kids are just as sweet as can be!

Hope your husband feels better soon!
Posted by: Lexi

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/28/10 04:04 AM

I'm sorry about your husband; you and your family are in my thoughts. Absolutely stunning pictures; I just love them. Pure happiness and love captured on film. wub
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/28/10 05:04 AM

I missed all this earlier. What wonderful shots - so ideal and a bit dreamy, isn't it?

So glad DH is home without further major event. It's a tough adjustment, I'm sending him strength and success with it!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/28/10 11:29 AM

Thank you everyone for your well wishes! Hubby is ok..doesn't feel well on the meds...we are working on diet and exercise and hopefully he won't need them forever. I hate that Dr's don't tell you about the natural things you can do...thank you to everyone that sent me websites and suggestions.

When we first got Cheyenne...I didn't expect to have her very long...especially after our first vet visit. Things didn't sound very good. I always said...my goal for her...was to experience the lake...a place my dogs have always loved so much. Well...goal 1 has been accomplished!






















MOM!! TAKE ME BACK OUT ON THE BOAT PLEASE!


The last picture I have of Mya...is on the boat...taking that last trip around the lake for the season, before we closed up. Little did we know we would lose her right after this. We love you Mya...you are always in our hearts and thoughts...and all of this is being done in your memory....hopefully making another senior as happy as we hope you were.



Here's to many, many more goals met!
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/28/10 12:34 PM

Mary Ann, I hope you can work something out for the DH on diet and exercise.

I am so so totally happy with the way Cheyenne looks, you and your family have helped her so much. She doesn't even look like the same girl that came to your house. Thank you for sharing this pretty gal with us.
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/29/10 01:03 AM

I hope your Hubby feels better soon!

As for Cheyenne... wow.... amazing. I agree, definitely not the same dog you took in.. she is so happy and loved... what a wonderful place your home must be!

As for Mya, that photo makes my heart warm... beautiful.
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/29/10 09:49 AM

Sweet Mya... smiling in the sunshine on her boat, loving her life. She was such a lucky girl.

Cheyenne is truly a different dog now. Happy, hopeful, relaxed, and she looks so very happy and fulfilled out on the lake! I love her so much!!

Sending good thoughts and well-wishes for your hubby to be improving and feeling better soon!
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/29/10 01:24 PM

Awww, what a beautiful picture of Mya...

Chey's life just keeps getting better and better. I'm thinkin' she didn't realize that boating was going to become a part of her new life! But she looks totally comfortable and so beautiful.

Hoping that your hubby starts feeling better soon. If diet and exercise can help, maybe he won't need the meds. Always the best way to go if it works for him. My thoughts and prayers are with him that he'll be good as new before long! hugging
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/02/10 05:04 PM

Off to the lake for the weekend....I hear they are having a boat parade and I'm supposed to get all decked out for a fiesta?? hmmmmmm....

Have a great 4th of July weekend all my friends!
Love, Cheyenne
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/02/10 07:15 PM

Just wonderful wub
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 08/12/10 02:16 AM

how is that cheyenne-girl doing??? i have been so out of the loop and overwhelmed with personal stuff going on...but fall is almost here and things hopefully will slow down a bit, and i can get back to more rescue involvement.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 08/18/10 11:31 AM

awww..thank you Katieliz for thinking of us smile

We've been overwhelmed with personal stuff as well...so I apologize for my absence. Cheyenne has spent alot of time at the lake and is doing very well...I took lots of pics of her summer and will post when things settle down. I guess my biggest news is that Cheyenne is in heat...yikes! This is a first for me...and a little overwhelming...but we're getting through it. She also has an upcoming vet recheck...will post with her status. So...all in all...Cheyenne is still doing well..and enjoying life smile
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 08/18/10 12:19 PM

Mary Ann, for your overwhelmed-ness: hugging

I'm sorry Cheyenne is in heat right now. May this be a brief time and it be mild for her, and easy for you in caring for her. Cheyenne is so very lucky to have you! angel
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 08/18/10 02:01 PM

Egads - do dogs ever go through menopause??

Thanks for the update, sure hope that things settle down for you soon!
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 08/18/10 02:04 PM

Mary Ann, I am sorry you are dealing with a heat cycle. Also I hope you life settles down for you.

Glad you took a little time to fill us in.
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 08/18/10 02:29 PM

Absolutely - you know we're all with you (except for cleaning up the messes).
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 08/18/10 02:35 PM

Thanks for the update! I have been thinking about Ms. Cheyenne. Sorry about the heat cycle...hope things get better on your end. hugging
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 08/19/10 05:21 AM

oh yea...cheyenne is still doing good. in heat??? uh oh, don't tell shermie!
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 08/19/10 12:54 PM

LOL!! If Shermie found out.... wub wub
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 08/20/10 11:49 PM

too funny guys!!

Soooo...finally over...WHEW...and today was spa day smile








Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 08/21/10 12:02 AM

Oh my gosh Mary Ann she gets better looking all the time. I was going to say some times when their bodies are so run down they will skip a heat. So she must be feeling pretty good, she looks so so so much better than when she came to you. Hard to tell it is the same dog. Bless you for making her life a love filled time.
Posted by: Lexi

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 08/21/10 12:05 AM

Cheyenne is looking mighty fine after her spa day.... wub
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 08/21/10 12:12 AM

She's radiant wub
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 08/21/10 12:14 AM

I'm so glad to hear this means she's feeling good!!! Thank you Val smile

She really really is doing great...now if we could just help her with that mammary tumor (you can see it pretty good in the first pic)

Thank you to everyone for your kind words and encouragement...really it means so much!
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 08/21/10 12:51 AM

she looks WONDERFUL!!! fluffy and white and just WONDERFUL!!!
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 08/21/10 01:11 AM

Look how fantastic Cheyenne looks after her spa day! Posing for photos with her friends, both child and doggy, she looks happy in her world. I too wish there was a way to do away with that mammary tumor. My goodness, for a dog with her concerns, she simply has the very best life ever. Love, friends, spa days, love, a nice deck, walks, love, and oh did I mention lotta love?? Her internet fans adore her too. Cheyenne really landed in the best spot she could, with you, Mary Ann! She is one very lucky (and gorgeous!) girl. I love seeing her! Thank you for the updates on your wonderful Cheyenne!
Posted by: GSDTrain

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 08/21/10 01:41 AM

she looks good!
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 08/21/10 02:06 PM

Mary Ann, have you been treating the HW. It might be time to re-evaluate her health. But maybe not, big help aren't I. There is a good chance that the tumors are benign, while they are ugly and possibly a little uncomfortable for her they aren't at this point life threatening. If they are cancerous the surgery could be successful or there could be a chance of releasing cancer cells into her body. I am big on quality of life, right now Granny looks like she has a pretty darn nice quality of life, she is much healthier, she looks good, she is happy and loved. I know you want more for her, but what she has right now is far better than what she had before she came to you and your family.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 08/21/10 02:17 PM

We are doing slow kill - right now she is just on heartguard monthly. (she went through the doxy). She has an appt. soon (beginning of Sept) to re-eval. Last time she was checked...there was a dramatic reduction in heartworms..so I feel optimistic on that front. My gut tells me these tumors are benign as she's had them so long...with no effects. But of course...I'm no expert. She did have one rupture during the winter (before I got her) and while painful...she came through it quite well (the vet said sometimes they never heal..but hers did). The vet told me that when they rupture there is always a fear of dying from infection...so immediate treatment...aggressive antibiotics is necessary. So many questions though...if they are benign...and left...can they turn cancerous? Will discuss extensively with my vet at the next appt. He had not ruled out surgery for her in the future if she was dramatically improved...but wow...that is so scarey...and I agree...you hate to mess with things while she's doing so well. He had the same mindset as you Val...she's doing so well...he didn't want to send her on a downward spiral at this point.
btw-thought her heat was over...but I was wrong...sheesh...at least two weeks now of bleeding...normal? Sorry...I am just not up on these things. Discharge seems lighter in color now...so I assume we're nearing the end?
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 08/21/10 03:13 PM

Heat cycle, yes she is being normal. Here is a good link. http://www.vetinfo.com/heat-cycle-female-dogs.html

I know the benign tumors can and do rupture and the risk of sever infection is very high. So that she survived one is good. I am not sure what the risk factor as far as can benign become cancerous is.
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 08/25/10 01:36 AM

hey beautiful...don't tell sherman, but i think you're somethin' pretty special. i'm just about recovered from my surgery now and my mom says to tell you i'm a really sweet boy, that you, as an elder of the white clan, can be proud of.

here's something especially for you (and for that sweet girl that's your friend too):



bye for now beautiful girls!
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 08/25/10 04:46 AM

LOL, that's great smile
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 08/25/10 11:56 AM

rofl wub
Posted by: shepnterrier

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 08/25/10 01:51 PM

So many boyfrenz'! And good lookin' ones, too!
Fingers crossed for her vet visit. May all the heartworms be gone. I am also conservative when it comes to surgery, especially with seniors. If at all, then only with the very best anesthesia available.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 09/02/10 04:29 PM

UPDATE-VET RECHECK TODAY

GOOD NEWS - NO MICROFALARIA PRESENT!! WOO HOO!


BAD NEWS: Cheyenne lost about 6 lbs...not sure of why...vet said it could have been due to her heat cyle. Her appetite is still good..so will up her food again. Vet didn't seem concerned...but I think he likes to try not to get me too upset maybe? I guess I have fears it could be cancer related?

Mammary tumor has grown extensively...and there are multiple smaller daughter tumors. Very scarey. There is a chance it could be related to the heat cycle and may recede...I pray that is the case.

X-ray showed some suspicious areas in lungs...but not positive if infiltrates or not...only one view taken as Cheyenne was pretty stressed. Just called vet's office to remind them I had turned in an x-ray when I first got her...so I asked them to find that and compare (it wasn't in the chart)
X-ray showed heart to be of normal size. Showed damage due to hw...i.e. enlargement/thickening of some major arteries.

We talked about the pro's and con's of surgery. My vet will not do the surgery and said it would need to be done by a specialist as it will be complicated given her health as she may end up needing ICU, etc. He said the surgery would be radical and he's not sure she would make it. Even just removing the tumors without spay would be radical given the size...and without spaying the chance of them coming back would be high. So...basically...she could have surgery...do great and we could buy her alot of years. She could die during surgery. We could do nothing and hope she continues to do well/give her a good quality of life for however long she has. IF she were to have surgery...of course it should be now vs. later to up her chances. What awful decisions. Maybe the opinion of a specialist?
Lots of things to think about. Scarey to do anything...scarey to not do anything. I assure you that the rescue and I will only do what is in her best interest...we love her dearly.

On the bright side...she is happy, cheeful, energetic and full of life. She has become best of friends with my kitty. I catch them sleeping together..and if Ava even looks like she's too intested in the kitty...Cheyenne will give her a gentle correction. I find it the oddest relationship....Cheyenne and kitty. This cat always hated the world...never came out...but she has bonded with Cheyenne. I will say to Cheyenne "where's your kitty?" Cheyenne will run around looking for her...and when she finds her...start wimpering and kissing her. lol



Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 09/04/10 10:54 PM

always good to read cheyenne news! i know you guys will make the decision based on her best interests, but boy i sure am not a big fan of surgery, especially for seniors, and especially when the prognosis is so uncertain.

bless your heart cheyenne...so you have a little kitty friend, huh??? the c-monster sends you some (respectful) kisses!
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 09/04/10 11:37 PM

Cute story smile

For the cancer, I would consider going back on doxycycline and also add some IP6.
http://www.revoptom.com/content/d/retina_quiz/c/15070/
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 09/07/10 05:38 PM

We attended Goldstock ( http://goldstockcamp.com )this weekend and took Cheyenne. (The person that runs this is a good rescue friend of mine from the Saving GA dogs forum...and many of us from the forum attend ) Attended a T-touch seminar. Also..a woman there that was touched by Cheyenne's story performed some Reiki on her. It was pretty amazing to watch...Cheyenne fell asleep during it. It was very kind of her...and I was so happy to get that opportunity for Cheyenne. The girls from GA submitted Cheyenne into the rescue parade and she was awarded a ribbon. I am also attaching a picture of what we found in that sea of Goldens....an adorable GSD puppy that a woman rescued from an Amish puppy mill...he was such a doll.
We had a great time...and Cheyenne was a true gem as usual.



Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 09/07/10 09:16 PM

Cheyenne is such an amazing girl. And she got a ribbon - how exciting! I'll bet your kids (and you and hubby) were thrilled! She looks terrific - such a beautiful girl. She looks years younger in these pictures!

Love the kitty story. I have a kitty with a similar dislike of anyone, but the one creature in this world that she attached to is Murphy. Her whole personality changes when she's around Murph. You just wonder what communication is going on between them...

Great job with this beauty. She's really living a wonderful life with you all! hugging

And the puppy is adorable - great save on their part!
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 09/07/10 11:24 PM

Mary Ann, I love seeing Cheyenne. She has come such a long way under your families love and care. I love the picture with the ribbon.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 09/08/10 10:00 AM

Mary Ann,

Whenever you can take time out of the thousands of things you do for real people and dogs and think about your cyber friends-post Cheyenne pictures. She remains a lesson in recovery-with the right support.

thank you,
Mary Jane
Posted by: shepnterrier

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 09/10/10 03:07 AM

[quote She remains a lesson in recovery-with the right support. [/quote]

Thank you for all you are doing for Cheyenne. An inspiration to all!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/06/10 05:42 PM

please keep cheyenne in your prayers. breathing has become labored...not interested in eating. have gotten some in her. we see vet in am unless things get worse tonight..we'll go to er.
Posted by: GrandJan

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/06/10 06:02 PM

So sorry to hear things are not going well today. Many prayers headed your way for sweet Miss Cheyenne. hugging
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/06/10 06:03 PM

Oh my goodness, sweet Cheyenne. Darling girl, positive healing vibes and thoughtful prayers being sent your way. Cheyenne is one very tough white GSD lady with a lot of love at home to soak up right now. Grimm and I send positive vibes Chey's way today. May she rally crossedfingersand begin to feel better and do well. hugging
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/06/10 06:04 PM

Sending Cheyenne all my best positive healing thoughts hugging
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/06/10 07:00 PM

Cheyenne pretty girl, this is not the update that I really wanted to read. I am sending positive vibes that there is nothing seriously wrong with you. You need to fight sweetie, Mary Ann and her family have gotten really use to having you as part of their family.
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/06/10 08:35 PM

I posted my most FAVORITE picture of Chey on my FB asking for prayers for her tonight. I know you know which picture that is Mary Ann!
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/06/10 09:06 PM

Oh no! Cheyenne you hang in there--we are all pulling for you!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Tara

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/06/10 09:22 PM

Sending healing thoughts to Cheyenne tonight.
Posted by: GrandJan

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/06/10 10:35 PM

How is Chey doing? Still sending healing thoughts and prayers to all of you.
Posted by: Lexi

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/06/10 11:51 PM

Nooooo!!!! Don't wanna hear this. frown Chey, we love you girl, sending you lots of hugging and healing vibes your way. Hang in there sweet Cheyenne!
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/07/10 01:48 AM

Not the update I was looking for! No! My heart is in my throat!

Pretty girl, please, please do not scare us like this, start feeling better soon beautiful girl, we are all pulling for you!!!

Sending healing thoughts your way and keeping you in my thoughts!
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/07/10 09:50 AM

Oh Mary Ann, another challenge for you and Cheyenne. You have accomplished a great management of several illnesses Chey presented and you will do what's best. Please keep us posted because so many people care.

Mary Jane
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/07/10 10:00 AM

Thank you everyone!!
She had improved alot last night...was even trotting around a little...ate very well...wagged her tail. I was very optimistic.

Today...she is not getting up. Still alert...ate for me. I am trying frantically to get my vet on the phone...we had an appt. for 10:30...trying to go in sooner. Still not open...hopefully open at 9...and I'll ask if I can come right over.
don't know how I'll get her downstairs and into the truck ..I'm all by myself..
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/07/10 10:54 AM

Oh my...I hope you wee able to get her downstairs...thinking of you guys.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/07/10 12:19 PM

We're home. Cheyenne amazed me by walking to the truck and getting in...and walking into the vet by herself. She stood in the hospital and greeted all the other dogs. Her strength and spirit are truly amazing.

Her breathing is very bad. X-rays revealed no apparent reason...showed no change from last x-rays (taken about a month ago)...no serious upper respiratory...just the damage from her heartworm disease.

So..could be a heartworm that died...could be some kind of bug that she caught...coupled with her bad heart...is adding stress.....not sure.

She was given a low dose steroid shot...put on clavamox for 7 days and her diuretic was upped for now. I was instructed on what to look for as far as distress...and to keep the ER number by my side.

The good thing today is that her breathing is only labored upon exertion...she is pretty content when resting....and that is what we will spend the day doing.

This was a new vet I saw today...and her first remark was...wow..that's an impressive mammary tumor she has. Gosh...yes..we still have that hanging over her. She said the good thing was that it was pretty contained as opposed to tumors she has seen that cause the entire area...leg...etc to become swollen and she was extremely impressed that she has had it so long and no problems from it. (no mets seen on x-rays either) She also remarked on how incredibly sweet Cheyenne is and what a good patient she was.

Please keep Cheyenne in your thoughts and prayers...they have helped her so much! She is an amazing dog..with an amazing spirt and will to live...her strength is incredible.
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/07/10 12:28 PM

Mary Ann, that is such good news. Thank goodness... What an amazing girl and it's obvious she has a very strong will to live. Enjoy every moment!! Keep feeling better, Chey!! hugging
Posted by: lil'mister

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/07/10 12:32 PM

hugging For Chey and you. She is very fortunate to share your love and to be in a family that truly appreciates her.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/07/10 12:37 PM

I'm just very scared with this breathing. I am worried that it is a case of a bad heart starting to just fail her. (although no fluid found to suggest heart failure) Gosh..I just wish we knew exactly why her breathing deteriorated. I'll just focus on getting her to rebound.
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/07/10 12:44 PM

I wonder if all the rain and humidity has made it harder for her to breathe - just so many days in a row (if it's like that there) sogged her all up. Big XOXO to her. Keep posting like a little log here so you can keep track of things!
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/07/10 12:46 PM

Thank you Mary Ann for a real time update.

Miss Cheyenne is one admirable creature. However we all know that she is living and thriving in the best possible place for her.

take it easy, all of you,
Mary Jane
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/07/10 01:07 PM

Cheyenne sending you some healing vibes and lots of bug hugs. You gave us a scare there pretty girl.

Mary Ann and family sending grouphug
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/07/10 01:26 PM

What a relief--so glad you were able to get her in there and they didn't find anything (more) alarming.

I agree with Jean--it may be the weather.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/07/10 01:38 PM

Yes..we have had a long stint of rain and cooler weather. Odd though that she did so well over this hot summer..and the vet thought that was phenomenal. We had a flea issue again with her (I think fleas are drawn to her due to her weakened immune system) and I had her and Ava on the porch alot on Sunday while I cleaned the house. I wonder if that did it to her...major guilt trip going on here!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/07/10 04:03 PM

I take cheyenne every day to pick up my kids. Today I thought I'd leave her home to let her rest...but she was not having any of that. I turned to see her slowly following me..breathing heavily.....awwww...so of course she came...she loves that so much and there was no way she wanted to be left behind. Also ate a big bowl of hamburger and rice.
Posted by: Tara

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/07/10 04:07 PM

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Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/07/10 06:38 PM

I am sending you both hugging and will definitely keep beautiful Cheyenne in my thoughts and prayers.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/07/10 10:26 PM

I keep thinking about this...I gave her a capstar...then frontline.....

although we did this in the past per our vet due to her getting fleas......I'm wondering if this is a reaction? The timing is so bizarre...the next day she was so sick. I'm being told no...but it just seems so coincidental.....
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/07/10 11:24 PM

Mary Ann you know with dogs I go by what is happening and the timing of things more than everyone telling me no it can't be. People can have reactions to a drug combination that no one had before, so why not dogs?

My Vet has told me several times that DeeDee's problems couldn't have been from her Vaccine reaction, but I am not buying it.

Sending pretty Cheyenne more healing vibes.
Posted by: PositiveDog

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/08/10 12:14 AM

Cheyenne, good girl for eating! I hope you have the warmer weather we have coming in. Perhaps that will help you with your breathing.

Mary Ann, good thoughts to you and your family. I know how special Chey is to all of you.

Warm, strong thoughts to Chey! hugging
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/08/10 12:19 AM

Mary Ann, I was just talking to a guy I work with yesterday about fleas and ticks. When he was living in Oklahoma he had a friend with a border collie. Long story short, the meds he was giving for fleas and ticks were making this dog crazy (they didn't realize that until they stopped the meds). He started giving him B12 and the dog not only calmed down, but had no problems with fleas after that and he only found a tick once in a great while. I have no idea if there is any legitimacy to that, but maybe Ruth or Lisa can chime in on the B12...
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/08/10 12:21 AM

MaryAnn,

I have had success with NEEM shampoo and spray for fleas. NEEM is also good for the skin.

Don't beat yourself up please. Last week I brushed some diatamaceous earth into Cleo's fur to kill fleas and was very careful to be sure that it was safe for cats. What I didn't factor in was how much it would dehydrate her (obviously a huge concern since she has CRF). Poor kitty had one very bad day b/c of that.

It is really tough taking care of these elder animals, you end up second guessing yourself all of the time. You are doing your best though and she knows it. hugging
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/08/10 10:32 AM

Thank you...you'll have to tell me 1000 more times not to beat myself up....gosh...because I keep on saying..I did this.

One day she's absolutely fine...I frontline her...next day she is out of it...panting...not eating. Just seems reasonable to see a connection doesn't it?? Vet's office doesn't think so. I have another call into them about this. I'm sure they think I'm crazy. But I will say...she will NEVER get frontline again. I just hope this isn't permanent damage. Do I give her a bath with Dawn? Do I try to find some kind of detox? b12? my head is spinning..I was up all night...I just want to fix this...make it go away.

She's alert...has eaten...can walk around..go out to potty...but other than that just wants to lay down and sleep. Breathing is stil the same as yesterday.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/08/10 10:37 AM

and...Ava is the comic relief around here...although I hardly notice...but if you take a second to notice her in the background..she's too cute.

awww...Cheyenne...are you hungry? (Ava in background doing handstands...me...me...yes I AM! roll over...gives paw...down...sit...me..me!!)
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/08/10 10:53 AM

GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ. Way back, Kramer had a reaction to Advantage - I cannot remember what that entailed, and he was young and healthy then so I can imagine she could have a reaction.

(did not know that about DE Ruth...good to know)

I wish I knew what to tell you - I would say encouraging her to drink (add a little baby food to water to make it yummy), getting her a B12 shot, I am not sure if you can find the Earth Bath wipes in your area to wipe her down, or if there is anything in those that is bad...

Is there anything she's on for the breathing? She got Pred right?

AVA - what a goon! rofl Love it.

Please take care - and definitely do not beat yourself up. We can't know/do it all.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/08/10 11:25 AM

ok...I just got the word...from a 2nd vet (both who have treated her..her regular vet and the vet I had to see yestserday)...that this has absolutely nothing to do with frontline.

I don't know what to think...maybe it is just a freak coincidence...I don't think I will ever be thoroughly convinced though...

I guess with a healthy dog..you could be more sure..but with so much going on with Cheyenne it's so hard to REALLY know...

but to be sure..I won't do frontline ever again on her.
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/08/10 11:46 AM

how can the vet know? I say trust your instincts--seniors can be so super sensitive with their compromised immune systems.

I would not use Dawn. It has chemicals in it. I use the stuff by Azmira but I notice that Petco has this one and it looks good: http://www.petco.com/product/108804/Richard's-Organics-Neem-Oil-Flea-and-Tick-Remedy.aspx?cm_mmc=CSEMGooglebase-_-Dog-_-Richard's%20Organics-_-1235249&mr:trackingCode=04F7EB15-8381-DE11-B7F3-0019B9C043EB&mr:referralID=NA

If you want something gentle and cleansing you could use an oatmeal or coconut based shampoo.

I know that when something happens with Cleo it is always a few days before she's back to herself.

And Rafi does the same silly stuff around here! Me, Mommy, Me! I want to eat! I want to play! I want to eat the food that Cleo just spat out!

You hang in there...Cheyenne doesn't want you beating yourself up!
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/08/10 12:48 PM

I am just seeing this, I'm so sorry!

It is absolutely possible it is the frontline - it can cause all sorts of neuro problems in susceptible dogs - Indy used to get a systemic muscular reacion!

I am glad that she is better hugging
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 11:54 AM

She is not doing well...breathing is very bad. Please keep her in your prayers.

I have emailed Marina Zacharias for any advice. I don't know what to do. I thought we were heading to the ER this morning...her breathing was so bad...but I have her now resting comfortablely. She is still eating..and alert...and breaking my heart...

I am not a good hospice foster..
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 12:19 PM

I can't remember if she can use a nebulizer with those kind of drugs or not? It's hard - you don't know why she's breathing like this right?

You are a great hospice foster. It's really hard - and you haven't truly made the decision not to do anything that will lengthen her life right? So let's call it non-hospice palliative care so you can breathe a little easier yourself. Please take care.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 12:29 PM

NO NO Jean! I will do whatever it takes!

don't have a reason for this bad breathing. there are no signs of heart failure. it's definitely more on exersion...and steps are very very hard on her. of course...i would have alot of steps to go out...so we take a few...rest...

when she's laying down she's much better. she does have trouble getting up...once she's up she can walk around.

she still wags her tail...eats...drinks...is alert...even barks a little.

I have her on a blanket in the living room...usually she insists on being whereever i am...today...she's staying in the living room as opposed to following me in here by the computer. so..it's too much for her....
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 01:19 PM

Mary Ann,

Cheyenne is in the best possible hands and hearts. It's got to be torture to worry about her every breath, but I guess that comes with the territory of this gravely ill dog who you (and your family) brought back to life.

Remember that's really what you did.

She has loved her life since.

That's got to be true.

take it easy,
Mary Jane
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 02:55 PM

Zoomie some really strong healing vibes to Cheyenne. Come on pretty girl, we all want you to be around for a long time yet. I don't think you journey here is complete yet.

Mary Ann I was doing some reading on HW. Did she have any blood tests. Looking for Liver/Kidney damage?? Do you have any X-Rays from when you got her to recently, looking for changes. I can't remember are you giving HW treatment (preventative) to stop the multiplying of the HW.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 03:47 PM

her x-rays from GA were very bad...so much going on. She has had x-rays here since then...which were greatly improved since the GA x-rays. she again had x-rays at our visit the other day...no change from the previous x-rays taken here (which were about a month ago??) No signs of mets...or fluid to indicate heart failure...or signs of upper respiratory infection.

yes...we are doing heartguard. she was pronounced microfalaria free about a month ago.

no blood work done at last appt. frown

if we hold our own right now...at her next appt I will ask about having blood work done...appt. scheduled for wed.



just got her down the stairs to potty...then we laid in the sun for a while. just had a light lunch...drank water. now resting.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 03:48 PM

basically...the only thing the x-rays show is the damage done to her heart from heartworm disease.
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 03:53 PM

You are doing a wonderful job! Sometimes things are beyond our control though frown

How is the color in her gums looking? Is it pale at all?
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 04:02 PM

Mary Ann how is her breath or does she always have bad breath. Reason I ask is that Frontline is lets face it a poison, the liver cleanses the body. So in her compromised state it might not take much to get her liver a bit toxed up. It wouldn't hurt her, you might want to try some Milk Thistle on her.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 04:15 PM

just got off the phone with my vet...he said absolutely not..this is not the frontline (yeh..they probably think I'm a nut right about now) ...dog's bodies don't react like this...

anyway...I asked about a gentle detox..he said she doesn't have it in her to do that.

he wants me to give her an extra dose of diuretic...said I could throw in some Benadryl if I want...........

I asked if she could maybe pull through this...he never answered me...said see how she does the next 24 hrs.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 04:16 PM

breath doesn't seem different.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 04:17 PM

I keep checking gums...seem normal
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 04:21 PM

Ironically..I got my response from Marina Zacharias who said she has seen this before with frontline...and suggested a mild detox..and a bunch of heart support supplements...

unfortunately..i can't afford what she's selling
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 04:30 PM

What did she suggest? I might be able to help with some alternatives...you can pm me if you prefer.

I don't know why I didn't remember this last night, I guess I'm not thinking so well nowadays, but I looked it up and I am told that for Frontline, any shampoo with benzoyl peroxide will wash it off. I haven't a clue if that works for the other chemicals.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 04:37 PM

Liver Detox & support would be Milk Thistle. I think there are others that work also I just know this one. I really believe it helped my DeeDee girl. I don't think it is hard on the system. Some times I think Vets think of Detox as radical and harsh.
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 05:16 PM

I agree with Val. And I would not do what the vet said.


Low dose Milk thistle (followed by Biochem's Liver Support Factors, or start with this if locally available), and I was also thinking of Solaray's lymph cleanse in a lower dose than labeled.
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 05:30 PM

Sending you and Cheyenne all my best positive healing thoughts hugging
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 05:35 PM

Absolutely--milk thistle and dandelion. I wish you lived here and I could just drive some over for Cheyenne.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 07:04 PM


had to run to the store for some groceries..nothing at all in the house...and I scanned the shelves and found milk thistle 140 mg (Naturemade) probably not the best on the market but it was what I could get my hands on today. I could run out and look for dandelion.



(I looked up dandelion and see it's a natural diuretic...wonder if that would be ok to use since she is already on a diuretic? )

(just found this...thinking about cheyenne's mammary tumors...

There is a theoretical risk that milk thistle could have an estrogen-like effect, so people with hormone-sensitive conditions such as endometriosis, uterine fibroids or cancers of the breast, uterus and ovaries should avoid milk thistle, particularly the above ground parts of the plant.)
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 07:53 PM

A number of reasons why estrogen problems develop is because of the synthetic estrogens in the environment. Natural estrogens are often not the problem, and in fact can fill the estrogen receptors so that the synthetic estrogens do not do any more damage.

NatureMade I believe has the yellow label! If they are what I'm thinking, I believe that they have good quality control in their products.

Are the instructions for a pill, twice a day?

With that doage pill, I'm thinking 1, once a day.
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 07:58 PM

Re: estrogen and the cancer - I know you are concerned.

It is the long term effect of any of these products that will build natural estrogen in the body. Using this in this crisis, but not long term, might make you feel better.

I have a friend that fought an aggressive form of prostate cancer, similar cautions for prostate cancer hold as for mammary cancer. MT was an important part of his cancer regimine, as was IP6.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 08:50 PM

Yes..the yellow label..Nature Made.

1 capsule is 140 mg...serving size is 1 capsule twice a day
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 09:26 PM

I would give her 1/2 the recommended dose, so 1 pill per day. IF you are really nervous, even 1 every other day would help, though the dose is so low, it would help just a little. You could give one a day for !out 5 days, and then drop to every other day if you are nervous. Quietly concentrate on dosage, and perhaps it will be clear to you what the oprimal dose is.
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 09:34 PM

It's possible those mammary tumors are benign?

Nothing else, just hoping she can feel better soon.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 09:39 PM

Yes Jean..that's always a possibility.
Ok..I'm going to start with some milk thistle...
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 09:40 PM

AND THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU everyone!!

for the advice...the comfort...the kind words...just being here to talk to....
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 10:42 PM

I'm just trying to think positively.

I wonder if she has a little URI? I can't remember if she's still on abx? I know that they would have said URI...but what about just taking some doxy I wonder...if she's not already...
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 10:56 PM

nothing glaring...x-rays didn't show anything. But they didn't rule out a "touch" of something..that is why they put her on clavamox just in case......

Just had a big bowl of homemade chicken soup. maybe I'm just grasping here...thinking it has to have some natural healing...soothing..properties.

I've just had her out to potty...breathing very bad...steps were a strain... tucked in bed...now...lots of prayers.....saying the emergency memorare.
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 10:59 PM

It does! Chicken soup is the best.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/09/10 11:20 PM

chicken soup and all possible blessings to you all
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/10/10 12:25 AM

Zooming more healing vibes to Cheyenne. My Cheyenne says that namesakes need to stick together, so she is sending some super Cheyennne vibes.
Posted by: PositiveDog

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/10/10 12:47 AM

Cheyenne - another friend thinking of you and wishing you well. Chicken soup is an all species healer. smile

Hang tough, Sweet Cheyenne.
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/10/10 04:48 AM

I am also sending Cheyenne all my best positive thoughts hugging
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/10/10 10:01 AM

not getting up today..panting...ate for me

my friend has some of the things marina suggested...I'm going to meet her now
Posted by: Lexi

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/10/10 10:46 AM

Sending good vibes, hugs, and best wishes to dear Cheyenne. hugging
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/10/10 11:45 AM

Good morning Chey - just wanted to send you some hugs and kisses and prayers from Auntie Lori and the gang. We are anxiously waiting to hear that your breathing has improved. Mary Ann I wish I was close to you...call me if you need to talk.
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/10/10 12:54 PM

Did the vet say if a hot shower room or a nebulizer would help? When I can't breathe well (and did this for the Dylan too) I like a fan on near me, blowing air around, makes it easier to catch a good breath.

XOXO Cheyenne!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/10/10 12:56 PM

I got her up and out this morning. Steps are very difficult for her. I hate that we have so many steps to get out.

she's comfortable right now. eating.

I'm thinking of taking her to the lake for a few days...she loves it there...it might help emotionally...and there are no steps to add stress.

down side is that it takes us farther from the vet or er...about an hour...so I'm still debating.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/10/10 01:05 PM

and baby Ava is also very bad... Please keep them both in your prayers.
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/10/10 01:14 PM

Glad that she got up this AM. Lake sounds good...

What is wrong with Ava???????
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/10/10 01:24 PM

Baby Ava from SC: http://southerncrossgsdrescue.blogspot.com/ frown

Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/10/10 01:28 PM

Originally Posted By: JeanKBBMMMAAN


Oh...that Ava. I hope she pulls through and am relieved it is not Cheyenne's doggie sister Ava!

ETA: Hope I didn't sound like a jerk there. I just got really worried that something was wrong with MaryAnn's Ava. Those little puppies are adorable.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/10/10 02:01 PM

Mary Ann, I think the Lake sounds like a fine idea. I don't mean this to sound bad, but I am not sure 1 hour drive would make a difference. The Lake might just be the place to be, no steps.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/10/10 02:07 PM

I was afraid to offer an opinion because I have no experience behind it, but I can second Val: you can relax a little knowing that Chey can get outside without a struggle and you both will enjoy the scene.

MJ
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/10/10 07:10 PM

Sending you and Cheyenne all my warmest, healing thoughts and prayers hugging
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/10/10 07:11 PM

Sending you and Cheyenne all my warmest, healing thoughts and prayers hugging
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/10/10 09:54 PM

Thinking of you both and sending lots of healing thoughts to Cheyenne... hugging
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/10/10 11:25 PM

Cheyenne is still fighting.. The bright spot in my day...was when I came home from being out...and Cheyenne was standing at the top of the steps (like she always did before she got sick) to greet me. I can't tell you how that felt!

She is such an amazing dog...her spirit and will are so strong. She has been through so much and keeps fighting.

Our goal is to leave for the lake tomorrow until Tues night...I think it will be good for her to go the place she loves so much.

Thank you so much for your thoughts and prayers...I know with all my being..that they help...we can feel them! I love you guys!!
Posted by: GrandJan

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/10/10 11:51 PM

Many thoughts and prayers for you as you head out for a respite - Chey and her loving family. She is where she wants to be and with whom she wants to be and He is smiling upon you all.
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/11/10 12:21 AM

I hope you have a restful time at the lake and that you and Cheyenne really enjoy your visit. I will keep you in my thoughts!
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/11/10 12:42 AM

Sending good vibes to Cheyenne.
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/11/10 12:47 AM

Sending good vibes your way!!!
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/11/10 06:37 AM

I hope you both enjoy your time at the lake and it is just what Cheyenne needs. Sending all my most healing thoughts and prayers her way hugging
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/11/10 02:25 PM

Oh Mary Ann, I haven't been on for awhile and just now saw this about Chey. I'm in tears reading what she is going through. I pray the lake trip will make a great improvement for her. My thoughts and prayers will be with Chey, you and your whole family. I know this is so terribly hard for all. Cain sends his love and prayers also. (((BIG HUG)))
Posted by: PositiveDog

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/11/10 05:40 PM

Both of you should enjoy the lake. I glad she gave you a bright spot today. Aren't they amazing?! gsdsit
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/11/10 07:22 PM

i am late to learn about this too...oh, mary ann, i'm so sorry. have a safe trip to the lake. you are in my thoughts.

sending good energy from the c-monster to beautiful miss cheyenne.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/11/10 08:56 PM

Unfortunately...we are still home. Things delayed our departure today...then bad storms came in..
I had visions of sitting at the lake soaking in a nice autumn day...but rain and cold wasn't very enticing..so we opted to stay cozy here.

We had what I consider a decent day today. We managed many potty breaks and even a walk around the house...albeit very slow...but she WANTED TO...and that's what counts.

Tonight is very stormy and she and Ava have spent the evening close to me and eachother...alternating between following me around and hiding under the table.

We're doing lots of small warm meals during the day...including adding chicken soup. I've been so blessed that a friend of mine had two of the supplements Marina suggested...one for the heart..and one gentle cleanse...so we've been doing those as well (discontinued the milk thistle only because we started on Marina's gentle cleanse).

We WILL go back to the lake!! I am very cautiously optimistic that i CAN say...we'll go another day...hoping this weekend.

I got word that fragile little baby Ava pulled through her surgery. That is almost uncomprehensible....a teeny tiny 5 lb baby pulling through such a surgery in her fragile state. Then we have Cheyenne here...with everything under the sun going against her...and still plugging along.

Just shows the power of prayer..positive thoughts...and good friends supporting you!! THANK YOU!!
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/12/10 02:12 AM

Glad to hear she had a decent day. I hope you get to go to the lake soon! You BOTH need a relaxing day sitting in the sun!

Keeping you and Chey (and of course Ava - yours and the sweet sick baby) in my thoughts.
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/12/10 06:48 AM

I am so happy to hear that she wanted to have a little walk around the house smile Still thinking of you both and sending beautiful Cheyenne my healing thoughts hugging
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/12/10 01:25 PM

Cheyenne continues to kick butt here! smile

aside from the breathing...I think that being down for so long has exacerbated her hip issues (yeh...of course we have bad hips too) She seems very stiff it's difficult to get around. I am NOT throwing any more meds or a pain killer at her right now. Any natural suggestions?
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/12/10 01:27 PM

Springtime supplement, fish oil, vit c. What are you giving her right now?
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/12/10 03:47 PM

I give Cain, well really all three dogs, Genesis Resources GCM Plus Hip & Joint
Formula every day. I get it from my vet. I sent you an email.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/13/10 08:27 AM

Follow up vet appt today...WAIT until they see us walk in!! (I know by the way my vet sounded over the weekend...that they didn't really expect her to pull through)

(cainsmomma...sorry..behind on email...will email you today! love ya!!)
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/13/10 09:24 AM

So sounds like the lake did her good! Is her breathing any better?
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/13/10 09:30 AM

Hi Lori..unfortunately..we never made it to the lake. We had a delay in leaving...then very bad storms moved in. It was one of those evenings..where I had the two dogs clinging to me.

Yes..her breathing is better..not great...but much better..

She still has a very hard time getting around...but she's managing. I think coupled with everything else..her arthritis/bad hips are now getting her down as well.
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/13/10 09:50 AM

Here is wishing and hoping that her arthritis and joint issues, as well as breathing concerns, ease up and give Cheyenne a time of feeling better. We sometimes say "good days and bad day"s-- may sweet Chey be having a good day soon. She is in such a loving home with a loving family. May she rally and feel better. You are doing an amazing job with her Mary Ann! hugging
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/13/10 12:59 PM

sending healing thoughts and energy, and hopes for more good days, to your sweet girl cheyenne. her "golden years" have been wonderful because of you, indeed, without you she'd probably have had none. take good care, many blessings to you and your family.
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/13/10 01:01 PM

Still thinking of sweet Chey and hoping she has many more good days!
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/13/10 06:47 PM

Sending more healing thoughts her way hugging
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/14/10 12:10 AM

Hey Chey....we love you and want you to get better and play with us!

Cain, Maggie & Heidi (oh yeah, our mommy too)

Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/14/10 09:46 AM

Good morning Mary Ann, Mary Ann's great kids, and ta da Miss Cheyenne, queen of old age,

Breathe easier everybody, just take it easy.

MJ
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/14/10 10:57 AM

Good Morning! smile

Yesterday's appt. went well. Vet was....well...happy we were there...and admitted she didn't think Chey was going to make it. Breathing is better...still not great...but much better than where we were at last week. We are going too continue the antibiotic for another week...and keep other meds the same. (I am allowed to adjust the diuretic depending on where she's at)

Her arthritis/bad hips has really kicked in. It takes her a while to decide to get up in the morning..today it took her an hour...and she is having difficulty with steps...and getting into our vehicle is really an ordeal now. I feel so bad...because going for rides is just her favorite thing to do...and when I see her ambling behind me when I'm leaving...well..I just have to take her. Maybe I can have my husband make some kind of steps for her....

Vet agreed it's not a good idea to throw any meds at her...and gave me amt's of glucosamine and fish oil we can give her. I am hesitant on the fish oil...was it posted early on in this thread that it was not good due to her mammary tumors? Any other natural supplement suggestions to help are appreciated.

Her mammary tumor is now huge...and I try not to look at it...and shelve that for another day. It's now one day at a time here....and what issue is pressing...

Cainsmomma...your babies are gorgeous...Heidi has grown up to be such a cutie...Maggie...well..what can you say..adorable...and Cain...what a hunk! smile
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/14/10 11:13 AM

What about laser treatment for her hips?
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/14/10 02:50 PM

Mary Ann I understand one day at a time.

I was just wondering if some Aspirin would help. I have been giving my Cheyenne 2 baby Aspirin at night at her mood seems much better. She was seeming a little quite now she is back to being bouncy and sassy. In the Pain Management thread it tells you how much she could have.

Hey Cheyenne since my Cheyenne is so sassy right now she is sending you some energy vibes and some healing thoughts.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/14/10 05:47 PM

Cheyenne can do Sassy!! (Right before she got sick)I was dancing around the house with the kids and she bit me in the behind...hard...LOL. Apparently...she wasn't impressed.

Thank you for the suggestion! I'll look into that smile
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/14/10 06:39 PM

Mary Ann,

Here is the link to the Pain Management
http://www.vetinfo.com/dpain.html

Sorry about Cheyenne biting you in the rear. My Chey is pretty good with me, my DH on the other hand is the human chew toy.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/16/10 04:18 PM

Just checking how Cheyenne is doing? My Cheyenne is such a PIA, she is Check on Cheyenne, Check on Cheyenne, I think she really thinks all my Cheyenne thoughts are about her. grouphug
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/26/10 10:46 AM

after progressively getting better...to the point where the other day I feel she was better than she ever was...she has deteriorated over the past couple days to where she can't walk. Not sure if hips or pain from tumor...

call into vet
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/26/10 11:03 AM

Sending supporting vibes to you and Cheyenne.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/26/10 11:06 AM

ok..we're going to start pain meds...pray they help
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/26/10 11:07 AM

Did you start her on fish oil and joint supplements? The laser treatments seem to be cheaper than pain meds over the long run.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/26/10 11:28 AM

Mary Ann, sending good thoughts that the pain meds help. I don't know what your weather is, right now we are under a Huge Low pressure system. I know that weather changes would affect my older dogs as far as pain.

Cheyenne I hope the Meds give you some relief, hang in there sweetie,
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/26/10 11:30 AM

Mary Ann, you have all my hopes that your wise care of Cheyenne saves her yet another time.

all the best, ladies,
MJ
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/26/10 11:53 AM

hugging
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/26/10 02:28 PM

also running down for another antibiotic. eye gunk has returned...
and she has been doing alot of panting/stressed breathing..wondering if it's pain related.

breathing seems more at ease now that she has the pain killer in her.

we just had her potty trip which took an hour total...after the long stair ordeal...we just spent time outside laying in the sun. Now she's taking a nap.
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/26/10 02:53 PM

Dang Mary Ann - I'm sorry. I was really hoping the 'good' spell would last a little longer. Bless her heart. Give her a big hug and kiss from me. Is there anyway to make a temporary ramp for the stairs with a piece of wood for her? Not sure how many stairs we're talking about or how steep, but just an idea.
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/26/10 05:04 PM

This was NOT the update I was hoping for. The panting is probably pain related. Chama panted a lot as she got older and her tumor got bigger.

Sending out my very best healing thoughts to the beautiful Chey! hugging
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/26/10 05:15 PM

THANK YOU Ruth for that. I was wondering if the panting was related. I hope it is vs. it being related to yet something else.

I worry about her tumor...I worry about her bad heart...now her hips.....and she seems to have something underlying getting her down as every time we go off the antibiotic..she gets gunky eyes again. Any suggestions for trying to build up her immune system would be appreciated.
(looking for supplements I can run and buy)

I feel like I don't know what to tackle first. Too many things...

I guess I'll start with making more chicken soup tonight...don't know if it helps at all...but it makes me feel like I am doing something...
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/26/10 05:35 PM

Sending good vibes Chey's way.

I often think about this sweet girl... her eyes remind me of my baby Beau.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/26/10 07:10 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom
also running down for another antibiotic. eye gunk has returned..


Originally Posted By: myamom
and she seems to have something underlying getting her down as every time we go off the antibiotic..she gets gunky eyes again.


Mary Ann, with the ABX I would talk to the Vet about just keeping her on a low dose and see what happens. If she keeps getting gunky eyes when you take her off the ABX then the ABX is doing something. Either keeping the infection at bay or modulating her immune system. The downward spirals aren't good for her. I am not fond of ABX for long term, but I think her immediate health is more important than looking what something could do down the line.

I know it might sound harsh, but you don't know how long she has, 1 week, 1 month, more months. I would be trying to keep her going for the immediate time.

You know Cheyenne is one of my favorite dogs, but her now is more important than what could or couldn't happen down the line.

Hugs to you and your family and hugs to Cheyenne.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/26/10 07:30 PM

I agree Val. I had to run back to the vet because he had given me EYE DROPS and I said no...I want an oral antibiotic.

I also need to call again tomorrow...because when I called today to tell them she was that bad..I mentioned that she was sent to me with a bottle of Tramadol and should I give her some? He said yes and told me how much. But....(upon reading on this forum about the different types of meds)...I should be giving an anti-inflammatory pain med..no?
She has had very little relief today on the Tramadol.
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/26/10 08:29 PM

Max has all sorts of weird symptoms when he is not on Doxy. Maybe Cheyenne has one of these deep chronic infections, or even a tick infection that doesn't show on the test.

The last year of Indy's life I had her on doxy, and it greatly contributed to her quality of life. It may even have bought her a good 6 months, for various reasons.

I agree with Val, to worry about now.

hugging
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/26/10 09:05 PM

i think about cheyenne every single day and always hope for the very best for her and for you and your family too mary ann.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/26/10 10:42 PM

Thank you..

I'm again asking for all your prayers for her..

I am going to tell them we have to come in tomorrow...her breathing is bad..and she can't walk.
Posted by: GrandJan

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/26/10 10:47 PM

We're with you, Mary Ann. hugging Special prayers, Chey, and healing thoughts speeding to you. angel
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/26/10 11:36 PM

Wrapping Mary Ann and Chey up in warm supportive positive thoughts. bloomrose angel butterfly hugging grouphug

.. and another group hug. grouphug
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/27/10 12:29 AM

Oh Mary Ann, sending positive strength vibes to Cheyenne.
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/27/10 12:40 AM

Holding her in my thoughts here as well...
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/27/10 07:31 AM

How are things this morning Mary Ann?
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/27/10 09:16 AM

Gosh...I could just jump out of my skin...I don't know what to do.

Walking is not as bad today. She actually came out on her own. My husband carried her down the steps..but she came up on her own.

She ate her breakfast.

BUT the breathing is horrible. I listened to her panting all night..very hard...still like that. I don't know what to do for her. It was like nails on a chalk board..as I laid there awake all night...if that makes sense...I just want it to stop...I want her to be comfortable. I feel so helpless.

I will call vet for advice...but I am actually afraid to take her in...I may wait the day out.. they've seen her this way before..there is nothing really they can do except play with meds..or tell me to stop..and... Cheyenne and I are not ready to stop fighting yet.

I think I will only give 1/2 dose of Tramadol today as her pain doesn't seem as bad...and I think a side affect of that is panting...so it could be exacerbating things.

Humidity here is 98%. Wondering if that is affecting her?

Right now we are doing all her heart meds...I am also doing a holistic heart support. I am also doing glucosamine, fish oil and an antibiotic. I will up the diuretic back up to 3 x a day.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/27/10 09:57 AM

has anyone had any problems with Tramadol?

saw this:

SIDE EFFECTS:

Side effects are considered rare but we list the following for completeness:


Pupil constriction and panting may occur with this medication.



The panting was so excessive last night. Dare I even say...she seems to be resting a little right now. Not panting...still stomach breathing though.
Posted by: Woodreb

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/27/10 10:24 AM

I used to use a low dose of tramadol for Rica with no problems other than she slept more. But I have heard of other people's dogs that have problems with tramadol. It's certainly possible that she is in the group that could suffer this as a side effect.
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/27/10 10:28 AM

Sorry I have no advice but just wanted to say you are both in my thoughts and prayers hugging
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/27/10 11:22 AM

Just another voice of concern and hope for Miss Cheyenne.

MJ
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/27/10 12:35 PM

Yes, some dogs have trouble with tramadol.
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/27/10 12:50 PM

Prayers and ((( HUGS))) for Chey and you and your family!


FLOWERS FOR CHEY FROM CAIN

Posted by: LJsMom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/27/10 12:51 PM

Agree on the tramadol - it made LJ pant heavily.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/27/10 01:13 PM

Good to know Joanne! No more tramadol. I'm not saying she wasn't having breathing issues to begin with...but the panting was so over the top coinciding with the use of the Tramadol...that I really believe it was the culprit in exacerbating her breathing issues.

She is taking a nap. She is still panting when walking.. I did get her down the steps and up by herself (have no choice as I can't lift her)...and that did take a toll on her breathing...but sleeping...she seems more comfortable than she was. Last night she couldn't sleep at all...just panted.

I'm tiptoeing around the house...just want her to rest...

thank you for all the support, thoughts, prayers (and flowers from handsome cain)...maybe we can pull her through again...I pray...in any event...you have all helped me so much...
Posted by: matsired

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/27/10 01:15 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom


The panting was so excessive last night. Dare I even say...she seems to be resting a little right now. Not panting...still stomach breathing though.


Hi Maryann, just seeing all the updates on Cheyenne. So sorry she is not feeling well.

I can only speak from my own experience with my seniors. I've had three that panted heavily when they were sick. Red panted because he had cancer and started bleeding. Chewbacca went to bed panting. I thought it was the heat, left him with water in his bed, and he had died during the night. I have no idea what the specific cause of his death was, but I'm assuming the panting was pain related.

Then most recently, Sherman. Never saw a dog pant the way he did. And shaking simultaneously. This was all pain related due to spinal disease, probably bulging disc in his neck. I put him on the highest doses of Prednisone, Tramadol, and Doxycycline allowed. At about 84 pounds, he was maintained on Tramadol 200mg three times per day to manage his pain while the Doxycline and Prednisone worked magic on reducing inflammation. And bedrest of course.

When he was first seen, they only put him on 50mg of Tramadol, and later I realized, it was not nearly enough to make him comfortable. It was very hard to watch him shake and pant like that. My regular vet upped his dosages of Tramadol and Prednisone by 4x! It was that or euthanize him. That was his last shot, and it worked well.

Not sure what is causing Cheyenne to pant that way, or what her dosages of meds are, but at her age with little to lose by maximizing her meds, it may be worth a discussion with your vet.
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/27/10 02:48 PM

Wise words from Donna. thumbup Mary Ann, Cheyenne is so very lucky that she landed in your expert care. Perhaps upping her pain meds will be the comfort she needs to be able to relax, let tension leave her body as the pain lessens. I put my last senior on some substanially high pain meds-- and saw him finally be able to relax, walk, move comfortable, and he clearly seemed more settled in general. Chey is such a beautiful girl in the best hands possible, recieving top notch care with you. Sending good thoughts Chey's way!
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/27/10 06:14 PM

Thinking of her and you....
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/27/10 09:50 PM

Thank you every single one of you. I am sorry if I sounded hysterical this morning...but I was. This is all so scarey

She rested alot today..panting on and off. She ate a good dinner and went up and down the stairs on her own....she refused to let my husband carry her...tough Georgia girl that she is. Walking seems a little better today. Breathing is bad upon walking and especially doing the stairs. The panting isn't constant anymore...dare I say I see a teeny tiny improvement?

Had her chicken soup today. It seems to help her.

Cain had his mommy Linda call me today. It was soo sweet...he wants her to send me a harness to try on Cheyenne to help her on the steps. Always thinking of his girl...Cain...you are too sweet..and so is your mom!

So..that's our update. Again...that you to everyone for helping me through this!! You will never know how much this means!! Praying for a peaceful night....
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/27/10 10:35 PM

I think the harness is a great idea to help her out on the days she is having problems. That will help ease your mind as well when you're alone with her and need to get her up and down. Sweet dreams Granny Chey and know we're all your biggest fans! Love ya Chey & Mary Ann!
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/27/10 11:00 PM

Keep that chicken soup in her Mary Ann. No concrete proof, but some scientists believe that there are anti-inflammatory properties in chicken soup!

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3958/is_200306/ai_n9276864/

Max didn't do well on Tramadol either. It took me a while to realize that his rear end swaying was from that. At least I'm pretty sure that was the problem, because when I took him off it it, his stability got better. However, he was on Rimadyl for a year. I know some people have had problems with it, but it was great for him. Never had any adverse reactions and I had my vet check his bloodwork every three months. Acupuncture was the other thing that kept him going.

I know it's scarey. Nothing is going to take that fear away, but try to enjoy each and every day with her. We can't predict what's going to happen and sometimes it's easy to get wrapped up in the caretaking and kind of forget the joy of their existence. I'm glad she's feeling a little better. Every day is a blessing! hugging
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/27/10 11:50 PM

Hey Mary Ann, I'm getting ready to upload a video my mom did of me and emailing to you. I'm telling Cheyenne to "get better"...you can tell by the video what I'm saying. She is so pretty and I am having my mommy send you a harness to see if that will help her. I wish she wasn't so far away from me......but she still can be my girlfriend. I love you Chey baby!

Love, Cain
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/28/10 12:18 AM

Chama became completely whacked out on Tremadol. I think it's a mild narcotic? Anyway, I'm glad to hear that she is moving on her own today. I think the harness is a great idea and my grandmother certainly would endorse chicken soup!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We Jews use it to cure everything. wink

Hang in there Chey! We are all pulling for you and the Comeback Kitten sends you especially good recovery energy! She is lying across my arm right now channeling healing energy into every letter I type. smile
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/28/10 07:26 AM

I am so happy to hear she is a bit better today. Sending you both all my most healing thoughts and prayers hugging
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/28/10 10:28 AM

Chey's strong spirit flows right through Mary Ann's posts. If you think that the support from members here is helpful to you, just imagine how Cheyenne's courage and your dedication buoy everyone on this thread.

Cheyenne and family are inspirational!

take care all of you,
MJ
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/28/10 12:15 PM

Seeing the vet at 3:45.

side note...Ava no longer wants to eat her food..looks at the food...looks at me....what the heck...this isn't chicken soup!
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/28/10 12:27 PM

Mary Ann I hear you with the home cooking thing. Early this week Lakota's new bag of food had some strange pieces in it. Of course Mr. Pancreatitis couldn't handle it. So until I could figure out what to do, I put him on home cooking. When I got a new bag of food he looked at the food and then at me.... "But Mom this is DOG Food"

Sending good Vibes to Cheyenne. I will check back later.
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/28/10 01:09 PM

thinking about you and your family again today mary ann. good luck at the vet's. take care.
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/28/10 04:37 PM

Ava knows something is not right. She knows Chey is not being herself. She probably is depressed and just not hungry. I'm sure she will start eating again. Don't worry about her....she'll be ok. You have enough to worry about right now. Maybe it's "not hungry" day.....Maggie did the same thing this morning to me and didn't eat her food. I offered it to her at lunch and she didn't eat then either. I pray for good news today at the vet. Hang in there girl!
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/28/10 05:05 PM

Cheyenne,

I guess the vet is prodding you now. Be brave, sweet girl.

all best wishes,
MJ
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/28/10 10:11 PM

Oh gosh, I'm so worried about Mary Ann & Chey. I was hoping she had posted some good news on here by now. frown
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/28/10 10:13 PM

I know, me too. I just emailed her...
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/28/10 10:55 PM

Many positive supportive vibes flowing out to Mary Ann and sweet Miss Chey from Grimm and me. We are wishing for only the very best outcome. gsdbeggin gsdbeggin gsdbeggin
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/28/10 11:10 PM

Hoping for good news. Maybe Mary Ann has just been busy with Cheyenne and Ava after the Vet appointment.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/28/10 11:41 PM

I'm SORRY! Such a whirlwind day!!

Vet thinks this is all pain related...he even thinks the stressed breathing is a manifestation of her pain. He does believe it's her hips. I asked about it possibly being her mammary tumor. It was noted that it is slightly infected...but he did not think it was enough to cause the intense pain she is in. He really thinks it's her hips.
The antiobiotic she is on should take care of her slight infection. She was put on previcox for her hip pain...and we'll see if this is the ticket.
She was also dehydrated...her gums were very tacky..so we have cut her back on her diuretic. (explains her excessive drinking)
She weighed in at 69 lbs. today!!
I had blood work done...will get results this weekend.

I am praying this is the answer..hips. It's so much better than some of the other dreadful things that ran through my mind.

Previcox should be monitored with frequent blood work due to it possibly affecting the liver. But he said he really wouldn't bother as if it's working for her...her quality of life is what is important now....so it's not like we would stop giving it....because...what he is trying to tell me is..she doesn't have long anyway...so quality is what we are going for...

that made me sad...thoughts on this? I hate thinking in those terms frown

Baby steps...my next goal for Cheyenne is CHRISTMAS!
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/29/10 12:04 AM

Thank goodness for this report Mary Ann. Now I can go to sleep! :-) Seriously, I really hope it's something that can be managed with better pain meds. Like you, I was worried that there were too many other things going wrong, causing the pain/heavy breathing, etc.

PS - I can't wait to see Chey dressed up in her Christmas digs! Sweet dreams to both of you - I know it's been an exhausting day, both physically and emotionally.
Posted by: matsired

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/29/10 12:08 AM

"I am praying this is the answer..hips. It's so much better than some of the other dreadful things that ran through my mind."

No matter what or where the pain is, the bottom line is that it is being treated appropriately now. Someone mentioned sending Cheyenne a harness, and that is a wonderful idea. I managed Sherman this way-high doses of pain meds, antiinflammatory meds, bedrest, and a harness. I think harnesses are way under-rated. A good harness will help protect Cheyenne from re-injuring herself. Her muscular-skeletal system will be all out of alignment due to compensating for the pain, and a harness will help with this.

Not sure what kind of bedding she is sleeping on, but anything along the lines of memory foam will also help. Something that will help support her hips as well as keep her warm.

And joint supplements of course. I've had lame seniors get up and run within weeks of starting them.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/29/10 12:18 AM

Mary Ann I hope that the Previcox is the ticket to her pain. Did you talk with the Vet about just leaving her on ABX instead of on again off again and she spirals downward? My feeling is that if you can get the pain knocked down to a tolerable level for her she will have more energy to stay with you. Pain drains energy and it just to damn hard to want to fight.

I hope you and Cheyenne can get a good nights sleep. I hope the pain meds work and she feels sassy enough to nip you in the tush again.
Sending positive thoughts to Cheyenne.
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/29/10 12:39 AM

previcox helped the shepster alot...glad to read your update, so far so good...one day at a time. bless your heart dear granny chey.
Posted by: matsired

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/29/10 12:46 AM

"....because...what he is trying to tell me is..she doesn't have long anyway...so quality is what we are going for...that made me sad...thoughts on this? I hate thinking in those terms.

Baby steps...my next goal for Cheyenne is CHRISTMAS!"

Maryann,

My first thought is this. With dogs like Cheyenne (and my Chewbacca, Millie, Sherman, and now Sophie), every new day is a blessing. There are days when we can rejoice, but then there are many days when all we can do is pray. It goes with the territory.

My second thought is this. Remember the life Cheyenne came from, and envision how her life would have ended had you not stepped up for her. Remember the goals you established for her when you brought her home, to provide her with the best quality life possible, however long that may be. You have made a tremendous difference in her life, Maryann. You are her hero.

My third thought is this. Christmas is a good goal, as long as you can keep perspective. For example, with my Millie, I had our annual picnic as a goal. Two days prior, I realized, Millie couldn't comfortably make it that far. She was ready to cross the bridge before I was ready to let her go. That was very hard for me. Fearing I would lose perspective, I reached out for help with this, and in the end, I was able to put her needs ahead of my own, and let her go on her terms.

You've done a really, REALLY good job with Cheyenne. Good nurse and good friend. Recognizing our limitations and reaching out for answers and support makes us very strong advocates. She is very blessed.
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/29/10 07:44 AM

I hope the new meds work well and fast for beautiful Chey. hugging to you both.
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/29/10 11:08 AM

Hey Mary Ann, thanks for replying to my email. I was so worried last night.
I tracked the harness....coming Fed-x.....says scheduled delivery is Sat. It is not a real expensive one, but I'm hoping it can help her. Is there any way your hubby could build some kind of a ramp for her to get in and out? Seems like that would be easier to manuver than stairs. Also, I will keep trying to get the video Cain did for Cheyenne uploaded this weekend. Continued prayers for you all!
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/29/10 12:02 PM

Mary Ann,

Cheyenne is loving every minute of her life with you and your wonderful family-every single day is a gift. You both know that.

Thanks very much for the update-so many people care so much about her.

Mary Jane
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/29/10 07:22 PM

THE OLD CHEYENNE IS BACK!!
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/29/10 07:25 PM

party And the crowd goes WILD!! party

Mary Ann, Grimm and I are cheering right along with you!! Your special wonderful girl, Miss Chey. Such a beloved superstar she is! I am delighted to hear that she is feeling beter. You Mary Ann are doing an absolutely ophenomenal job of caring for Cheyenne. So very lucky is she, with such wonderful care!
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/29/10 07:36 PM

YEA Cheyenne Good Girl. Mary Ann I am sure from your post that you feel much better. I am glad the new pain meds worked.

Have a good weekend you guys deserve some relaxing good time.
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/29/10 07:56 PM

This is terrific news!!!! party
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/29/10 08:43 PM

octoberfest

Woohoo! A time to celebrate!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/29/10 08:48 PM

You guys are the BEST!! I'm smiling more than I already was!!

It is like a huge mountain got lifted off my shoulders! I can't tell you how wonderful it is to see that spark in her eyes again...to see her mosey around the house to see what we're doing..to see her tail wag....it's AWESOME!!

She's wonky of course and I can't wait to try out Cain's harness..Cain said he had his mommy mail it asap and is hoping it helps his girlfriend...he's such a caring guy smile (no..I can't build a ramp unfortunately as our basement is ground level...our living area is a floor up)

I was thinking....how about if I support her liver with natural supplements to ward off or lesson problems from the previcox?

WHAT A GLORIOUS DAY!! smile
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/29/10 10:30 PM

SOOOOO happy to hear that Chey is doing better!!!

So, you know what that means - we want pictures of our Miss Cheyenne! wink

You are such a wonderful soul for caring for her as much as you do! Makes me so happy to know that there are people like you (and others on this board especially) caring for our GSD's! smile
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/29/10 10:44 PM

Dear Ladies-How you have lifted all spirits-all hopes.

from the bottom of my heart,
Mary Ann, thanks for the good news,
Mary Jane
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/30/10 12:19 AM

GET OUT!!!...that's so great mary ann...i am SO GLAD. it's been a really, really, hard day here, and i was almost afraid to pop in for an update...that is such wonderful news!

every day you have with her is a blessing, as is every day she's had with you. take care.
Posted by: matsired

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/30/10 03:58 AM

Excellent news!
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/30/10 07:20 AM

party I am so happy to read this wonderful news!!!! Keep up the good work Chey by letting your mum breathe a bit easier now! smile

Katieliz - I hope you are all ok? Sending you hugging
Posted by: LJsMom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/31/10 07:51 AM

Originally Posted By: myamom
I was thinking....how about if I support her liver with natural supplements to ward off or lesson problems from the previcox?


I think it would be a good idea. I use the one that LisaT uses - Country Life Liver Support Factors.
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/31/10 11:45 AM

Excellent!!!! I have been wondering and almost afraid to look - I wish I would have read from the last posts!

I used the Denamarin from Nutramax - formulated specifically to be effectively used by the dog. http://www.nutramaxlabs.com/vet/products/Denamarin.aspx
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/31/10 09:45 PM

HAPPY HALLOWEEN TO ALL MY DEAR FRIENDS






LOVE,

CHEYENNE


pumpkinhi
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/31/10 09:50 PM

What a beauty!!! Happiest Halloween to you Chey and to you Mary Ann!
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/01/10 12:32 AM

happy halloween to you too, you sweet girl. and to your family!
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/01/10 06:07 AM

Happy Halloween beautiful girl! wub So good to see you smile
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/01/10 11:31 AM

I just love her.

I'm so glad that Cheyenne is with you, Mary Ann. She finally got the life she always deserved.

Pretty girl,
bye,
MJ
Posted by: LJsMom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/02/10 06:57 PM

Happy Halloween Cheyenne!
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/02/10 07:49 PM

Just checking in on the beautiful and spunky Cheyenne! Hope she's still doing well.
Posted by: 4dognight

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/02/10 09:19 PM

I am so happy to hear great news!! I have been afraid to look!!!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/03/10 11:02 AM

My whole family has some kind of bug? food poisoning? lol...don't know...but we're all under the weather. In addition to not feeling well..I was working the polls yesterday...so of course...that's when the vet called me back with blood work results.

He talked about her being on the verge of being septic and slight chronic pneumonia? or something like that. sepsis and pneumonia were thrown at me...as well as putting her on stronger antibiotic....

I will get more details...........
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/03/10 11:06 AM

Oh no for all.

Sepsis is really scary - oh my.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/03/10 11:44 AM

Mary Ann,

Please take care of yourself. When you have strength then take care of all your wonderful skin and fur family.

Please keep us posted when you can,

Mary Jane
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/03/10 01:23 PM

Mary Ann, Sending all of you healing vibes.

The Sepsis would sound right with her having problems every time she goes off ABX recently. Hopefully they can get a strong ABX in and start kicking this quickly.

http://www.petmd.com/dog/conditions/systemic/c_dg_septicemia_bacteremia
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/03/10 05:48 PM

Oh no frown Sending you all healing thoughts hugging
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/03/10 10:03 PM

Oh crap.....hope ya'll get well soon.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/04/10 12:40 PM

Good morning Mary Ann,

I really hope that you all feel better.

When you get the chance, an update would be great.

take care,
MJ
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/04/10 01:12 PM

Not sure if she will be able to post as she just emailed me she is extremely sick still. Get better Mary Ann!
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/06/10 02:15 AM

hoping you and your family are feeling better soon mary ann, being sick is just the worst. take care.
Posted by: PositiveDog

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/06/10 08:59 AM

I hope you are well soon and Chey also finds the right med for her. What a tough time for you. hugging
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/08/10 08:48 PM

i know no news is supposed to be good news, but no news always makes me nervous. mary ann, you and your family are on my mind.
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/09/10 12:13 PM

I emailed her yesterday to check up on them, but haven't heard anything. Hope ya'll are feeling better.
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/10/10 07:14 AM

Just wanted to let everyone know that I spoke to Mary Ann last night for a few minutes. I was worried as she hadn't replied to any of my emails. She is alive, but has been very sick. sick

She said she was just starting to feel half way alive again. I'm sure she will be on here in a few days for an update. Cheyenne is hanging in there with her as well, but didn't want to talk long - just wanted to hear that she was ok.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/10/10 11:50 AM

Lori, thanks for checking on Mary Ann and posting an update for us. We worry about our friends when we don't see them online.

Mary Ann I hope you feel better soon.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/10/10 06:57 PM

Hi...thank you for caring! Ugh...never so sick...nasty stomach virus...spent a whole week on the couch..couldn't hold down anything. Finally starting to eat and get about today. Ava spent the whole week on the couch with me..very concerned.gosh I love that girl! Cheyenne layed quietly by the couch..what a good girl. I haven't been able to check in with vet yet.

Here's some good news...it's officially ONE YEAR since Cheyenne was pulled from the shelter. Shelter advised she needed to be euth'd...rescue's vet also advised the same. But Southern Cross gave her chance...against the odds!
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/10/10 08:03 PM

a year!!! how can that be??? very glad to know you're okay (and chey too).
Posted by: matsired

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/10/10 09:25 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom

Here's some good news...it's officially ONE YEAR since Cheyenne was pulled from the shelter. Shelter advised she needed to be euth'd...rescue's vet also advised the same. But Southern Cross gave her chance...against the odds!


Wow. Happy first rebirthday, Cheyenne! And thank-you to both Southern Cross and to Maryann for blessing you with opportunities to succeed.

Look forward to following you through the rest of your amazing life. With lots more pictures, of course, once your mom is feeling better (glad it wasn't the flu!).
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/11/10 12:13 AM

First, Happy Anniversary Cheyenne - that is truly remarkable and speaks to the care she has been getting since being pulled.

Second, Mary Ann - you are our first Parvo survivor! happyboogie
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/11/10 02:00 AM

Yikes--got your slippery elm, activated charcoal, canned pumpkin and chicken and overcooked rice on hand? wink

Glad you're feeling better and wow, wow, wow to the amazing Cheyenne! She is determined to get the most out of her retirement years! She sure picked the right foster home to land in!
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/11/10 11:24 AM

Mary Ann,

I'm so glad to see you here and so glad that you're feeling well enough to post.

Sounds like you had some great nursing staff during your illness.

Also, may I thank you for noting Cheyenne's anniversary with you. She only beat the odds because of you.

take care,
MJ
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/12/10 12:19 PM

Hey Mary Ann,
I'm glad to hear to are starting to feel some better. Hope you improve with each day. I was to scared to call you....last time I called I got all teary eyed.


!!!! CHEYENNE... HAPPY 1 YEAR BIRTHDAY WITH THE GREATEST MOM EVER!!!!!
Posted by: lil'mister

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/12/10 05:55 PM

A year already!!! Happy ReBirthday Cheyenne and praying you have lots of time to continue enjoying your new life.

Thank you Maryanne for your continued devotion to a well deserving girl. Probably the best year Cheyenne has ever had angel
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/12/10 06:29 PM

WOW what a year it has been, some good some bad. Let's hope Cheyenne has some more good time left.
Posted by: vonangeles

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/12/10 07:20 PM

Happy 1 year!
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/14/10 06:33 PM

Thinking of Mary Ann and Cheyenne. Praying all is ok.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/15/10 08:22 PM

awww...thank you smile

Turned out along with the viral...I had a bacterial infection in my stomach. So now on antibiotics and meds 6 x a day...between that and Cheyenne's meds...it's all I do...lol. Hope I don't get them mixed up smile

Gave Cheyenne a good scrubbing today. She's been scratching alot and I found a critter crawl through her fur again...sigh. I don't get it...we've had frost here many times..so I doubt she should be getting fleas outside. Inside...I've cleaned top to bottom and we've never seen a flea. I really don't want to frontline her again.
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/15/10 08:34 PM

Glad to hear you're feeling better Maryann. Fleas and ticks seem to come and go with the warm cycles. A dog of a friend of mine contracted Lyme's in February a couple of years ago
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/15/10 09:08 PM

Mary Ann,

You're just so sweet that all kinds of organisms want to live with you (or is that in you)! I'm very glad to hear from you.

Miss Cheyenne, your fan club awaits.

Ladies, take it easy,
MJ
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/15/10 11:13 PM

Thanks MJ smile

geez...I just caught myself wrapping my meds in a slice of cheese!!
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/16/10 01:50 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHA... glad your feeling better... a little cheese never hurt anyone! wink
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/16/10 02:09 AM

wrapping your meds in a slice of cheese...lol, too funny!
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/16/10 06:20 AM

Glad you are on the mend hugging
Posted by: Woodreb

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/16/10 10:32 AM

laugh Anything to make meds easier to swallow.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/23/10 04:08 PM

Cheyenne had her recheck today. She had another blood test and we will see if her white count is going down (it was extremely high on her last test). Dr. said he thinks maybe due to a URI she has. She still hasn't shaken it and we are going back on antibiotics. Lungs and heart sound great. Heartworm negative. She had a nasty yeast infection in her ear which had to be cleaned out. While she moaned and whined...she was so sweet and tolerant. Dr. can't believe what a sweet temperment she has...especially given her background and health issues.
Blood work also showed liver disease...of course...is there anything she doesn't have? frown
I saw the Dr.'s face when he felt her tumor...I wasn't even up to discussing it today...it's very depressing. It is now very lobulated looking.
She is doing great hips wise...and I ran out of prevacox a few days ago. While I have filled the prescription...I am going to ask the Dr. if I should just keep it on hand as needed...or maybe just a dose ever few days for maintenance...as she clearly doesn't need it every day. I forgot to ask that today...will ask when he calls with blood work results.
oh...no fleas! Must have been a straggler I found.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/23/10 04:23 PM

EEEEK! This is GREAT! smile

Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/23/10 09:17 PM

OMGOSH, that'S fabulous!
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/23/10 09:20 PM

That is great! I liked seeing it in Active Topics, so I was waiting until someone else posted to say anything smile
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/23/10 09:20 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom
EEEEK! This is GREAT! smile



SPARKLING WHITE! Perfect for her. wub

Is that HW negative I saw?

What is the deal with the wine - is it on the blog?!? Whoops - just admitted I haven't looked at the blog in over a week. blush
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/23/10 09:51 PM

I didn't even get the "sparkling white" until you said something, Jean! I was so busy trying to figure out what it was all about that I didn't focus on the most important thing! What a great fundraising idea!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/23/10 10:01 PM

Info should be on the Cheyenne/Stormy and family blog soon smile
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/23/10 10:08 PM

it's up

http://southerncrossgsdrescue.blogspot.com/
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/24/10 10:17 AM

OK, Mary Ann Southern Cross just started and finished my Christmas shopping. Their wine packages are really wonderful and with the portraits of lives saved, it is just too good to pass up.

Knowing a tiny bit about Miss Cheyenne and her blossoming under your care, the Sparkling White may become a house wine here, at least for a while.

Happy Thanksgiving to Mary Ann's Family! (and All the Residents of German Shepherd Home!)

Mary Jane
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/24/10 12:14 PM

AWWWWW...Check out the back label!


Here is the back: Cheyenne is the Grand Old Dame of Southern Cross GSD Rescue! Cheyenne is a "senior" rescue that was surrendered to a high kill shelter here in GA suffering from Heartworm Disease and Cancer. Because of her age there is little we can do but make sure that her life is full of love and kindness and thanks to a wonderful Hospice Foster Home in PA, Cheyenne has a family that not only loves and cares for her but a family with children that ADORE everything about her! If you are having a glass of Cheyenne's Sparkling White please give a toast to Cheyenne and the family that is showing her the meaning of true love!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/24/10 12:15 PM

Happy Thanksgiving to all...there is so much to be thankful for!! I am thankful for my dear friends here...who have given us so much love and support...without you...this journey would have been so difficult. Thank you!!
Posted by: lil'mister

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/24/10 03:45 PM

Ahhhhh!!!! I can't buy!!!! Not allowed to ship to PA frown Guess the Sparkling Cheyenne on here will have to do wub

But cheers to a great fundraising idea.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/24/10 04:02 PM

Me either...the irony...LOL. We'll have to set up a transport...LOL
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/27/10 02:45 PM

Vet just called...blood work has improved DRASTICALLY!! Still not perfect...but definitely the white count has come down ALOT. smile
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/27/10 03:06 PM

partyHooray! happyboogie Mary Ann, thank you for sharing this update with us! Good blood values are good blood values! thumbup Any improvement, even when things aren't "normal" is something to CHEER about! Cheyenne, we all love you so very much! wub Paws crossed for continued improvements and stability for Cheyenne's health. crossedfingers Sending good thoughts and vibes Miss Cheyenne's way! butterfly
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/27/10 03:22 PM

Mary Ann that is GREAT news...... Improvement in any amount is HUGE for Granny Cheyenne.
3penguins3penguins3penguins3penguins penguin_spin
Posted by: LJsMom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/27/10 03:27 PM

Woo hoo!
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 11/27/10 04:28 PM

That is brilliant to hear!!!!!!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/04/10 01:24 PM

Well...winter is here in NE PA!! Snow is falling...wind is blowing...there is a crisp chill in the air. Perfect weather to get us in the Holiday spirit!! We spent time putting up our Christmas decorations...our tree...and there was an excitement in the air...everyone feels it...that anticipation of the Holidays.........even the dogs got into it!! smile









er...maybe I'm exaggerating a bit...
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/04/10 01:25 PM

They supervised!! Yes...that's it!
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/04/10 02:09 PM

spitcoffee

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Scrooge McDucks! That is so cute. They looked so bored and almost eyeroll . rofl
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/04/10 02:22 PM

Oh how funny! Yep, I'm with Jean - they look SO thrilled (NOT!)... Cheyenne wrapped up in that blanket reminds me of a big candy cane. Must be the colors in the blanket and her gorgeous snowy white coat. I missed your post about the bloodwork - great news!!
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/04/10 03:47 PM

I think Cheyenne looks extremely comfy. The excitement over the decorating was just underwhelming, but the dogs are smart....... They want presents, then the excitement will be there.
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/04/10 03:59 PM

They are German SHEPHERDS...after herding all of the blankets and pillows in the house onto the couch their job was then to protect them...
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/04/10 04:03 PM

Hahaha... LAM that's too funny.

THose are the sweetest photo's ever!!!
Posted by: LJsMom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/04/10 05:28 PM

So cute!
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/05/10 07:15 AM

They are doing a great job of containing their excitement! Sweet Cheyenne all snuggled up keeping warm with her head on her pillow....wub
Posted by: wsumner

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/06/10 02:18 PM

Myamom,
Thank you for everything you have done for sweet Cheyenne. Without your love and refusal to give up on her, she would not be here today. hugging
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/07/10 09:55 AM

OOOps I missed a Cheyenne photo-session. Thank goodness it's still here.

I also just made a wine purchase from Southern Cross, but it's a gift. I still have to order my own "Sparkling White" for my own smiling Ms Cheyenne label.

Thanks, Mary Ann,
Mary Jane
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/07/10 10:57 AM

awwww...Thank you so much MJ!!!!
Posted by: matsired

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/09/10 10:58 AM

Originally Posted By: myamom
Well...winter is here in NE PA!! Snow is falling...wind is blowing...there is a crisp chill in the air. Perfect weather to get us in the Holiday spirit!! We spent time putting up our Christmas decorations...our tree...and there was an excitement in the air...everyone feels it...that anticipation of the Holidays.........even the dogs got into it!! smile

er...maybe I'm exaggerating a bit...






Mary Ann,

Maybe THIS will help get them into the groove? wink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUtPKbMwnRo
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/21/10 09:55 AM

Mary is home sick today...but Cheyenne is taking care of her smile



Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/21/10 11:27 AM

That is so sweet... wub
Posted by: Woodreb

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/21/10 11:30 AM

Dogs are such great commiserators when we don't feel good.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/21/10 11:33 AM

Sorry to hear that Mary is under the weather, but a better nurse she couldn't find.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/21/10 11:37 AM

Oh Mary Ann, I feel a cold coming on, can I come to your house?

really sweet pictures,
thanks,
MJ
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 07:59 AM

I think a little dose of Cheyenne is what everyone needs when they are feeling down.

Great photo's!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 09:21 AM

Thanks guys...she has been super cuddly lately...I thought oh how sweet...and bam........


SHE'S IN HEAT AGAIN!!

I can't for the life of me think of how to put anything on her...her tumor is HUGE...HELP. I'm really sad about this...I think the heat cycles really exacerbate her tumor...and had hoped she wasn't due again until March...and it was my plan to take her to a specialist right after Christmas to see if we had any options.

House is a mess...shopping not done...no baking cooking..company coming..now this...yikes. How do I handle THIS. frown
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 09:24 AM

yes...please talk me down...I'm hyperventilating...lol
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 09:32 AM

Yikes! I can't believe she is in heat again! Poor girl and poor YOU!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 09:34 AM

I know...can you believe it.

and I can't put anything on her...that huge tumor is in the way...and she's bleeding all over my house...and and...deep breath...I need chocolate...
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 09:38 AM

Would a towel be big enough to wrap around her and then use safety pins to hold it on?
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 09:43 AM


I'm trying to wrap my brain around that...picturing anatomy...towel...hmmmm....gotta drink more coffee...let me see what I can rig up...lol...ok...seriously...I'm trying...but I'm really not laughing...
oh...that will be just lovely for my Holiday guests....





hammer
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 09:45 AM

LOL - think of the towel as a giant diaper. Go buy a red and green christmas towel and then she will fit right in!
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 09:46 AM

oh...you might have to cut a spot for her tail - maybe that was what was keeping you from picturing it! haha
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 09:47 AM

Nice try Lori...I'm still not laughing

silly
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 09:55 AM

Mary Ann,

You mentioned some time ago about how large Cheyenne's tumor has grown and I had the feeling that the pictures we saw here just didn't show the tumor. I can't imagine the anatomy and I only can guess how you're trying to cope. Can you rig an elastic belt with a pad pinned at the ends-like old fashioned sanitary napkin?

I do wish I could help you, you help so many others.

all the best,
Mary Jane
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 10:22 AM

MJ...it now has large nodular bulges all over it...they are recent...so I think her heat cycle makes the tumor grow. I think the nodular protrusions are because her skin is just so maxed out...

I'll try some of these suggestions..but in the end...I think I'll just have to put her in a room when we get company...and otherwise...keep cleaning up after her...I'm not sure anything will work. I'll see..I'll let you guys know.

Thank you so much...I think I just needed encouragement...please keep her in your thoughts and prayers..
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 10:32 AM

Called my vet as they had wanted an update on her URI and I told them she went into heat...and how the tumor was looking.

They said to Love her and make her happy. frown

I told them I wanted to see a specialist...and of course now that has to be on hold as they couldn't do anything while she's in heat even if there was anything to try...

So..I guess we wait...and if she makes it....we make an appt. with a specialist after her heat cycle.
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 10:33 AM

Just a thought, since I had terrible pains from cysts during my period, how do dogs react to progesterone? Once I had the IUD that releases the progesterone put it, the cysts stopped growing. Women with endometriosis have done very will on the Depo Provera because that is progesterone.

I wonder if something along that line would help Cheyenne?
Posted by: lil'mister

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 10:34 AM

You could always get an adult sized diaper (they do come pretty large). When you put it on cut a hole for her tail. It would be large enough to securely fasten around her waist and very absorptive.
Just a thought.....
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 10:35 AM

I am keeping you both in my thoughts and prayers hugging I so wish I could help you, even do some shopping for you, something to take away some stress hugging
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 10:57 AM

Here's an interesting article.

http://veterinarynews.dvm360.com/dvm/Med...e/detail/666585
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 10:58 AM

awww...thank you. Just the thoughts, suggestions and being there for me...really help so much!!

Did you guys already figure it out...I am extremely squeamish..and this tumor...I have a hard time even looking at it...and I get overwhelmed thinking about the future and I feel helpless sometimes...and angry and sad...and...can't believe I'm doing this...yet..I'm glad I have her..but I don't know how to do this....oh...I'm blabbing.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 11:19 AM

Mary Ann, I know it is sad. BUT Cheyenne has had a wonderful life with you and she wouldn't trade any of the precious time she has for any thing in the world. Remember a while back we talked about small milestones, Christmas was on the list. Cheyenne is living the best of her life with you and your family. We can't change what happened to her in the past, we can only help her in the here and now.

I am going to go do some reading on something. Since you are seeing an increase in activity/size of the tumors, it is logical to assume that they are estrogen fed. I have an idea that I was to check out for the heat cycles.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 11:37 AM

Thank you Val!!


I just know she can't last much longer on the track she's going.

and for my notes...since I never got around to reading "heat for dummies"...

This explains why I have had to sleep on the couch with her for over the past month...she was so needy and clingy and I felt so sorry for her...I just had the sense that she needed to be with me...that something was different...those pics of her and Mary...that's how she sleeps with me every night.

This explains why she lost 1000 dogs worth of fur......and is now down to a thin layer of outer coat.

Thank you...I've got to focus on "here and now"!!
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 11:53 AM

Originally Posted By: myamom
...I just had the sense that she needed to be with me......


Miss Cheyenne needed to be with you when she was called a senior with heartworm and cancer. You and your beautiful family revealed the charm, devotion, wit, and loyalty under that (formerly) shabby white coat.

Now she wants to be with you for the simple reason that she loves you. She will leave this earth with love, whenever she goes. That part is certain.

For everything else, the here and now is worth attention because you can accomplish something-bake cookies-whatever, while you have already done EVERYTHING that Cheyenne needs.

take care,
MJ
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 12:08 PM

MaryAnn,

Cheyenne's quality of life has been superlative since you welcomed her into your home. Her prognosis has always been terrible yet she has not only recovered from one health crisis after another and really thrived in the care of you and your family. Please try to keep that front and center in your heart and in your brain. hugging

I do not think it will be the end of the world if you put her in a room, with old sheets and towels on the floor, when your company comes. You could give her a nice bone to chew on or something.

Did you get that chocolate yet? Wish you lived here--I just bought 4 bars of really good stuff yesterday. wink
Posted by: matsired

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 12:47 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom
since I never got around to reading "heat for dummies"...I've got to focus on "here and now"!!


Hi Mary Ann,

I never read that book, either, so can't help you there, lol. But I do use washable incontinent pads for my dogs, and love them. Of course, walking around the house bleeding wouldn't be as manageable this way. But what about extra large adult diapers for obese people? Or stretch stocking underwear with a pad inside?

This 'may' not be a normal heat cycle, is that correct?

If the exterior tumor is growing as you describe, then I do wonder what 'may' be going on internally in her uterus. Signs of excessive bleeding, just in case these things develop:

*Excessive panting and fast breathing
*Very fast heart rate and/or abnormal rhythm
*Pale gums
*Abdominal/pelvic distention
*Excessive external bleeding
*Pain (does she appear to have pain?)

As you said, our seniors force us to live in the moment, especially those fragile ones like Cheyenne (and my Sherman). Very hard to know which step to take next, other than loving her.

For ME, I gauge it like this:

*How is my dog doing right now, in terms of quality of life?

*If I get the vet involved, how invasive will the workup/intervention be?

*Will those interventions cause my dog pain, and to what extent?

*What are the chances those interventions will make a significant difference in my dog's life, or is there a better chance they will just put us on a road to nowhere?

*If things get out of control here, and my dog starts to deteriorate very quickly, what will my next step be?

*Can I, and how do I, get my dog to my car, with or without help, if she becomes unconscious or too painful to move?

*Where is the closest vet who is available nights and weekends?

*Will my vet make housecalls?

*Do I have backup numbers of vets who make house calls?

*Will my 8yo niece be ok, and which pieces do I want to protect her from?

*What do I think my dog's wishes/needs are right now? Am I reading his/her signals correctly, or should I have another set of trusting eyes to help me?

*Am I willing to help my dog cross the bridge when he/she is ready, even if I am not ready?

*What are my plans to take care of my own emotions, once my dog has passed?

Just writing off the top of my head, in case any of this can help you, or anyone else, in the long run. I find the list (mental list in my case) helpful when I am under duress and start scrambling to make decisions.

Not that you are scrambling to make decisions. It's a 'just in case' list.

As Ruth mentioned, she's overcome so much already, as we've seen so many fragile seniors do along the way. As they say, medicine is more of an art than a science, and sometimes just loving them the way you and your family have loved Cheyenne, will be just enough to keep recharging her.

hugging



Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 01:41 PM

Donna has a great check list. But it is entirely possible that it is just a normal cycle. First I have never had a bitch that read a book on what is normal. Normal cycles on bitches is what is normal for them, they can be any where from 3 months to 8 months apart. I have a bitch right now that cycles every 3 months, I have missed on the timing so many times on getting her spayed.... GGRRRR.

If this cycle looks like her previous one then I would relax. It is possible that her cycles got all out of wack before you got her and now she is like a young dog starting all over again and some times their cycles are irregular in timing.

There is a drug that will stop her from cycling. I would try to find a Reproductive Vet because there are going to be the ones that would be using this drug. It is Mibolerone (Cheque Drops). It is a steroid that works to block the estrogen and progesterone. That could be a good thing if the tumors appear to be estrogen related. http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=0+1303+1466&aid=1386
http://www.rxnations.com/animal/drugsummaries/mibolerone.php

Monitoring the Liver functions is important especially in older bitches.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 02:03 PM

I just went back through this thread for exact date...last heat was the end of August...so that would be 4 months. Hoping this is just normal for her. So far...looks to be starting out just like the last time.

No excessive panting or acting in distress...is happy, alert, playful, eating. The tumor just makes me so terrified.

Why I want to go to a specialist? I want to hear...what I'm in store for...are there any options...risks...pro's cons. If he said..wow...at this rate..she has maybe a month...we can try surgery...she has a 50/50 shot...but if successful could buy her a year or more...I think it would probably be worth it? He may say...she's too far gone to do anything. I just need to hear...something. I feel like I'm in this blind and helpless. I want to know what to expect if I do nothing...will this tumor rupture...I can't see how it won't. Will i find her in a pool of blood...see...these are the things that keep me up at night.

So..I'm going to make an appt. Thank you Southern Cross for allowing me to do this. I will ask about that drug Val...thank you. I do believe her blood work showed liver disease? (have to go back in the thread again...so much to remember)...if so...we'll see how that factors in.


Sorry...not great Holiday talk. Hey...I did make Chicken soup...when all else fails...and I don't know what to do...I make her Chicken soup smile

Ruth...I was just at the school to help the kids make gingerbread houses...cut it short so I could come home and check on Cheyenne...but the teacher gave me chocolate as a thank you...off to eat that now!
Posted by: gsdraven

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 02:05 PM

hugging

Cheyenne is so lucky to have you. Sorry I can't offer wisdom, just support.
Posted by: Lexi

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 02:11 PM

Originally Posted By: gsdraven
hugging

Cheyenne is so lucky to have you. Sorry I can't offer wisdom, just support.


Ditto that. hugging
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 02:36 PM

MaryAnn, with the Cheque Drops it is some thing you really need to think about. It is something she would have to have every day, because if you miss then it can trigger the heat cycle. This is one of those catch 22 thing, damned if you do damned if you don't. Blocking hormones that might be making the tumors grow bigger/faster verses liver damage. The deal with the Reproductive Specialist is that they will know way more about the use of Cheque Drops than most Vets.

This is my out of the box thinking. Not sure if it is a good thing or bad thing.

She has come such a long way. She has a lot of determination to stay as long as she can and soak up all the love.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 04:46 PM

OH NO!! I WAS WRONG!!

Yep...just call me a big stupido in all this.

So..I notice her licking at her tumor...I got out a flashlight and inspected it...eeeeek...but had to do it...and there is a bleeding spot on it...like an ulceration on it...not good.

Have a call into my vet
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 04:56 PM

Maybe it will slowly drain?

Let us know what the vet says. Green Tea compresses will help.

Thinking of you guys hugging
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 05:04 PM

OH shoot...scrooge
Sending calming vibes to you MaryAnn and my best strength and healing vibes to Cheyenne...... grouphug
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 05:17 PM

I don't think so Lisa...it's more like an ulcer..that'a bleeding. I am praying...maybe it's just irretated from rubbing or something. Her skin is soooo thin and it does hit the ground sometimes when she squats, etc.

I have an appt. with the vet tomorrow to see what he can do...and then I will tell him I want to see a specialist asap.

How do I do a green tea compress?
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 05:36 PM

I want to think that this is her body's way of fighting and that this is a good thing, but I'm probably wrong. I am still going to think those positive thoughts until it's for sure not true!

The compress, I just make some really strong tea, and while the tea is still warm, sop a rag with the tea and gently hold it on the ulcer. Of course, if the ulcer is a sore where this would be irritating, that won't work. I know folks that have used this for mast cell tumors with good success.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 05:40 PM

Ok..I'll give it a try...thanks Lisa!!
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 05:43 PM

crossedfingers
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 06:30 PM

Sending good healing, positive thoughts to Chey, and wanted to let you know that I am thinking of you as you try to support Chey.
Posted by: PositiveDog

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 07:59 PM

I am so sorry to read all this. Whatever the outcome, Cheyenne has had such a great live with your family. Does she know she is world famous?

Hugs to you and you kids and all my hopes that Cheyenne does well tomorrow at the vet.

hugging
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 08:50 PM

a thousand times crossedfingers

mj
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 09:25 PM

You know, I have been afraid to look here because I share your squeamishness (never touched Kyah's stump, etc) and was afraid you had posted pics.

I think seeing the vet tomorrow (did you know they have sold enough Snuggies for 1 in 12 Americans to have one - just think cozy) and asking for a quick referral is a good plan. And if they say what will it accomplish, sometimes just doing it is enough.

hugging
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 09:39 PM

I knew it Jean...I'll email you pictures when you least suspect it. Gotta take some new ones...now that it's all huge and lumpy and ulcerated.

Some snazzy prints out now Jean..but maybe not appropriate..what do ya think...a subdued but chic look?

Wanted to have my husband double check it for me to make sure I was correct in my assessment...and he WOULDN'T either. Sheesh...so I had to go in for a 2nd assessment. ugh. It's about the size of a dime. It's on the bottom of her tumor...that lies on the floor...I'm wondering if it's from pressure...kinda like a bed sore? I pray that it's something like that...because of course I had to google..and saw something about ulcerating mammary tumors having bad prognosis.....
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 09:42 PM

Pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase don't. grin Can you believe all my relatives (and many friends) are nurses? sick

It could be a pressure sore. It would be interesting if there was a way to sling it without making it so that it's not getting air.

See, I can't even talk about it without getting a little freaked, so I give you much credit for all you are doing.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 09:47 PM

Tumor.....in a sling....ok...I won't be sleeping tonight!
Posted by: matsired

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 09:53 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom
I don't think so Lisa...it's more like an ulcer..that'a bleeding. I am praying...maybe it's just irretated from rubbing or something. Her skin is soooo thin and it does hit the ground sometimes when she squats, etc.

I have an appt. with the vet tomorrow to see what he can do...and then I will tell him I want to see a specialist asap.

How do I do a green tea compress?


Mary Ann,

That makes perfect sense to me. If the tumor is larger now, good chance she has developed an ulceration, both because the tumor tissue is more fragile than normal tissue, and because she may be lying on it or other body parts are compressing it.

Also, sometimes external tumors can develop ridges that start bleeding. That would be a little more difficult to manage.

Good luck tomorrow. My gut tells me this will work out ok, as there are LOTS of products on the market that can handle this situation if it is indeed an ulceration. Let me know if there is anything I can do.
Posted by: matsired

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 09:56 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom
I knew it Jean...I'll email you pictures when you least suspect it. Gotta take some new ones...now that it's all huge and lumpy and ulcerated.

Some snazzy prints out now Jean..but maybe not appropriate..what do ya think...a subdued but chic look?

Wanted to have my husband double check it for me to make sure I was correct in my assessment...and he WOULDN'T either. Sheesh...so I had to go in for a 2nd assessment. ugh. It's about the size of a dime. It's on the bottom of her tumor...that lies on the floor...I'm wondering if it's from pressure...kinda like a bed sore? I pray that it's something like that...because of course I had to google..and saw something about ulcerating mammary tumors having bad prognosis.....



Mary Ann,

Send it to me, I LOVE this kind of stuff! crazy
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 10:02 PM

Thank goodness for Donna and all the nurses in the world! I had a roommate who would do cardiac stuff and they would be eating donuts while waiting for things to be put back together!

Sorry Mary Ann - tumor sling not something for sweet dreams huh?

ETA - in the "viewing" room or whatever - not in the room with the patient.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 10:05 PM

Seriously? Ok...will take some...it would be good to hear a professional opinion!

....ok...on their way....best I could do for now...
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/10 10:13 PM

sent via pm. will try to get better ones tomorrow.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/23/10 09:04 AM

Donna gave me some good info on ulcers...wow...so I'm going to print and take with me. I feel terrible I didn't notice it before now!
Posted by: matsired

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/23/10 11:46 AM

Originally Posted By: myamom
I feel terrible I didn't notice it before now!


You have NOTHING to feel terrible about, Mary Ann. It was probably a closed sore that just opened and started to bleed.

You have EVERYTHING to feel proud about. You're a very concerned, very devoted foster mom to Cheyenne, and you have her best interests at heart. All along you have encountered health challenges, and have reached out to educate yourself about each one, so that you can make the most informed decisions possible.

Nobody expects foster parents to be experts in medicine. Just love.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/23/10 03:13 PM

Thank you Donna smile

Saw a new vet today. Ok......for today's "emergency"...I'd say things went well(gotta concentrate on the small victories).

She feels we caught them early. Cheyenne actually has two small ulcers. She said they are already healing. I asked how can that be...they were bleeding yesterday...she said...it does happen. Ok...good enough for me. She wasn't very concerned about them...said they didn't look bad...and to just put powder (which she gave me) on them..(EEK)...and keep them dry and clean. She said her skin is soooo stretched that any bump or pressure is going to cause tears, cuts, ulcers to occur.

I asked her for her opinion on whether it was benign or malignant. She said it's certainly "angry", swollen, large. BUT she said they never see tumors get to be this size due to usually earlier intervention. She does not believe it is inflammatory mammary carcinoma (WHEW..BECAUSE THAT ONE IS EXTREMELY AGGRESSIVE) because usually it will cause the leg and surrounding areas to become affected and swollen. I asked if it could be malignant even though she's had it so long and she said yes...just a slower one...that will eventually start working on her lymphatic system. Also could be benign. But she said...malignant...benign...doesn't matter..because to Cheyenne it's malignant...it's affecting her...it's causing her pain and discomfort. I had asked if the ulcers were painful..she didn't think to any great degree...and said the tumor she was sure was affecting her more.

She thought it very prudent at this point to see a specialist.

My vet caught me going out the door and after talking to me...said if anyone can come through this...Chey has a great chance because she sure is one tough girl.

I will make an appt. with specialist right after Christmas.
Posted by: matsired

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/23/10 03:34 PM

Originally Posted By: JeanKBBMMMAAN
I had a roommate who would do cardiac stuff and they would be eating donuts while waiting for things to be put back together!

Sorry Mary Ann - tumor sling not something for sweet dreams huh?

ETA - in the "viewing" room or whatever - not in the room with the patient.


Jean, I just caught this, lol. One of my childhood friends is a Boston trauma nurse. She loves to talk to me over breakfast about her latest cases in the OR, something about saws and gushing limbs. Some things DO make my stomach turn. sick

There's a lot of dark humor in medicine. But not by me of course. smirk
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/23/10 03:35 PM

So glad it wasn't as bad as you were expecting! I think seeing the specialist will be the best thing and I know it will put your mind at ease as to 'what to do next'. Now you can take a few deep breaths, have a couple of glasses of wine (or something stronger in your case) and try and enjoy your birthday and the Christmas festivities. Hang in there girl - you're tough like Chey. I'll send you a toast tonight when I decide it's cocktail hour! cheers
Posted by: matsired

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/23/10 03:38 PM

because to Cheyenne it's malignant...it's affecting her...it's causing her pain and discomfort.

Mary Ann,

Is she on pain medication? Or did she make any suggestions to manage her pain?
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/23/10 06:23 PM

I have pain meds...I use on discretion. I personally don't see her in "pain" right now (I can always tell)...I'm sure it's uncomfortable...I have them to use if needed.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/23/10 07:09 PM

MaryAnn, that sounds like a good idea at this point to see a specialist. Cheyenne has a lot to live for now and is really one tough cookie.

Let us know when you can get the appointment.

For now enjoy the holidays.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/25/10 03:37 PM

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!



Posted by: PositiveDog

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/25/10 06:06 PM

Wonderful. No words needed for this one. It's a present for all of you!
Posted by: Woodreb

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/25/10 06:12 PM

Merry Christmas reindeerlights
Posted by: matsired

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/25/10 10:41 PM

Wow, just checking in from work. That's a gorgeous shot of your kid/fur family, Mary Ann. So happy, proud, and dignified.

Merry Christmas to all of you, from my kid/fur pack to yours.

grouphug
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/25/10 11:20 PM

What a beautiful picture! Cheyenne is sitting so proud and tall. wub
Posted by: Lexi

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/26/10 12:07 AM

Gorgeous picture!!!! Merry Christmas to you all as well!
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/26/10 07:10 AM

That is a framer wub Merry Christmas to you and your family christmastree
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/26/10 09:16 AM

Thanks for my present Mary Ann and family, it was just what I wanted.

Miss Cheyenne in her loving home,
MJ
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/27/10 01:49 PM

wub x 4

Hoping things are going well.

I know this is a crazy thought but wonder if that Penaten creme would help?
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/27/10 06:55 PM

I'll look into that Jean...can you come over and help me apply that?
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/28/10 01:01 PM






We have an appt. with a specialist on Friday morning...please keep Cheyenne in your thoughts and prayers. I am terrified to go.....

Thank you to Southern Cross.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/28/10 01:51 PM

MaryAnn Thank you for posting the great picture. You bet we will all keep you in our thoughts.

Sending some zoomie good vibes to Cheyenne.
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/29/10 11:15 AM

Originally Posted By: myamom
I'll look into that Jean...can you come over and help me apply that?


Ummmm...no thanks. paranoid

Maybe it would help to tell us what it is about the appointment that is so upsetting? Or maybe it would just make it worse! If the former, we could maybe help. At the very least we can try to make you laugh or smile.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/29/10 11:31 AM

I don't want to hear....that there is nothing that can be done...that she has x amount of time...just hug her and love her.

I don't want to hear that we'll try but it's a huge risk...and then wrestle with that decision. What if I kill her. What if she thinks I abandoned her at the last min.

I'm a what if person....and those of you that know me...know that I beat myself up and second guess every decision I have ever had to make for my animals. Should I have done this...was that the right decision....
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/29/10 12:12 PM

Dear Mary Ann,

Cheyenne is alive today because of you. Heaven knows she is happy today because of you. Those are simple facts.

I am just guessing here, but I don't think that it's likely that the specialist (what specialty, I guess I missed it) has some magic bullet to give her n healthy months.

Cheyenne is yours, heart and soul-but if she were mine and he said he couldn't do anything-go home and love her, I would be calm that at least I was doing all I possibly could.

On Thursday night, I will open a bottle of Sparkling White to toast Cheyenne's health.

MJ
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/29/10 12:26 PM

Thank you MJ!

We are seeing a general surgeon. He is highly recommended and respected in this area.

He operated on Mya for a tumor...and was so knowlegeable. We felt total confidence in him. He really knew his stuff...discussing in detail....how they needed to take wide margins...what they would be looking for...what we would need to do if this or that. He was very positive in the event that the margins were "dirty" and told us where we would go from there. I have to say...I had the same feeling with him...as I did when the ENT at Children's hospital walked in the room for my son...total confidence.

Should we be going to a different type of doctor? My vet does recommend Cornell when needed..but in this case...he specifically recommended this Dr. I guess...I just go for the consult...listen...and take it from there...?
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/29/10 12:35 PM

actually...reading his bio...he specializes in internal med and surgery.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/29/10 12:35 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom


We are seeing a general surgeon. He is highly recommended and respected in this area. ...

I had the same feeling with him...total confidence.

My vet ... specifically recommended this Dr.


That sounds pretty clear to me. If you have confidence and your vet concurs, you can feel good about this visit Friday. Then take it from there with the same full heart and wise head that care for so many others.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/29/10 01:09 PM

Just talked to my friend kutzro...he sees this Dr. as well...and he said he was recommended to him by the U. of Pa. smile
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/30/10 03:39 PM

Took the dogs and kids up the park to run around...as you can see...Cheyenne feels great...I actually have to intervene when I think she's overdoing it...lol.

The funniest thing was when the kids went up on this huge mountain. Ava went with them...but I leashed Cheyenne and waited with her down the bottom because I was thinking she needed to take a break..and that that climb would be too much for her. She kept turning around giving me the evil eye..pulling towards them....finally started chewing at her leash...lol. Finally had to give in and take her up slowly.





Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/30/10 06:49 PM

Awwww - great pics and so glad Chey had a good time! Will be thinking about you both tomorrow.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/30/10 07:06 PM

Look at Cheyenne,and sassy to boot, good girl. Wishing you the best tomorrow.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/30/10 07:52 PM

Hi Mary Ann,

I just opened the Southern Cross Sparkling White to toast to Miss Cheyenne's health-it's a bit sweet like your sweet Georgia Girl.

How fabulous that you all had a field trip today and Chey didn't act like a Granny.

I hope with all my heart that Cheyenne's wonderful life with you is extended by tomorrow's visit.

All of you, get some rest,
Mary Jane
Posted by: Woodreb

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/30/10 08:09 PM

Chey looks great. I have a bottle of the Southern Cross Sparkling White, too and was thinking of opening it tomorrow night. Sending good thoughts from CT that all goes well tomorrow at the specialist's.
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/30/10 08:42 PM

Well, I won't have my bottle that soon, but as soon as it gets here, I'll have a toast in your honor as well Cheyenne!
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/30/10 10:02 PM

Just look how happy she is!

I agree with Val, she is a sassy old lady isn't she?! Her behaviour reminds me of my Beau.. wub

Fingers crossed that all goes well but if they don't just watch these videos over and over and look at that face of hers! Big old smile, eyes full of love and happiness..... she is loved.
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/30/10 10:25 PM

Good luck tomorrow!

People will definitely be with you "in spirit" and we all are hoping for the best.
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/31/10 03:56 AM

mary ann, i am behind in reading this thread, and will be thinking of the two of you tomorrow (all good thoughts).

you have done so much for this girl and for so many others. along with those good thoughts zooming to you, an envelope will be (finally), zooming out down to southern cross. today. for sure.

take care.
k
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/31/10 06:10 AM

Thinking of you both and wishing for a good visit tomorrow hugging
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/31/10 12:42 PM

We're back!! Did I say...how much I love this doctor? He just exudes confidence and positivity!

He said it has to come off. There is no where else for it to grow...it's bothering her...ulcerating...will rupture...and if not already...the longer it stays...the more chance of malignancy and spread.

50/50 chance of malignant vs. benign in dogs (almost always malignant in cats...just thought I'd mention for cat owners)

Feels it will be an easy removal...just hanging by a stalk..and plenty of skin to close.

Said she HAS to be spayed...the hormones will just allow the tumors to keep reoccuring...and also the hormones have been shown to contribute to turning this malignant.

Feels her heart is good...and she should be able to go through the surgery well. (of course...disclaimer...there's always a risk)

Films thus far show no mets....Dr. did not feel any lymph node involvement in the area of the tumor.

He will remove with wide margins and send off to the University of PA for biopsy. If benign...he says we never have to see him again and she will live out the rest of her life free of this.

If malignant...he was very positive about a chance of still curing her. Also said...some of these malignancies are so slow...that at her age...sometimes you don't even have to do anything...because her age would catch up with her before the cancer.

So...if malignant...we go back and discuss where we go from here.

Surgery is set for Thurs. 1/13 and he will be keeping her over night. He will keep in contact via phone...and if she needs us...will certainly tell us to come down. Could not tell us what time her surgery would actually be (as I wanted to wait with her)..so unfortunately I will have to leave her. Hope she understands.

I guess at least I can't have any second thoughts here as he was adamant on what had to be done...good thing was he was pretty confident and positive about her. Said he loves working with dogs because they have such an amazing resilence. I know Cheyenne sure does...she amazes us every day.

Yikes...now I really have to get out there and hustle some wine!!
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/31/10 12:45 PM

party party party

WOW! Way better than I was thinking! And if you read that article on surgery recover in older (she's only 8?!?!?!?!) dogs I think (memory poor) she's got what it takes!

This is very good.

Thank you Mary Ann and family, good doctor, and Southern Cross.

Cheyenne says hospice schmospice!

And KW for good things on 1/13.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/31/10 12:56 PM

Yea happy dance. Positive News.

My Cheyenne is sending strength vibes to Cheyenne, she says she has lots of strength to spare a whole lot for the Pretty White Cheyenne.

MaryAnn, if they would have wanted to do surgery right after you got Cheyenne I don't think she would have stood as good of out come as she does right now. Before she was ill and tired and just going to sleep forever probably wouldn't have sounded bad, but now she has her family that loves her and a lot of new adventures a head of her and she says no way in heck is she not going to fight to have that.

I am so glad that you and Southern Cross have given her this life.
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/31/10 01:31 PM

Great news!!!!! I'm so glad you took her to the specialist. Let's spread the word! Woohoo!!!
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/31/10 01:55 PM

Those are happy tears splashing on the monitor.

Maybe 2011 will be a good year....

thank you,

Mary Jane
Posted by: Lexi

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/31/10 03:00 PM

Wonderful news! grin party
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/31/10 03:27 PM

WoW! Excellent news!!!!!!!!! happyboogie
Posted by: Woodreb

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/31/10 05:27 PM

That's great news and I'm sure you feel better having a prognosis and way forward now as well. happyboogie
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/01/11 06:38 AM

party What wonderful news!
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/02/11 12:58 AM

I am SO HAPPY to hear this!!!

I know it's scary but I am sure that Chey will pull through!

She is such a lucky girl to have her family around her pulling and fighting along side of her! smile
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/04/11 09:21 AM

Just wanted to say...that the outpouring of support and love for Cheyenne has overwhelmed us...THANK YOU from the bottom of our hearts!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/04/11 11:15 AM

that life on a chain...neglected and suffering...seems soooooo long ago...a distant memory......



and now....thanks to all of you who care about me...2011 is so full of hope and promise...THANK YOU!!

Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/04/11 11:20 AM

Mary Ann, those photos of your lovely, brave, sweet New Year's partygirl are precious-- so very special! Cheyenne wub looks simply beautiful with her calm expressions of joy, contentment, and comfort in who she is, in where her life is now. Such a fortunate girl to be with you! These are pictures to treasure. Thank you for sharing these! It is so very clear that Chey knows that she is so very loved and cherished now!
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/04/11 11:53 AM

Oh Cheyenne, aren't you just somethin' with your New Year's confetti!! wub

Mary Ann - the doctor sounds wonderful, confident and very competent. She will be in the best of hands and we'll all be sending lots of healing thoughts, prayers and tons of hugs her way (and your's too!). I think this is really great news and how wonderful when she'll be free of that tumor!!
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/04/11 11:54 AM

Mary Ann,

Can I possibly hold my breath for 10 days until AFTER Chey's surgery?

Nope, can't hold my breath when I'm smiling at her present-her living moment right now with you.

Thanks for the 2011 pictures-I like the sound of this year.

MJ
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/04/11 12:24 PM

Thank you for the well wishes!! I think right now...we are so focused on getting TO the surgery and making it happen...that we aren't thinking about the actual surgery. Then..when the day comes...I'll just worry myself sick...oh...block that thought for now!!

When the day comes...wow...never thought I would be saying THAT!
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/04/11 01:32 PM

MaryAnn, if Cheyenne didn't have you and your family she would never made it this far. You healed her heart and gave her something to live for. You worked to heal her body so she has the strength to want to continue. So we are here for you until the surgery, during the surgery and after the surgery. You are just stuck with us.
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/04/11 01:55 PM

Love the New Years pictures! And love that dog! And love you and your family for taking such wonderful care of Chey. hugging
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/04/11 02:37 PM

Mary Ann, I am so excited about how much money has been given towards Cheyenne's
surgery. The overwhelming support is awesome. And why is that? Well, because
Cheyenne is an angel.....you are an angel.....and your family are angels. She is the luckest 4 legged baby in the world. And she is gorgeous too!
(Cain told me to say that). Prayers for her will be said all day on the 13th.
I know she will be ok, and live many more years with her wonderful family.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/04/11 02:42 PM

We are overwhelmed by the outpouring of love and support...truly! I know...it's pretty amazing!!

That Cain...LOLOLOLOL!!! Cheyenne said to give him a big kiss!!
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/04/11 03:34 PM

I agree with Val - earlier, the surgery would not have been an option. But you and your family have done such a great job and rehabing her thumbup
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/04/11 03:43 PM

I totally agree with the others.... she would not have come so far without you and your family.

Love the photo's of New Years!
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/05/11 07:52 AM

I think she was 'meant' for your family, to feel what love is like. Our fingers and paws are going to be kept crossed for you both hugging

Love the new years pics smile
Posted by: AvaLaRue

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/06/11 08:10 AM

I have just spent the last 2 hours reading every single page of this thread. MaryAnn, I just have to say you are the most wonderful person for everything you have done Cheyenne. The world needs more people like you.

I have cried and smiled my way thru this whole thread this morning. And I will continue to watch this thread daily and have you and Cheyenne in my prayers as her surgery date approaches. hugging
Posted by: matsired

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/06/11 12:54 PM

Mary Ann,

I love all the latest photos and of course, the latest update from the surgeon.

Cheyenne looks like she is living her life to the fullest and your family are loving her and providing her with everything she could ever possibly need or want in her retirement. It doesn't get much better than that.

I'll be thinking of all of you as her surgery nears.
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/06/11 02:54 PM

More pictures! We want more!

She is a famous, happy girl. I always read Val's posts as if that is what the dog is saying, Patti's too.

So great to see her and will be keeping her in all our hearts as we get closer to the surgery.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/07/11 09:10 PM

Jitters are really setting in...so I'll focus on our beautiful summer!!
























Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/07/11 09:12 PM

yep...Ava always catches the toy....and ends up giving it up to the Queen...lol
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/08/11 06:07 AM

I love the one of her on the dock...framer wub Still thinking of you both and keeping our paws and fingers crossed hugging
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/08/11 09:08 AM

Thanks for feeding our Cheyenne addiction.

Whether you post or not, Mary Ann, we're here thinking strong positive thoughts.

Mary Jane

(love the white dog in the green grass)
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/08/11 11:56 AM

Thank you Leigh for taking the time to read her story! Thank you for your kind words...you're very sweet.

Thank you everyone to continuing to think of Cheyenne and send good thoughts and prayers. I'm scared...and now focusing on every cough..every move she makes...just so worried that she will be healthy enough to go through surgery. I started on the chicken soup again...but in my zeal...over did it...and it wasn't pretty...lol. Will have to back off a little. I know...deep breaths.

I've been told over and over...God has a plan here..no matter what happens...it's his plan and his hand in this. I just need to keep repeating that.

I'll focus on posting happy pictures and vid's...wait until you see how we taught this GA girl how to swim...kinda...lol.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/08/11 11:57 AM

AND........


hugging

TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU!!
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/08/11 05:17 PM

MaryAnn, yes deep breaths. Cheyenne is miles ahead in the health department than she was when you got her. So while I am sure the surgery is going to tax her body, it is some thing she will recover from. The day in and day out discomfort and pressure from the tumors is dragging her down. Plus how that she is healthier the heat cycles aren't helping either. So more deep breathing, this is a GOOD thing, this is a GOOD thing. We will be here to worry with you.
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/12/11 10:45 AM

Mary Ann - did you get your wine yet? What time would you like to 'get together' in cyberspace and have that drink tonight? Anyone else want to join? I'm going to open one of my bottles of Cheyennes wine tonight and have a couple of drinks with Mary Ann to calm her nerves for tomorrow's surgery. hugging
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/12/11 01:23 PM

My nerves are in overdrive. I didn't want to upset anyone here...so I haven't said anything earlier.... Cheyenne developed coughing and labored breathing over the weekend. I met with my vet Monday...and he basically attacked this from every angle...antibiotics for URI...upped diuretics in case heart related. I went again today and had chest x-rays done...which are still clear...so no fluid in lungs...and still clear for mets. Showed a slight increase in heart enlargement on the right. Could be due to damage from her hw disease....i.e. enlarged valve pressing...etc....no definitive answer.

Coughing/breathing could be due to that...or a URI...or both. I did notice some improvement with the antibiotic. Both vets I met with today are still encouraging me to go forward tomorrow...that she may be worse in the future if I delay..breathing wise......that the tumor will be worse...
They feel as long as no fluid in lungs...she should still have the surgery. They both spoke very highly of the surgeon and said whatever he says they would be confident in...and that he certainly would not operate on a dog that should not be operated on at that time.

I have my new x-rays and the plan is to discuss in detail with the surgeon in the morning when we arrive...let him review x-rays...physically check her out...and make the final decision.

I feel like I am between a rock and a hard place......wanting to delay in case she gets better...because who wants their dog going for surgery compromised...but if I delay...things may only be worse...

Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers as we make these difficult decisions.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/12/11 01:59 PM

Mary Ann, we are with you. It is good to share your burden with us, that is what friends are for, here in the good, bad and in between.

I understand your feelings and if your Vets are confident in the Vet who is doing the surgery then I think you need to be able to trust him also. I like that he is a caring Vet, I am sure he won't want to operate on her if he feels she can't handle it. Good Vets are hard to find, many times the $$ signs cloud their judgment, it sounds like you have a good one.

I elected to have surgery done on my St.Bernard mix for a spleen torsion, which he didn't tell me he was in pain until it was the size of a baskeball, normally the size of a fist. My Vet said it would be touch and go. Well he lost the big fella 3 times on the table and did open heart massage to get him going again. He survived and flourished for several years after that. Doc said he had a very strong will to live, I believe Cheyenne has the Very Strong Will to live also. She isn't ready to leave you yet.

You know we are here for you. My gut says if the Vet thinks she will make it through the surgery then I would go for it. Sending Healing vibes to Cheyenne.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/12/11 02:29 PM

Thank you Val! You can't imagine how this has been playing on my mind. I need to let it go...and let the surgeon make this decision...because it's making me crazy...and they know better than me...

I just called the surgeon and it's been arranged that I will be meeting with him to discuss when we arrive tomorrow morning. EXHALE......
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/12/11 02:48 PM

Deep breath, Mary Ann... This surgeon will not put her in any danger. He sounds wonderful and caring and extremely competent. First of all, he wouldn't want to risk the wrath of Mary Ann is he makes one miss-step!

Nothing I can say to make you relax, because I know there's nothing anyone could say to me. But know that there are so many people sending good and healing thoughts to Chey...

We'll all be on pins and needles and waiting for an update tomorrow. Chey has weathered so many things and I KNOW she has the very strongest will to get through this.

Will be thinking of you tomorrow... hugging
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/12/11 02:50 PM

hugging

I don't know what the right decisions is, but at some point, you have to trust the professionals, and logically, the surgery sounds like it will give her more of a fighting chance, as long as they think they can get her through it.


hugging hugging hugging
Posted by: shepnterrier

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/12/11 05:58 PM

hugging Thank you for all you are doing for this great dog! As everybody said, you and your family healed her so incredibly well that surgery can even be considered! The surgeon is on her side, and will operate if and when it's in her best interest. I am so grateful that veterinary medicine is where it is today. I remember the old days, and I am so grateful for what can be done today.

Feli went for surgery when she was 13 or so, for a rectal tumor. Luckily, I had to go to work, it distracted me while she was at the clinic! There was no choice, the tumor had broken open and had to go. The tumor had been invisible, and must have grown fast between her senior wellness exams every six months. She came through surgery well, and was relieved.

Sending big hugs and healing energy to you both. hugging
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/12/11 06:30 PM

Sweet Cheyenne's many devoted fans are circling round to offer support and encouragement! grouphug Grimm and I will be sending positive healing energy for Chey to do wonderfully, be home soon, and recover very smoothly.
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/12/11 06:37 PM

Oh Mary Ann........my eyes just watered as I began to read the post. The right decision will be made for her...I know. I am starting my prayers tonight for her and you. I know this is so very hard for you. You have my phone number....call me if you need to. I'm here for you. (((BIG HUG)))
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/12/11 06:54 PM

I'm sorry Mary Ann - you should have told us what was going on so you wouldn't have to deal with this all week without support. I'm still going to have a glass of wine tonight for you both and say a prayer. Let us know something tomorrow as soon as you can. You know we're here for you and feel free to call me if you want to tonight.
Posted by: AvaLaRue

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/12/11 08:42 PM

My thoughts and prayers are with you Mary Ann. I'm sure the vet will make the right decision regarding the surgery. Hugs to you and Cheyenne! hugging
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/12/11 09:20 PM

Sending positive thoughts your way... We are all here with you no matter what happens and we are behind you 100%!!!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/12/11 09:33 PM



Thank you everyone!!

I am soooo lucky to have such wonderful friends...Love you guys!!
Cheyenne and Mary Ann
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/12/11 09:38 PM

Hi MaryAnn,

I am not on the forum much right now but I just wanted to say that I will be sending many positive thoughts out to Cheyenne and to you and your wonderful family. Thanks again for loving this dog so much! hugging
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/12/11 09:51 PM

Look at that face. I snagged it for the blog! http://southerncrossgsd.blogspot.com/

On the chip in page - and I don't have the page because it's hard to look at - is a picture of the tumor. Thinking of that and hoping that it will soon be gone and she will be all better.

hugging
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/12/11 10:00 PM

I just goobered up my monitor giving you a kiss on that beautiful face. Stay strong sweetie and we look forward to a very good update tomorrow!! hugging
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/12/11 10:33 PM

i am not here much lately either, but always come to see how this beautiful girl is doing. that face. that face. dear, dear girl.

all here in michigan are wishing very, very, hard for nothing but good luck tomorrow. don't imagine much sleep will be gotten at your house tonight. take care mary ann.
Posted by: matsired

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/12/11 10:53 PM

Ohhh, Mary Ann, I love that pouty shot of Cheyenne. I'd just love to grab her cheeks and give her a big smooshy kiss on her nose.

In terms of the surgery, a few things come to mind in terms of everything that you've mentioned since your appointment with the surgeon.

First of all, from what you've described, it sounds like a fairly simple procedure to remove the tumor. Simple often means quick turn around time from the time Cheyenne goes to sleep until she wakes up again. If they are planning to use conscious sedation (fast acting drugs, easily reversed if necessary), then that may be why they are not overly concerned about her upper respiratory symptoms. I'd ask about that tomorrow.

The other thing I thought about as I was reading is how incredibly thorough you've been with all of this. You've asked all the right questions, talked with all the right people, and most of all, you've created a strong presence with all of Cheyenne's medical people. Your consent to surgery is well-informed. You can't do better than that, in terms of advocating for Cheyenne. The rest is out of your hands.

As you know, I'm very conservative when it comes to my dogs. I let a lot of things ride, unless I felt strongly that it would put me on a better road than I was already on. So I tried to envision myself in your shoes right now, and at this point, I think I'd be taking the same path as you.

Val's story just reinforces for me again how different our pets are from humans in terms of pain and recovery. I'm with everyone else who believes Cheyenne recognizes a good thing when she sees it, and has every intention of milking her situation for as long as she can. wink
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 12:33 AM

Isoflurane smile And then there are other meds from the invoice listed on the blog but I can't post it because I turned the invoice into a fundraising list! But if you want to see what meds they have it's there.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 05:02 AM

Mary Ann,

I woke up because I forgot to post my strongest possible thoughts for Cheyenne and any possible peace of mind for you.

I think she must be an Earth Angel, we need her here for a while longer. We need her and she surely needs you.

Just take care of yourself, find something good to read, or maybe a closet to clean so the time will pass tomorrow.

all the best,
Mary Jane
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 06:00 AM

My thoughts and prayers are still going up for sweet Cheyenne. I look forward to reading your next update with the news that the surgery was a great success hugging Take care Mary Ann
Posted by: Woodreb

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 09:20 AM

Thoughts and prayers going out to Cheyenne today for a successful surgery.
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 11:32 AM

Mary Ann & Cheyenne........my prayers will be with you all day.

Cheyenne, Cain has sent you roses for a fast recovery. He loves you as we all do.

Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 11:52 AM

Morning Mary Ann and Cheyenne, I just wanted to pop in this AM to tell you you are in my thoughts today. Cheyenne, sending you some really super good strength vibes, you hang in there girl, you will feel much better after that big uncomfortable tumor is gone.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 12:42 PM

UPDATE

So we met with the surgeon this morning and I told him everything. He thoroughly examined her...looked at me...and said...Nope...not happening today. "I hear distinct wheezing and am not comfortable with her undergoing surgery". He likened it to someone with asthma...although she doesn't have that. He said he is not worried about the surgery part of this at all...that it will be easy and fast...but he worries about her health being kicked over the edge due to going through surgery in this condition. He said....I always tell people that bring in animals who are sick...I can easily fix that fracture...but do you want your animal to die because of that surgery? He has put her on a bronchodilator...and she is to stay on all the other meds she is currently on. He wants to re-eval her in one week (our appt. is Friday of next week at 10:30). If he feels that she is on the right path due to this treatment plan...he will have us continue for one more week...then operate.

Cheyenne was so relieved...and dragged me out the door (I had to drag her IN the door). I have to say...so was I...my gut told me there was reason for concern...and I am so grateful to have such an excellent surgeon...who was on the same page!!!!
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 12:54 PM

OK, I see why you trust this man with Cheyenne.

Collective blood pressure drops on the forums.

Mary Jane
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 01:01 PM

Oh wow - good - love that he is so sure and has a great system. Kudos to your gut too! XOXO to Cheyenne.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 01:04 PM

That sounds like a good plan. I wonder if the weather fronts have any thing to do with her breathing problems. One weather front after another. Sending healing vibes to Cheyenne so she can get on her paws and have the surgery done.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 01:15 PM

YES MJ!! LOL

Here's the bronchodilator...I looked it up when someone mentioned it causes heart palpatations...and given Cheyenne's heart......

http://www.petcarerx.com/pcrx/HealthGuide/Medications/Medication.aspx?mid=11248

but it says it's also used to treat congestive heart failure...and the surgeon does know about her heart and all her meds...soooo. Stop worrying right?
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 01:16 PM

I know Val...I wonder too...I really wish we were going through this in the summer.
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 01:24 PM

If this is anything like albuterol, it will increase her heart rate. It should not be a significant amount unless she has back to back treatments. Haley complains of her heart beating fast after a neb treatment but not from her inhaler. I think it's a different way of inhaling. (Assuming you will administer orally so that might not have quite the same effect as inhaling) Just pay attention to the amount and she'll be fine.

The one thing you should note is the bronchodilator opens airways so if there is any phlegm sometimes opening them up can cause her to breathe worse until she starts to mend because things start to flow better. So, if her breathing gets worse after taking it, just don't get excited. It could be the natural course of healing, just call your vet and let them know in case they want to see her to listen.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 01:27 PM

Thank you for that info!! You may have just saved me one less anxiety attack...lol!!
This is pill form twice a day.
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 01:31 PM

And that dosage can probably be altered if necessary. If you find her heart racing, see her really jittery, then just call the vet. They might have you cut the pill in half or give you a lower dosage.

I do know that when Haley's airways finally opened up that she ended up sounding like she was more congested. It was just that there was room in her airway for things to move but she wasn't sicker. Does that make sense?
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 01:36 PM

yes...thank you! Reading that article...where it lists the common side affects (heart palpatations being one of them) it says there too...that altering dosage should curtail that. So...thanks...I will be watching closely...and call with any concerns!
I actually have to call right now...because my bottle says give with food...and the article says give on empty stomach....oiy!
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 01:43 PM

Will the food help it absorb more evenly? You could try it both ways and see how she reacts
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 01:44 PM

Ok...just called my vet and asked...do I give with food or not?

He said...one hour before dinner or two hours after - exactly what the article says! Keep in mind...my bottle here says...give with food...YIKES! (2nd time the vet tech down at that surgeon's office made a mistake...last time I caught it right there...when she handed me Chey's typed history listing her with pronounced mets in her lungs) Glad I was prompted to look it up...kinda makes you want to look up everything doesn't it?
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 01:49 PM

It's really nice when putting your trust in the professionals pays off. Glad this guy is on top of it.

hugging to you and Cheyenne
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 01:49 PM

sigh...another week. i know how it is questioning everything and watching for mistakes. i'm always doing that with my docs and the dog docs. confidence in chey's doc/surgeon is SO important. i had to laugh when i read she dragged you outa there...they know, oh yeah, they know.

you have been SO INCREDIBLY GOOD for this girl. take care mary ann.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 02:17 PM

I know Katieliz...part of me just wants to wave a magic wand and have this over and done with and have her on the road to recovery. The waiting...knowing this is coming...that this is yet more time to worry, dwell...etc.....is incredibly stressful.
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 02:19 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom
Glad I was prompted to look it up...kinda makes you want to look up everything doesn't it?


I'm anal...I already look everything up...twice just to be sure...
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 02:45 PM

Hugs to you both on this emotional roller coaster. I guess I'm going to have to buy more bottles of her wine if I'm going to have a few more weeks of this! LOL
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 02:50 PM

Just had to come back and say...

I am just so impressed that this surgeon didn't just concentrate on his little "niche" in all of this. He could have performed this surgery and have her survive without a hitch...and sent us on our way... His worry is...her health AFTERWARDS. Which I commend him for.

Poor Lori...and I made you drink all that wine last night...LOL.
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 04:02 PM

I read an article last year about "emotional" crushes. It said that many of us develop emotional crushes on our doctors, vets, etc. - people who can heal us or our loved ones. Count me in for having a huge emotional crush on this vet. He is amazing!!
Posted by: matsired

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 04:05 PM

Originally Posted By: JeanKBBMMMAAN
Isoflurane smile And then there are other meds from the invoice listed on the blog but I can't post it because I turned the invoice into a fundraising list! But if you want to see what meds they have it's there.


Jean, what blog are you talking about? Also, thanks for the information. I just looked up the drug. I find animal medicine very interesting, albeit sometimes confusing when comparing to humans.

Mary Ann, I can understand why the surgeon postponed. He sounds like he really cares about his patients, not to mention, he has a reputable reputation to uphold. And he probably lost money by canceling in the 11th hour, as well, but canceled anyway. He sounds like one of the good guys, for sure. You done good picking him out.

The story about Cheyenne running out the door cracked me up, too. My Matsi crawls on the bench behind my back when we enter the clinic, shaking and whining. Like Cheyenne, she can't get out the door fast enough!


Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 04:26 PM

Donna,
Mary Ann has a link under her signature, but here it is: http://southerncrossgsd.blogspot.com/

It lists the drugs and other procedures Chey would need for her surgery. Just scroll down a little on the page and then you can enlarge the checklist that is there.

I saw Jean say earlier that she was in meetings today, so I just went ahead and answered... smile
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 06:00 PM

Whewwwwwwwwwww....what a day....Been worring about you guys. Mary Ann, you can
have a glass of wine now....or 2.

BIG (((( HUGS ))) TO YOU AND CHEY!!!!

Praise that doctor....and know everything is going to be ok.
Posted by: AvaLaRue

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/13/11 07:49 PM

Just got home from work and groceries and checking in on Chey. Glad the doctor decided it was in Chey's best interest to wait. Hugs to you and Chey hugging
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/14/11 12:49 AM

Originally Posted By: myamom
Glad I was prompted to look it up...kinda makes you want to look up everything doesn't it?



Yikes, glad you caught that!

I confess, I do look everything up and double check everyone.

Aagh, another tough week of waiting. I bet Chey will get lots of hugs this week wub
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/14/11 04:21 AM

Your vet sounds like he knows his stuff! Thinking of you both and I know you will, but try not to stress (too much) hugging
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/14/11 01:53 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom




I just wanted to look at Cheyenne.

Mary Ann-we're still here with fingers firmly crossed for next week, and the week after that, and the week after that....


Mary Jane
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/15/11 03:42 PM



Hi Everyone...just checking in to let you know..I'm taking all my meds, eating my chicken soup and mommy is keeping me nice and warm. I'm starting to feel better...and not coughing anymore. Thank you for thinking of me!

Love,

Cheyenne
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/15/11 03:43 PM

wub

Glad you are feeling better Chey wub
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/15/11 04:01 PM

By far the best picture of you yet - even better than the Easter bonnet!! Purple is definitely your color, Miss Chey!! wub SO happy to hear you're feeling better sweetie!! hugging
Posted by: Woodreb

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/15/11 04:01 PM

Yes, glad you are feeling better and you look very cute in your scarf and hat. Gave me a chuckle.

Keep talking you medicine so you can get better and go see the surgeon.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/15/11 06:03 PM

Hi Cheyenne I am so glad you are feeling better. I think purple maybe your color, but the Granny Easter hat is way more your style. But it is good to expand your fashion horizons, can't get stuck in the same old routine.

Sending you hugs and healing vibes.
Posted by: Hatterasser

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/15/11 06:48 PM

Personally I think the hat and scarf are 'YOU'. So stylish and becoming. Good to see you're eating your chicken soup and taking your meds. We want to see you looking and feeling as beautiful as you can be, especially if you're thinking of going out for a walk in your new outfit. *winks*
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/15/11 07:04 PM

wub

So that's what happened to That Girl!

So glad she's doing better.
Posted by: AvaLaRue

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/15/11 08:48 PM

What a beautiful hat and scarf for a beautiful girl!! Glad you are feeling better Chey!
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/15/11 10:42 PM

wub Hubba Hubba girl! I just love this new picture! Stay warm and rest up! wub
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/16/11 05:04 AM

"Hey there Chey, looking good. You like younger males?"






Hehe.. sorry.. had to do that. wink

Chey is looking good and I am so happy to hear that she is feeling well too! Looking forward to more progress reports - with picture. wink
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/16/11 05:50 AM

Oh Cheyenne thank you for such a great update! You are very beautiful in your purple hat and scarf wub You keep being a good girl and eating!
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/16/11 11:51 AM

rofl Oh Stark - you Cougar chaser you!
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/16/11 11:53 AM

No one wears clothes like Cheyenne. wub You go girl!
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/17/11 03:34 PM

HEY STARK.......Cheyenne already has her man...so...Back Off! lol



Cheyenne, I was giving you kisses all over this monitor when I saw you in
your sexy purple attire. Love, Cain
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/17/11 05:17 PM

"Alright Grandpa, calm down! I'll go find myself a youngn'.. but Chey, remember... if you ever wanna enjoy a nice raw meal.. give me a call baby."


wink
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/17/11 07:51 PM

oh....my my my my my!! Y'all are making this southern gal blush for sure!! Where are my vapors!


Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/17/11 07:55 PM

AAAAAAAAHHHH!! wub Adorability factor overload! Miss Cheyenne, queen of southern charm, looks just stunning in her lovely outfit! Those sweet, intelligent eyes say so much. We love you, Cheyenne!
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/17/11 09:08 PM

bloomrose Here's a beautiful rose for my sweet girl! You look stunning!
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/17/11 09:20 PM

Oh my Miss Cheyenne - you really ARE quite the southern belle - beautiful, just beautiful!!
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/18/11 12:05 AM

So adorable! Hehe... I totally love that head piece!
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/18/11 06:35 AM

wub What a beautiful glamorous girl!
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/18/11 10:00 AM

e-flirting, leave it to Cheyenne!

Dear Dog, for your human fans that really isn't necessary. You've won hearts on all sides of the Mason-Dixon line.

Mary Ann, do keep up your spirits, this is so sweet.

Mary Jane
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/19/11 07:36 AM

Just checking in on Chey today hugging
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/19/11 11:40 AM

How is the pretty Cheyenne feeling. Just checking in on you.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/19/11 11:48 AM

Well...<knock on wood>....I think her breathing has dramatically improved! She's very playful, active and back to her old self.
We have our appt. Friday morning...crossing my fingers as I hear we have another storm Thurs. into Friday. My husband (already took the day off from work) of course will want to go for it...and I'll be white knuckles all the way down! I hate that highway as it is...very high traffic...lots of tractor trailers. Praying for good roads!!
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/19/11 02:06 PM

How far do you have to travel? We are getting the snow tomorrow day & afternoon. I think where I am in KY, we are going to get 2" - 4". They have already treated the roads here.
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/19/11 02:15 PM

Myamom - I heard only a couple inches on Friday. Don't start to panic yet. Breathe...wax on...wax off...wait till Thursday night to worry. smile Friday's map is showing only light grey.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/19/11 02:42 PM

LOL...Ok guys..thank you...see how I am? I need to be talked down...focus...focus...LOL
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/19/11 02:47 PM

Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/20/11 12:45 PM

breathing in....breathing out....

This is great Jean! LOL
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/20/11 12:54 PM

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

(alternatively, Oh Mary Ann)

MJ
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/20/11 01:07 PM

Oh...forgot to tell you about this sweet random act of kindness smile

I was at a store yesterday...and a few doors down there is this awesome little hoagie shop. All of a sudden an old man came up to me and said...are those your beautiful dogs in the truck...here...if you allow it...I packed up scraps for them..and he handed me a huge neatly wrapped container of meat. How sweet was that!

After he left...the woman in the store was telling he what a nice man he was...and so I told her some of Cheyenne's story...and that she was loved by so many...and that there are so many people working to help her have a happy life...and to make sure she told him...he had a part in that smile
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/20/11 08:23 PM

Hey girl, my thoughts and prayers are with you and Cheyenne for tomorrow.
I sent you a ecard. Love ya!
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/20/11 08:31 PM

Cheyenne I still have some strength and healing vibes left to give you. I was starting to run low it has been a busy month, but I still have plenty left for you sweetie.

Hoping that the weather and roads aren't too bad for you tomorrow MaryAnn.

We are all with you and Cheyenne tomorrow.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/20/11 10:40 PM

I don't know where you are in Pennsylvania, so I checked the weather for a few places and where I looked the snow will stop by noon or before. Maybe that will work out for the Mary Ann rescue brigade.

From Cheyenne's improved breathing, maybe the surgeon will recommend going ahead.

Whatever you hear, you know that Cheyenne is getting the best possible life with you.

Do please be careful,

Mary Jane
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/20/11 10:41 PM

mary ann and cheyenne, all of us here at shangri-la are thinking only the best thoughts for you tomorrow. travel safe, take good care, we'll watch for updates.

mary ann, about your most recent story of kindness towards cheyenne...there are still so many good people in the world, tho it seems we hear so much more about the not-so-good people, especially in rescue.

cheyenne, the c-monster sends you a big (tho always respectful) kiss and some of his excess energy.

such a pretty and oh so sweet girl.
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/20/11 10:56 PM

3-5" tomorrow, supposed to stop in the morning. Looks like you'll be on the edge and we'll get hammered up here for a change. Just drive slow, leave early. They should have the roads taken care of by morning. I'll be thinking of you while I'm freezing my butt off with the blacksmith tomorrow morning!
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 02:12 AM

Just wanted to stop by and give some positive thoughts to Chey and you!

I hope the weather cooperates!

We are all here for you both!
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 07:04 AM

Thinking of you both and not knowing what time of day it is there, so sending all my positive thoughts and prayers your way hugging
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 11:09 AM

Sending good vibes and positive thoughts your way.
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 12:44 PM

Hoping you've had a safe trip in, a great appointment, and a safe return. Waiting for updates!
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 02:11 PM

just checkin' in...and thinkin' good thoughts for beautiful miss cheyenne.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 03:27 PM

sigh.....
Well...
He still hears rales. What he is hearing is lung related...not upper respiratory. He said there is infection (since we can rule out mets due to x-rays). I told him I've pretty much been dealing with this since I got her. I personally feel we've never truly gotten to the bottom of what is going on with her...we'd go on an antibiotic...she'd get better for a while...she'd crash...antibiotics...labored breathing...a cycle. And...remember the blood work showing psepsis which we never knew what the cause was?

He reiterated that he has no concern about the surgery itself.....but the breathing right now still concerns him...regarding undergoing surgery...kicking her health over the edge...even handling the anesthesia....and breathing issues are not his expertise. He wants her to see an internist (who works at the same hospital) for her opinion. He said he doesn't want to take any chances.

Appt. with her is scheduled for Jan. 27...surgery is tentatively scheduled for Feb. 8.
My heart just breaks for her..
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 03:49 PM

Mary Ann, I love your surgeon.

He is concerned for Cheyenne's overall body and what is best for her.

Some things tumbling around in my mind.

Is she still on the bronchodilator and which one?

Is she on Antibiotics right now also?

Has she ever been on an antifungal RX?

If she has a deep infection in the bronchial sacs the dilator will help open the airway to the sacs and let the gunk out, as long as the gunk stays in the infection will still be there.

Hugs to you and Cheyenne.
Posted by: matsired

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 03:51 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom


He reiterated that he has no concern about the surgery itself.....but the breathing right now still concerns him...regarding undergoing surgery...kicking her health over the edge...even handling the anesthesia....and breathing issues are not his expertise. He wants her to see an internist (who works at the same hospital) for her opinion. He said he doesn't want to take any chances.

Appt. with her is scheduled for Jan. 27...surgery is tentatively scheduled for Feb. 8.
My heart just breaks for her..


Wow, Mary Ann, this must be so frustrating for you.

Metastases is only one possibility, but there are lots of others as well. Maybe related to her heartworm disease? Chronic infection? Etc.

I like this surgeon. He's being really cautious, making sure he doesn't fix one problem just to create another, maybe even bigger, problem for Cheyenne.

Glad she's got more quality time to enjoy her retirement. Each new day is a blessing for these seniors, and an opportunity to add some great new memories.
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 03:55 PM

the on again-off again nature of all this is hard, but it's good that he's being careful, don't cha think?

okay, now maybe i can get some work done here, lol...
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 04:01 PM

yes...it's very stressful!!

my vet had put her on a potent antibiotic for 7 days - Cefpodoxime 200 mg. She ended it on Sunday. On my way home from the surgeon I realized...I forgot to bring that up...should she go on another round? I should call and ask?

She is still on the bronchodilator - Theophylline 200 mg. 1 1/2 tables every 12 hours.

no antifungal
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 04:08 PM

It's possible she could have chronic bronchitis or COPD type stuff maybe? Basically some lung damage from the HW or other stuff?

Well hopefully the internist will figure it out looking and listening!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 04:10 PM

and because I'm anal...i just called my vet and told them everything and asked about the antibiotic. (and suggested he consult with the surgeon about that)
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 04:22 PM

Good thinking. smile
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 04:22 PM

He wants her back on the antibiotic...running down for that now.
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 04:44 PM

First, I am VERY sorry for not keeping up with Chey-Chey. I am working a zillion hours and have the site blocked most of the time now.

Second, I am VERY sorry that Cheyenne continues to have lung problems. It's understandable that you're worried and I'm glad the surgeon is conservative.

Third, I LOVE all of the Cheyenne dress-up pictures. It is like picture therapy for me during a very stressful week. hugging
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 05:07 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom
He said he doesn't want to take any chances.


Nobody wants to take any chances with Cheyenne. This physician is truly a healer and considers his job to (help) make her well. I hate that you all have to go through this, but some time ago you trusted Cheyenne to this surgeon. I'm sure that the reasons that led you to trust him still apply.

Originally Posted By: myamom

My heart just breaks for her..


You can see her tumor and that must be terrifying. But recovery from surgery can be so tough and for a dog who has had multiple health problems, maybe too much.

I hate that you are forced to postpone but it sounds wise, medically.

Did he make any remark at all about her tumor?

Mary Jane
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 05:45 PM

Oh Mary Ann, I know this is such a roller coaster for you and Cheyenne. But, I'm glad you have a dr. that really seems very concerned about her. Hang in there girl. Still prayers for her to improve.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 07:28 PM

Thank you so much for the support...sometimes it feel so very overwhelming and I just break down and cry.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 07:57 PM

Mary Ann, we are glad to help in any way we can. Cheyenne is very much a part of many of our cyber GSD families.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 08:24 PM

hugging

Thanks Val!
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 08:29 PM

I have to agree, I love the surgen as well! He seems like he is very concerned about her whole health and is taking this whole ordeal very serious. Give him a 'paw' from us for doing such a great job with "our" Chey!

Although I can't offer any medical help, I can send Chey good healing vibes and lend my support and good thoughts to you Mary Ann. You are her guardian angel!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 09:13 PM

hugging

Thank you Elizabeth!

I took Ava today for moral support for Cheyenne (got that idea from Jean)...didn't work as good for me...Ava whined the whole time...I could hear her saying...You're right Cheyenne...now I know why you're nervous...this place is SCAREY! lol
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 09:16 PM

Linda, your card was beautiful...THANK YOU!

hugging
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 09:17 PM

Ruth..I totally understand...thank you so much for checking on us!

hugging
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 09:18 PM

Donna...thank you for your words of wisdom!!

hugging
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/21/11 09:21 PM

Katieliz and Mary Jane

hugging

No..the Dr. didn't talk about the tumor...just that the surgery won't be difficult.
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/22/11 03:57 AM

hugging Thinking of you both and sending many many positive and healing thoughts to Lady Cheyenne.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/22/11 10:06 AM

hugging

Thank you Bianca!

Sorry guys...I was just feeling very down yesterday. Needed a good nights sleep...today is a new day...and we just keep going forward..and take it day by day...


Thank you Jean for making me laugh!
hugging
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/22/11 11:24 AM

Mary Ann it is very understandable that you would feel down once in a while. This has been a long health road for Cheyenne with many hills, valleys and curves. I think you were preparing yourself for another trek up a big hill and then the slippery road had you sliding back down again. That is why we are all here to help you through those times and if we can push Cheyenne up this big hill with you. This is just another curve.

Hugs to you, your family and Miss Cheyenne.

grouphug
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/22/11 12:17 PM

Thank you Val.

Here is why I am in panic state...this needs to go now.....(please don't look Jean...or anyone else that does not want to see a tumor.)

Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/22/11 12:18 PM

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b244/myamom/100_3939.jpg
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/22/11 12:43 PM

I can see why you are in panic state, but we need to get the breathing evaluated first.

On the bronchodilator, I had really good success giving this to my horse. She had several bouts of pneumonia before I bought her and her lungs were all scared up. In horses with breathing problems the develop this really thick ridge muscle at the end of the ribs from trying to work everything so hard to breath. My horse had that, but after giving her the Aminophylline that went away and she had an easier time breathing and less coughing. Just thought I would share my experience with this Med.
http://www.vetinfo.com/aminophylline-for-dogs.html

Mary Ann, I know it is hard right now, but Cheyenne has made it this far another week or two should be ok. The surgeon just wants to make sure what he does isn't going to tip her over the edge. It is difficult waiting, but your surgeon wants the best out come.

Cheyenne is so much stronger now than when she first cam to you. Have faith in her and the Drs.
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/22/11 01:02 PM

Mary Ann - I don't have anything to add beyond what Val has already said. I just want you to go back to page 1 of this thread, look at the date and look at Chey's picture. Look how FAR you have brought her! hugging
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/22/11 03:08 PM

Originally Posted By: LifeAsMe
Mary Ann - I don't have anything to add beyond what Val has already said. I just want you to go back to page 1 of this thread, look at the date and look at Chey's picture. Look how FAR you have brought her! hugging


I think this needs to be bolded...

You have done so much for her and like what Val said, one thing at a time.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/22/11 09:19 PM

Mary Ann,

I would be horrified with that growth on Chey also. It's like some fairy tale with the snow covered garden and the troll beneath. Now I understand your questions about a sling or something for this dear dog to move without more injury.

I have no answers, February 8 is a long way away. I just am so proud to have any relation to people like you. You accomplish so much for such deserving souls.

Every day with you must be paradise for Chey.

MJ
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/24/11 11:16 AM

Well...the Dr. sure knows his stuff...and we've back slid into bad breathing again. Can I vent and say...it's almost like nails on a chalkboard? I dwell on every breath. Not that I'm annoyed with her...NEVER...but that urgent feeling to PLEASE GET BETTER....and feeling helpless.

We were at -17 this morning and I cringe even sending her out to potty. It's a quick in and out. I know our house is dry...we have humidifiers going. Wondering if weather..cold...dryness.. is exacerbating things...

Made a big pot of chicken soup...and praying to get under control. At least stable until we see this internist...and hopefully some answers...

Despite everything...SHE has not changed at all...still playing...eating...acting her same old self. I cringe when she runs up the steps...runs around after Ava in the yard playing....
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/24/11 11:22 AM

Do you think it's related to the weather? Haley's asthma is! The cold triggers hers!
Posted by: Tri-Shepherd

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/24/11 02:54 PM

Wowzer that tumor is huge. My goodness. I have no words of wisdom. Wish I would have seen the whole thread soon as the heat thing made me LOL because it is gross and frustrating having a female in heat. I am sending zooming healing thoughts to Cheyenne from Texas. Hospice for the seniors is always so difficult. I saw the heavy panting with my Ruby many many nights before she finally went to the bridge 2 weeks ago. I would often lay away and watch her breath just to be sure she would continue breathing. I so wish I had some thoughts on how to help her. Just know though that 99 percent of people would not have taken Cheyenne. You have given her the best thing you could by loving her and giving her joy and a place in a family.

Cheyenne is not ready to go yet from the look in her eyes. The best at this point is to fight along side her. I am sure the Chicken Soup is soothing to her. Do not second guess a single thing you have done for her....ever. (hugs)
Posted by: AvaLaRue

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/24/11 08:05 PM

Just popping in to check on you and Chey! hugging
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/24/11 09:34 PM

wow you're even colder than we are here...just want to say hi and we are all thinking about you guys and sending good energy!
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/24/11 09:56 PM

Here's a crazy suggestion..and I'm not sure how to make it work completely.

DD has problems when she breathes the cold air in. If she wears a scarf over her nose and mouth the air warms before she breathes it in. How would Chey do with a basket muzzle with a cloth wrapped around it so when she breathes the air is warmed the same way as if she had a scarf on? Just for when she has to go outside? Can something like that be made to work?
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/25/11 07:07 AM

Just stopping in to check on beautiful Miss Chey hugging

LifeAsMe - not that I know anything about that, but how clever are you! Very smart thinking smile
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/25/11 08:52 AM

I do think you are on to something Lifeasme...today it's in the 20's and...she seemed a little better. We have the humidifiers going all the time now...seems to help.

Yes...you are creative!
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/25/11 10:00 AM

Humidifier helps DD a bit. You know the cloth lined wicker baskets? Imagine something line that with a cloth lined basket muzzle. Maybe with a thin line of quilting to make it more like the thickness of a scarf?
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/25/11 10:05 AM

Don't you think Miss Cheyenne [fanning herself] (she and Mila together remind me of those sisters who made moonshine on the Waltons) would just wear a scarf around her nose? I do!

And cover the chest area too - it helps. smile
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/25/11 10:37 AM




rofl
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/25/11 10:51 AM

spitcoffee

Mila must be the darker haired one on the left?

rofl

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Waltons#Mamie_Baldwin

Mamie and Emily - not sure which is which!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/25/11 10:59 AM

Yes!! Mila is Mamie (left) and Cheyenne is Emily
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/25/11 11:01 AM

Names even seem to fit!

rofl
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/25/11 11:05 AM

They do!!

rofl

you KNOW you're going to catch yourself saying Mamie!
Posted by: PositiveDog

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/25/11 05:04 PM

So much has happened since I last checked in here.

I am so sorry for Chey's continued health problems. That she can fight these so well now is a testament to her care. I will be watching more carefully to see the next turn in the road.

BTW - as I was reading the updates, I saw the post on that wonderful gentleman's 'random act of kindness.' What a great person he is to notice your sweet dogs and offer them a gift!

Sometimes the world is good.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/26/11 09:51 AM

I really, really hope that Cheyenne is breathing better and that the internist certifies her for surgery. Perhaps there is additional breathing support that would improve matters for her-that the internist can recommend.

Mostly, Cheyenne is thriving in her family with a personality that glows from the monitor, she is giving and receiving a blessing every day with Mary Ann.

Fingers crossed for tomorrow's exam (I hope the weather cooperates, too.)
MJ
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/26/11 12:03 PM

Oh gosh darn Mary Ann.....the 3" of snow we got last night is coming your way, but I think you are going to get more than that. This has been a horrible winter. I hope Cheyenne is doing better and all goes well at the drs. Prayers for you and Cheyenne.
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/26/11 12:16 PM

We aren't supposed to get much from this storm and WNEP said it should be done snowing by daybreak.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/26/11 12:41 PM

Made me run and look at the latest on the weather...should be done snowing by morning...our appt. is late morning...so we should be fine...whew!

SC called and talked to the surgeon. Apparently...besides the internist, he also will be having the anesthesiologist weigh in on her case. He feels that the tumor will not rupture before the tentative surgery date...but if it ever did...to rush her in and he would do emergency surgery.

Please keep her in your prayers...

another thing playing on my mind...is heat cycle...which I'm thinking would be due mid Feb?

so many issues...
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/27/11 06:58 AM

Just checking in to see if you have any news from your appointment? Chey is in my prayers every night hugging
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/27/11 09:15 AM

Thank you Bianca!! ...we leave soon...will post this afternoon (sorry..I know your times are sooo different...will be at least 4 hours from now)
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/27/11 11:13 AM

I am late getting here this am. Wishing safe driving and a good Vet appointment for Cheyenne.
Posted by: matsired

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/27/11 12:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Wisc.Tiger_Val
I am late getting here this am. Wishing safe driving and a good Vet appointment for Cheyenne.


Ditto.
Posted by: shepnterrier

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/27/11 12:27 PM

Thinking of you and Chey. Sending warmest wishes. Chippy dares to offer a gentle whiskered kiss to Granny Chey.
Posted by: Tri-Shepherd

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/27/11 01:53 PM

*Taps her fingers* *waits impatiently* MARY ANN! We are waiting on an update! *grin* No rush. *grin* I hope all is going well for Cheyenne and am scared for her. I imagine she can't be very comfortable with people poking her about down there. *Fingers crossed* that no news is good news.
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/27/11 02:26 PM

Checking in! It is after noon.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/27/11 04:00 PM

Wow...just got home!!
Let me just say...this Internist if fabulous!!!
Cheyenne had quite a hard day...and is now sporting a cut like Mila...although not as provocative as hers...lol.


First we discussed her entire story. There was concern about her hw status and some confusion...which I confess...I had as well. While blood work done twice by my vet said negative...I found it very hard to believe that really...all those adults were gone?? that fast?? Internist also said it was odd...and that it usually takes 2 years to be totally gone. Since we had seen some enlargement on the right side of her heart on x-ray and that's where hw's live...she went on a hw hunt. Miraculously...NO HEARTWORMS. So...we can only conclude that the shots she had before she came to me sped up the killing process!! So...we are definitely hw free!!

She did want a chest x-ray in a new position...lying on her back...which caused Cheyenne to become stressed and turn blue.

Echocardiogram-NORMAL HEART FUNCTION AND CHAMBER SIZE; NO HEARTWORMS VISIBLE IN RA OR PULMONARY ARTERY!! (WOW-EXCELLENT EXCELLENT NEWS)

Chest x-ray-Consolidation in area of rt middle lung lobe;vessels enlarged and somewhat truncated. (BOO)
po2 (oxygen test) 92% on room air - should be 99-100% (said if she was a human she'd be on oxygen...although obviously things were exacerbated by her being stressed from the x-ray) I did tell her that she never turns blue for me...and breathing is not always labored as it was for the x-ray.


Physical exam-(will just post pertinent)-Severely harsh lung sounds in all lung fields.
Grapefruit size firm mass right caudal MG, pedunculated


Diagnosis (I'll just post pertinent) Abnormal lung sounds on exam. Fortunately we do not see adult hw on her echo. Possible causes of her loud lung sounds include lung inflammation or scarring/fibrosis secondary to the past infection. She became stressed and had some difficulty breathing when x-rays were taken, she was not able to attain normal oxygen levels at this time on room air. We would like to review all her past records before making definitive recommendations for anesthesia.
(I had asked my vet to make sure all past films and chart had been sent...but obviously they weren't)
We will ask for the original x-rays and records and will call when I put this all together.
Dr. also wrote in big letters - CHEYENNE WAS A VERY GOOD PATIENT!!

Oh...she said right now her tumor is "silent" (that's good)...and again said no spread or involvement anywhere else. She did add another worry to my list...pyrometria.

Oh...we were put on Amoxicillin in the event this is an infection contributing to her lung changes.

So..good news...bad news...and I'll have to sit and wait for her call. We were told not to cancel her surgery appt..........

hope this isn't a big jumble...it was so much to take in.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/27/11 04:03 PM

p.s. I believe she said that she doesn't have heart enlargement...that it was positioning on the x-ray that was misleading. I took away from this...that we have a pretty normal heart.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/27/11 04:15 PM

Good new - Bad news is still way way better than Bad News - Bad News. We will take what ever good we can get. I think it is a positive at this point that they don't want you to cancel her surgery date.

Finger crossed and sending healing vibes to Cheyenne.
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/27/11 04:19 PM

Totally agree with Val!

So happy that Chey allowed the dogtors wink to do what they needed to help her. She has a great team beind her and Mary Anne you are the wonderful, loving, caring coach! smile We fans are still rooting for Miss Chey!
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/27/11 04:25 PM

Mary Ann - I think overall that it's good news. Normal heart - yay!! Poor sweetheart getting so stressed from the xray... Hope they can get the breathing stabilized. Your vet is AMAZING!! Hugs to Chey... hugging
Posted by: Tri-Shepherd

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/27/11 05:05 PM

So no news was good news! ...mostly! I wonder if all dogs show a decrease in their breathing when placed on their back like that? Kinda like when a pregnant woman lays on her back in the last trimester and stresses the baby? Something to ask about maybe. Just in perfectly healthy dogs it is high enough normally to not fall to low but with a possible infection it is already a little low and falls into critical?

One big thing to watch for with the possible surgery coming up that I just want to let you know. As far as a heat cycle coming up you can usually see it days before the dog starts bleeding if you watch and see swelling in the vulva area. She would also most likely lick the area more often. I do not know if a surgery in the mammary gland area would be the same or not, but they will not spay a female in heat because the area is rich with more blood and would bleed more. I do not want to scare you and I know it is scary enough already. I just wanted to let you know what to watch for so you don't miss her going into heat.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/27/11 05:21 PM

Yes! Thank you...it's definitely something I am trying to watch for...as if my calculations are correct...and she is...she may come into heat mid Feb. They absolutely want to spay her...so it is a concern...along with all the other concerns...sheesh.

Gotta look up Pyrometria now...yikes.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/27/11 05:30 PM

Your theory on the breathing when placed on the back certainly makes sense. I keep thinking too how stressful that was and can't even picture how they did it. I know they also had to hold her front legs straight above her head (from looking on the xrays)
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/27/11 05:50 PM

Chey is such a sweet girl, anybody here knew she would be a very good patient. It sounds like exactly the right thing to get the internist's exam/opinion. I do understand the concern about the oxygen. My mother has breathing problems and her's has never dropped under 95% and that was in a bad period.

You must be relieved about her heart and the judgment about the tumor. We can all continue strong positive thoughts for Feb 8.

take care,
MJ
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/27/11 06:18 PM

Oh my goodness....that is to much for my brain to comprehend. All I know is that Cain would not have layed still for an x-ray. They had to give him something to make him drousy that time to do the x-ray on his lower back. They didn't want him to move. If tried to put him on his back, he would have probably just stopped breathing all together.

Bless both your hearts. So much going on. I will continue to pray for you both.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/27/11 06:27 PM

I know!! She's such a good girl! I don't think they'd get Ava on her back either...lol.

They had mentioned at the beginning that they may need to consider using sedation for the echocardiogram and x-ray...but in the end...they didn't need it. wow
Posted by: Tri-Shepherd

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/27/11 06:50 PM

Are they going to be doing the spay and the tumor removal at the same time? You probably have said but I can't think right now and it may have changed. LOL Pyrometria is a big deal if left untreated for a long period. Basically at her age and going so long without being spayed has helped cause it. Did they tell you what they plan to do about it? They can try to "treat" it by injecting chemicals to contract the uterus to expel the infection but it would likely reoccur. Or the option I would choice would be for the whole uterus and ovaries to be removed when she is spayed. Of course that choice is left to if they think she would do well with the surgery. I imagine some of the panting could be coming from the uterus infection causing her discomfort when she is up being active.

The one website I looked at about it said that if the cervix is closed and they do the injection treatment there is a chance of the uterus rupturing. Hopefully the antibiotics will go a long way in calming down all of the infection in her body. Please give her big hugs for me. Take some time to relax too no matter the outcome of any of her medical problems and treatment she is loved and being shown what love is.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/27/11 06:54 PM

I believe that her surgeon had planned to do the spay with the tumor removal, because she doesn't need the hormones feeding tumors or causing more.
Posted by: AvaLaRue

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/27/11 08:07 PM

Of course sweet Chey was a good girl!! Keeping you both in my thoughts! hugging
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/27/11 09:21 PM

Sorry for the confusion..she doesn't have pyrometria (HURRAY...something she doesn't have)...but it was another concern the specialist brought up leaving her "as is"....aside from the tumor (that big elephant in the middle of the room)
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/27/11 09:54 PM

oh mary ann, i feel like that's really good news for cheyenne. it sounds like you've put together such an excellent team to care for her. i also think probably when you're in the middle of doing it, you might not realize what an amazing thing it is that you're doing. it's really quite extraordinary mary ann.

and, of course, cheyenne herself is amazing. such a perfect example of the spirit and heart of these dogs we love so much.

i was at the vet half the day myself. gotta go do some research and post again in the senior health section.

lotsa snow here, stay warm, take care!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/27/11 10:01 PM

The heart news is truly miraculous...the more I sit here and think about it. I had googled stage 4 heartworm the other night and read in detail...and it was horrible...to have a normal functioning heart today...really...is nothing short of a miracle.

Now...to get to the bottom of this lung issue.

They are a wonderful team...yes...I feel very good about that.

Thanks to everyone for their kindness...seriously..you all would do the same...you are all wonderful!!

Gosh...I have to get over to that senior section...I apologize..I haven't been keeping up. Please know...if I can help anyone...email me or pm me!
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/27/11 11:06 PM

Mary Ann, I think the senior section is pretty good right now. You need to concentrate on taking care of Granny Cheyenne. I think right now she needs your attention. If you need any thing from us you just give a shout out.

Sending more healing vibes to Cheyenne.
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/28/11 06:32 AM

We will be keeping our fingers and paws firmly crossed here that Miss Cheyenne responds well to the abx and her surgery can go ahead. hugging I love how he wrote on her notes that she is a good patient smile Of course she is, she is the beautiful graceful Miss Chey! Keeping you both in my prayers.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/28/11 11:56 AM

Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/28/11 12:11 PM

^^ sometimes I just get so caught up in the research and worrying and blah blah blah...and unexpectedly you catch a moment...and pause and say...awwww....and enjoy the moment smile
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/28/11 06:12 PM

What a sweet pic. I know it's hard Mary Ann, but yes...do take advantage of these precious moments and take lots of pictures always - even if they are not doing anything special. Hugs to you and give Cheyenne a big hug from me and the gang. Enjoy your weekend!
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/29/11 06:18 AM

That is a lovely pic.
Posted by: PositiveDog

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/29/11 07:28 AM

I am playing catch up again and was so happy to hear the heartworms are gone! That is most wonderful!

I know it is still a long road with many concerns, but that Chey is here and fighting her way through this - I'll say it again, that is a testament to the love and care she is getting from you and your family.

And how are the kids doing during all of this. I know they must be worried about Chey. (here is where I would insert an emoticom with a dog and kids - if we had one.)

I hope you are able to find some time to relax with all the high stress levels. The picture is wonderful.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/29/11 10:40 AM

Mary Ann,

Thanks so much for the new picture. Cheyenne reminds me of French vanilla ice cream, with that slightly mottled white coat enclosing pure sweetness.

I would like to have your attitude about life in general: to stop a while to smell the roses.

cheers,
MJ
Posted by: Tri-Shepherd

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/29/11 02:35 PM

That picture shows everything we want for our dogs. A nice soft warm bed, a best friend, and love. It is amazing how well they get along. Hugs to Cheyenne and your family again today. I know how every day can be a small baby step and how much worry goes into caring for a sick senior.
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/29/11 08:52 PM

oh those sweet, sweet girls...
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/31/11 11:49 AM

That is a great picture. Precious girls. Cain said, "Hubba Bubba".
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/01/11 09:16 PM

OK...MAJOR HEART PALPATATIONS HERE..........THE SURGERY IS ON FOR TUES FEB 7!!

I've had a few telephone calls from the internist (can I say again...I LOVE HER). She had expressed alot of concerns about Cheyenne's breathing during one of our conversations....more so than the tumor. She even said at one point that she didn't think that tumor would kill her any time soon........until I told her how rapidly it was growing...which totally changed things up.

Because I was getting that concerned about her breathing vibe from the dr......because I was worrying so much about her breathing myself....I had actually thought...this surgery isn't going to happen...and quite frankly...a big part of me didn't want it to happen anymore. I was too scared.

Upon receiving the last of the films she needed to review...the internist called me today. She said no where does she see any signs of heart failure on any films. I told her...I think there were no films actually taken when my vet made that diagnosis....but that he was just going by presenting symptoms...couldn't breath...fluid in lungs. She said based on her review...she does not feel that she was ever in heart failure...nor does she need all the heart failure meds she is on (3 diff. ones x day) and I was told to discontinue them. I am thrilled she doesn't need these meds to sustain her...and also...financially speaking...whoa...they were so expensive!

I can't remember if I told you guys...but we took her off the bronchodilator last week per the specialist as well...and she's been fine...let's just say...I don't think it made a difference being on it vs. being off it.

So...then she starts to discuss the surgery. Said the major concern will be going in and coming out of anesthesia. The surgery part itself is not a concern as it is a very controlled situation. She said they will have a critical care team present...and she will also be present (the internist). She states she has a much better than 50/50 chance. She discussed with me the risks in not having the surgery...rupture...psepsis...and again she was very concerned about pyrometria...and said she would never want her going through these things. She said...if it were MY DOG...I WOULD DO IT. I think I need to take those words very seriously. I respect her very much.She has been wonderful and has taken so much time with this case...and with me....I think every call we had was about 1/2 hour.

So...surgery is on Tues...Feb. 7....and I am a mess with fear and worry. Please let this be the right thing...please keep her in your thoughts and prayers.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/01/11 09:25 PM

Forgot to add - what is the on-going lung issue?
She said you can never know for certainty without a lung biopsy which is very invasive and expensive...and she said...we're just not going to do that. The most likely reason...is damage from her heartworm.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/01/11 09:29 PM

Mary Ann, I will put my money down on Cheyenne. She had less than a 50/50 chance when you got her and look where she is today. If she makes it through the surgery she will have more time with you. Honestly if she wouldn't make it, you would know that you did everything you could for her.

But like I said I am putting my money down on Cheyenne to win. I like the numbers.. 2/7 2 x 7 = 14 Valentine's Day. 7 is my lucky number... So I am running with the 2 7's.
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/01/11 09:31 PM

So happy that Chey has a team that loves and cares about her!

Okay.. so Tuesday, the 7th... I will most definitely be sending healing, positive vibes/thoughts/prayers your way!

You are doing the best thing for her Mary Ann! Stay strong and know that we are all ears/eyes? if you ever need anything - even just to vent.
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/01/11 09:46 PM

Mary Ann, I know how stressful this must be for you. And no one can guarantee anything. But if this surgeon wasn't 150% sure, she would not proceed with this. Chey is in the best of hands. I like Val's numbers - Feb. 7 is Chey's lucky day. Did she say how long the surgery would take? We'll be there every step of the way with you and worry just as if she was one of our own!! She is loved by so many and all that positive, healing energy WILL make a difference! Kind of like she's going to be getting Reiki from all over the world!!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/01/11 09:53 PM

I have to say....I made sure the Dr. knew she was famous and had many fans all over the world....watching.....you know how they go that extra mile for movie stars and such...thought it couldn't hurt...lol.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/01/11 10:04 PM

CORRECTION - SURGERY IS TUESDAY FEB 8

Now...we need to find something about lucky 8...lol
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/01/11 10:19 PM

8 - 8 is a good number. Anyone play the card game Crazy Eights.

Eight Ball in Pool...

See eight is a good number also.

Magic Eight Ball.

I will send more special healing vibes to Cheyenne.
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/01/11 10:21 PM

Val is by far more clever, but here's my equation: 4 is my lucky number, Feb. is the 2nd month, so 4 x 2 = 8 - Feb. 8! But seriously, she doesn't need no stinkin' lucky number. She has love and good wishes and healing energy from around the world surrounding her going into this surgery!! wub hugging
Posted by: Tri-Shepherd

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/02/11 12:48 AM

Hey I got it 2 x 8 = 16! Sweet 16! But seriously Chey will be in my thoughts and prayers from now until she is fully recovered!
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/02/11 07:18 AM

I will be keeping Miss Cheyenne firmly in my prayers hugging
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/02/11 09:44 AM

Mary Ann,

I was beginning to get nervous not having heard from you, but thanks and thanks again for this update. We can only hope to do the right thing with any health decision. We try to learn all we can and get good advice.

Originally Posted By: myamom
...the internist.... said...if it were MY DOG...I WOULD DO IT.


Surely that is an expert opinion. From a nonexpert, I would take her advice.

Undiminished positive thoughts are still flowing your way, despite sleet or snow or dark of night.

take care,
Mary Jane
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/04/11 01:34 AM

hi mary ann, just checking in to tell you i'm thinking about you and cheyenne...and sending more positive thoughts and good wishes your way.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/04/11 11:50 AM

Thank you guys!! Just trying to do deep breathing...and keep things as normal as possible...and I really try not to think about it.
Cheyenne is now off all meds...and doing fine without them.

There are so many prayers for her.....I have to accept that whatever happens is what is meant to be and is what is best for her...not me...HER.

Cainsmom-we've been doing some practice runs with that wonderful harness you sent for her to use...in case she needs help.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/07/11 11:31 AM

so...tomorrow is the day.


one last fear...is she about to go into heat? She licks (but am I being hypersensitive?)...can't tell if there is swelling because honestly...I think she is more pronounced anyway from having puppies...and I'm no expert...and there is certainly no comparison to Ava. I'll have them check her before I leave her tomorrow.

deep breath...anything else I'm forgetting to worry about?
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/07/11 11:41 AM

Hi Mary Ann,

When do you have to stop food/water for Cheyenne, I guess by midnight.

I just wanted to post something you can productively worry about.

We'll be in the cyber waiting room, right next to you.

Mary Jane
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/07/11 11:53 AM

Please take this extra dose of hugging hugging hugging from Grimm and me as we continue to send powerful well-wishes for Cheyenne tomorrow. May this be much smoother and easier than you expect! We're all here with you in spirit, beaming good thoughts and healing vibes Chey's way. Such a lucky girl has come so far with your love. May you feel trust in your kind, understanding vet, and feel good about Cheyenne's upcoming quick recovery. Paws are crossed for you to feel more at peace as you bring her in, and anticipate the reunion when she's ready to come home and be spoiled again. We're all cheering Cheyenne on for tomorrow!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/07/11 11:54 AM

Thanks MJ for giving me something to focus on...lol. Ok..no food after 8...no water after 12. (except teeny tiny amts up to admission)
last antibiotic tonight...none tomorrow.

ok...check!
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/07/11 12:18 PM

A big pot of chamomile tea for you! I have been following this thread whenever I'm on the board. I understand so well your worry. You have a great team of medical professionals working with you and Cheyenne and so many people out there pulling hard for Cheyenne. Sending many calm thoughts your way and much love to Cheyenne! hugging
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/07/11 12:32 PM

Thank you Ruth!

Tea..Chamomile and sleepytime EXTRA....check!
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/07/11 12:43 PM

checking in on you guys today to let you know we're all sending very, very, very positive thoughts for the beautiful ms. cheyenne.

we are visualizing a positive outcome, imagining the doc coming to you afterwards and telling you how well it went, imagining chey waking up from the anesthetic and wagging her tail, imagining you taking her home and having a successful recovery and recuperation, imagining her being better than ever.

you have done a wonderful job caring for this dear girl mary ann.

take care, what time do you go tomorrow?
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/07/11 12:48 PM

Mary Ann, it is possible that her urine has changed from dropping off the meds so that would cause her to lick more.

Sending calming vibes for you and strength and healing vibes to Cheyenne.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/07/11 12:49 PM

I just sat here and visualized everything you said..thank you...will try to keep doing that throughout the day!

They ask you to drop off between 8-10....then they cannot tell you what time they will do the actual surgery. Realistically...I don't see us there much before 10...because we have to drive our kids to school before heading down...which is fine...less time for her to be waiting and scared.
It's already planned that she stays overnight...and barring any complications...would come home the next day...but if there are complications...they keep her.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/07/11 12:51 PM

Interesting Val!! And being totally off her diuretic now would make her urine more concentrated....as opposed to peeing constantly...
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/07/11 01:50 PM

Your in my thoughts and I just wanted to 'drop by' and tell you we are thinking of ALL of you.
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/07/11 05:42 PM

Mary Ann our thoughts and prayers are going to be with you and Cheyenne starting now. I feel it in my heart that everything is going to go fine and you will have that beautiful girl back home before you know it. Cain said to give Cheyenne and big ((( HUG ))) and KISS from him. Love ya
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/07/11 05:43 PM

P.S. Call me if you need to talk.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/07/11 07:25 PM

email me your phone number.

Thank you for the well wishes everyone!

and of course...as luck would have it..3 inches of snow starting late tonight..ending in morning...but high winds (which are what scare me the most) Yikes!!
Posted by: shepnterrier

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/07/11 07:36 PM

Originally Posted By: katieliz
checking in on you guys today to let you know we're all sending very, very, very positive thoughts for the beautiful ms. cheyenne.

we are visualizing a positive outcome, imagining the doc coming to you afterwards and telling you how well it went, imagining chey waking up from the anesthetic and wagging her tail, imagining you taking her home and having a successful recovery and recuperation, imagining her being better than ever.

you have done a wonderful job caring for this dear girl mary ann.

take care, what time do you go tomorrow?

I couldn't say it any better than katieliz did. Imagining how much better Chey will feel. Thinking of you and Chey. Have a good night's sleep.
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/07/11 08:32 PM

Quote:
we are visualizing a positive outcome, imagining the doc coming to you afterwards and telling you how well it went, imagining chey waking up from the anesthetic and wagging her tail, imagining you taking her home and having a successful recovery and recuperation, imagining her being better than ever.



Absolutely that's what we are all thinking!! hugging

Posted by: Tara

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/07/11 08:33 PM

Sending positive thoughts to Cheyenne tomorrow. hugging
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/07/11 10:38 PM

Good evening Mary Ann,

I don't have any Sparkling White to toast to Cheyenne's health-but clear water for clear recovery will do. Cheyenne and your family have provided such an example of healing and strength that we can never thank you properly.

Our thanks and our hopes are with you now,

get some rest and drive carefully,
Mary Jane
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 12:12 AM

Great visualization - we will all be waiting for updates tomorrow and will be thinking of you all.
Posted by: Tri-Shepherd

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 01:18 AM

Sending more well wishes and positive thoughts your and Chey's way. Hopefully they don't do the surgery too late and make you worry for a long time. I have a feeling it is going to be hard keeping her calm during the recovery period. she will probably feel a lot better and want to play and snuggle!
Posted by: Qyn

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 04:20 AM

Best wishes to to both.
Posted by: kutzro357

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 06:35 AM

Well I woke up at 4AM looked out and it's just rain 35 miles to the south of Cheyenne's surgeon. Hope that's a good sign.
Posted by: AvaLaRue

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 06:55 AM

Hi Mary Ann - Sending BIG hugs to you and Chey today! You've got a great surgeon and you have been so wonderful with Cheyenne. I will be keeping you both in my prayers today and checking the thread from work when I can sneak a peak. hugging
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 07:41 AM

Sending HUGE hugs grouphug to you both this morning and praying for a quick and easy surgery! Can't wait to hear the words that the surgery was a huge success and that Chey is recovering beautifully! Love ya both and call me if you need to Mary Ann!
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 08:09 AM

Thinking of you both this morning and am keeping Miss Chey in my prayers for a successful surgery hugging
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 09:16 AM

Thank you...you guys are making me cry...Cheyenne couldn't have more on her side...the love, prayers, well wishes...are overwhelming...

Roger..ty...snow and wind here..but just 2 hour delay for schools...so we should be fine...good to know it's even better down the line.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 12:00 PM

Ok..we're back
I cried like a fool the whole time I was there...Internist said they are taking extra precautions and that we are doing the right thing.

Mentioned to nurse that maybe she might be going into heat and could they check and should I wait. She said no...that most likely he would go ahead with surgery regardless.

Gave Cheyenne lots of kisses told her we love her and will be back. She went along with the nurse...head down...with no problems...she is just such a sweet wonderful girl.

and now we wait...I don't know what to do with myself. I'm literally shaking. I can't believe we got to this day.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 12:08 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom
...Internist said they are taking extra precautions and that we are doing the right thing....

...she is just such a sweet wonderful girl.

and now we wait...


Right here with you, Mary Ann. I've got Starbuck's bold, but you might try Ruth's chamomile tea.

Deep breaths.

Lots of people are here and hoping and fearing and waiting-lots of love and positive thoughts for Miss Cheyenne.
Posted by: LJsMom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 12:27 PM

Big hugs Mary Ann!
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 12:30 PM

Mary Ann - I know your stomach is in knots and you're driving yourself crazy waiting. I tend to do the same when in a stressful situation, so I know exactly what you're going through right now. It's okay to freak out. My opinion is that it's better to freak out and then be tremendously relieved when everything turns out okay!!

It will be so wonderful to have that tumor gone and the spay done so that there is no chance of pyometra! She's going to be like a brand new girl!!

Worrying right along with you... hugging
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 12:35 PM

Mary Ann--

I have a crazy-busy day but wanted to pop in and let you know I was thinking of you and sending super powerful successful surgery thoughts to your sweet, gorgeous Cheyenne! hugging

p.s. If you need something to occupy your time perhaps I could get you to do some website updates or edit an article for me? wink
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 01:03 PM

Mary Ann,

I am feeling your stress. But Cheyenne is in really good hands. I hate waiting I am not good at it. I usually attack some house cleaning chore that has been neglected for a while. Yes I attack it, I take out all my nervous energy on the task.

Sending you some calming vibes. Sending Cheyenne some really good healing and health vibes. Cheyenne you have a lot of things to do yet in your life, so this is going to make you feel so much better. Stay strong and don't give up.
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 02:19 PM

Mary Ann - how long do they anticipate the surgery to last?
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 02:26 PM

I don't know....all I know is that the internist said "he's very fast". I know too when I talked to the surgeon...he said the surgery itself would be fast and easy.

As far as a time..when they will get to her...I couldn't pin one down. They said it really depends on how their day is going...the cases on the schedule, etc......

He will be calling with a detailed update...I do know he is very good with that...as he operated on Mya and was very good with calling.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 02:33 PM

sooo...no news is good news...

lurking
Posted by: matsired

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 02:54 PM

Checking in Mary Ann, thinking about your family and Cheyenne today.

She's got lots of furry angels watching over her.

I'll be glad when this is all over for you.
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 03:26 PM

i'm here too mary ann, thinking about you and cheyenne...sending good vibes and wishing for a steady hand for the surgeon and some news soon! i'll be back. crazy busy day for me too.
Posted by: Tri-Shepherd

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 03:28 PM

When I had my Dixon in to have his teeth removed I had to drop him off by 8am and pick him up at 3pm. He had severe Chronic Renal Failure and I called every hour just to be told they had not taken him in yet. They finally took him in at 2pm. I can't stand the waiting game either. Drives me nuts. I used the waiting time to just research different herbs and treatments for his kidney failure and tooth removal. I still thought about it and worried but at least I had a plan when he came home. I felt productive lol. Are they saying how long Chey will need crate rest?

The part about her head down is a tear jerker. It always seems as if they are lost without you and scared even though they probably have no fear since they don't know what is going to happen. Stay strong Mary Ann you and Chey have hundreds of prayers on your side.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 03:36 PM

you know my biggest fear would be if she didn't make it...and visualizing her walking away like that. SLAP ME!!

Kids said the whole school prayed for her today...and teachers were running up to the truck to ask for updates.
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 03:49 PM

Here is me slapping you Mary Ann for thinking like that!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 03:56 PM

LOL...THANKS LORI!!
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 03:58 PM

Oh Mary Ann, I know you are a nervous wreck because I am. I keep getting on here seeing if you had updated yet. Prayers.....prayers.....prayers still coming your way.
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 04:12 PM

every time that image comes into your mind (the walking away one) right away, force your mind to visualize the red circle with the slash in it (no!), and redirect to visualize her walking toward you with a smile on her face and a wag of her tail. don't let yourself go there.

had to add, know how hard that is tho. i am having a hard time getting anything done today because i can't focus, even tho she's not even my dog, i dunno, somehow i always think of her in a weird way as my c-monster's mom or gramom...lolol, no idea why, but i feel connected to her in some way. so many people love her and feel the same!
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 04:24 PM

Originally Posted By: katieliz
i feel connected to her in some way. so many people love her and feel the same!


That is SO true!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 04:26 PM

I know Linda...I'm biting my nails!

Ok..I'm visualizing that big circle with the slash...and instead...LOL...FOCUSING ON GRANDMA

Bringing Caesar some of her homemade cookies...



and one of those pop in visits to say...YOOOOO HOOOOO....

Posted by: GSDElsa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 04:27 PM

Keeping my fingers crossed for Mya girl!!!
Posted by: matsired

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 04:32 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom


...YOOOOO HOOOOO....


Boy, this dog has truly gone to a part of your brain, Mary Ann, where no dog has gone before. I am ROLLING with laughter here.

Old dogs can be pricey. But the purple princess? Priceless.
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 04:35 PM

Oh there's my favorite pic of her in the purple!!! Mary Ann - take a look at those pictures. What an amazing difference in her face between the two. She looks years younger (and much healthier) in her puple outfit!! wub
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 04:39 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom






This is the picture that made me cry - I don't think I'll ever see a picture as sweet as this one.
Posted by: Charlotte

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 04:42 PM

Don't think I have posted on this thread before - but I am here lurking to see how the beautiful Ms.Cheyenne is doing. Sending good thoughts hugging
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 04:42 PM

I think she really likes the purple outfit!! LOL

she's just a compliant girl...easy to dress up...and she'll just leave it on as long as you want...but she usually has that Eeyore attitude...what's she doing now......sigh

But...this outfit...I think it made her feel snazzy! LOL
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 05:39 PM

I was just checking in on our "Pretty in Pink or Purple girl"
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 05:44 PM

Just checking in too.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 05:58 PM

nothing yet frown
Posted by: Tri-Shepherd

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 06:06 PM

I had the same fear with Dixon about him him not coming out of his tooth removal. Any sedative can affect the kidneys and with Dixon's only functioning at about 3 percent he made it through. Ultimately though Dixon passed 10 days after the surgery do to the tooth removal spreading the infection in his blood and taking the last of his kidneys. frown Chey is in much better shape then my Dixon was. I can think of no good reason why she wouldn't come out of surgery okay. Heck better than okay. She will feel 10 pounds lighter! I am having a vision of her being waggy and grinning when she comes to. That's the imagine we all need.

Eeyore! LOL! He has always been one of my favorites. Don't stress I imagine the surgeon is busy trying to finish up all of his surgeries. No news is good news. If they would have called already it would have been bad. Them not calling simply means there was no complication and there is still nothing urgent they need to tell you.
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 06:09 PM

The vet probably makes the calls after office hours. But it is after 5pm so why don't you just call to check?
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 06:17 PM

I was just getting on here to post that Lifeasme. Thinking...ok...he probably does all his surgeries...then makes all his calls.......


so...because I didn't get any urgent calls...maybe this means good news...
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 06:20 PM

way to go with the positive attitude! I think you're right--you'd hear in a New York minute if something was wrong.

I'll keep checking in for good news...
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 06:24 PM

Usually when my vet calls after surgery, the dog is awake and resting comfortably. So I am also going with no call is a good thing. They are busy with other surgeries and want to make sure she is resting well before they call.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 06:34 PM

per the Dr.

"NATURALLY I TOO WAS VERY CONCERNED...BUT IT WENT SMOOTH AS SILK...EASY...WITHOUT A HITCH...SHE IS RECOVERING WONDERFULLY...AND YOU CAN TAKE HER HOME IN THE MORNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"


I am about to leave..my son has a game...I WANT TO SAY...MUCH HEARTFELT THANKS TO EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR YOUR LOVE, SUPPORT, FRIENDSHIP, PRAYERS...WE COULD NEVER HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS WITHOUT EACH OF YOU!!
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 06:36 PM

party party grouphug
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 06:39 PM

thank goodness and the surgeon
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 06:43 PM

party

Feel better soon sweet girl…


Sending lots of and from Colorado to you all!!
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 06:44 PM

party party party party

WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Liv

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 06:44 PM

party happyboogie
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 06:47 PM

Thank you to the skilled surgeon. Thank you to Mary Ann and her great family.

Yea Cheyenne you are going to feel SO MUCH better. NO nasty heavy tumor in your way.

Now we will have a good Party Celebration on the 10th because you will be home and had a day to rest.
Posted by: GSDElsa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 06:50 PM

YAY!!!! So glad it went off without a hitch!
Posted by: LJsMom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 06:58 PM

Happy tears!
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 06:59 PM

well as soon as i wipe away these tears of relief, i am going to see if i can finally focus enough to get some work done before today turns into tomorrow!

i am SO glad everything went okay.
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 07:20 PM

party And when you bring her home tomorrow you can finally get some sleep!
Posted by: lil'mister

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 07:28 PM

To think how long the wait has been for this day..... And it has finally come..... and it has been a huge success!!! A toast to many more tomorrows for your entire family (this is where I would raise the Chey inspired wine. That is if they would ship it to PA hammer) She is one lucky girl to have found a family that loves her so dearly. Congratulations!!!
Posted by: AvaLaRue

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 07:44 PM

WOOOHOOOOO!!!! Tears of relief and happiness flowing here!! So glad everything went well. Can't wait until you bring her home!! groovy
Posted by: Tara

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 07:45 PM

party
Posted by: Tri-Shepherd

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 08:45 PM

Oh I bet you can not wait until tomorrow! Just a word of advice....try to get as much sleep and rest as you can tonight! I have a feeling Chey is going to feel so much better you won't get a minute of rest once she is home! smile
Posted by: Charlotte

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 09:03 PM

party
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 09:15 PM

grin

Sweet sassy molassy!

Kris - that is great.

So glad - Cheyenne is going to feel like a whole new girly!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 09:40 PM

I'm back!! Whew...literally got the call as I was walking out the door so only had a quick second to update everyone...now I can let it all out...


party party grouphug

BETTER news than I ever expected. I wasn't even on the phone with the Dr...yet I could hear his exuberance...he was so happy...said it went so well...not one problem...and she's doing fantastic. We told him thank you so much and that he is a hero to many people.

That Cheyenne is one tough old gal...sweet sassy molassy!!! I'll have to go out and get her a new hat to celebrate!!!

Again...THANK YOU TO EACH OF YOU...I KNOW FULL WELL...THAT THOSE PRAYERS, GOOD THOUGHTS, HEALING VIBES, LOVE, ZOOMED RIGHT TO HER AND BROUGHT HER THROUGH THIS BETTER THAN WE EVER DREAMED!!!
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 09:42 PM

i just knew it, i had a very strong feeling it would go well!
Posted by: Qyn

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 09:44 PM

Wonderful news. I am so happy to read this. Well done purple princess and well done Myamom for holding it all together and giving her this opportunity. hugging
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 09:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Kris
party

Feel better soon sweet girl…


Sending lots of and from Colorado to you all!!


yes, well said!!!

What a great day, so glad to hear the news!
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 10:55 PM

See....I knew it...I knew she could do it!!!!! I'm am in tears of joy. OMG, I can't see the screen. Mary Ann, you and your family have been that baby girl's angels and I know you are going to have many more years with her by your side.
Cain is sooooooooooo happy his girlfriend is going to feel so much better now.
He said he would send her a picture soon. Love ya!
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 11:13 PM

As we all bask in the immediate relief, I would like to add a heartfelt thank you to Southern Cross. They saved Cheyenne and helped her make her way up to PA and her palace at Mary Ann's. Mostly, tonight I thank Southern Cross for their commitment to her surgery. If that doesn't demonstrate what good rescues can do, I don't think anything could.

I'm just so relieved.
Posted by: matsired

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/08/11 11:43 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom


That Cheyenne is one tough old gal...sweet sassy molassy!!! I'll have to go out and get her a new hat to celebrate!!!



Totally can't wait to see the new hat. It's really become her signature style.

Hope to have someone like you in my corner, Mary Ann, should I ever need it. Nice work!
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 02:40 AM

Okay, when I came on here tonight and saw the 66 posts from the last time I checked in.. my heart sunk.. I thought the worst but when I finally read through to the end... okay.. I cried! Tears running down my face, tingly all over, wow.. SOOO happy right now.


party hugging party happyboogie party groovy party cheers party

Give her a big old kiss and squeeze from Stark and I!!! Can't wait to hear more when you know more!!!
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 06:50 AM

I have been thinking of Chey all day but haven't been near to check in. Oh this is the very best of news, I am so so happy for you party party

I can't wait to see the new hat being modeled hugging

sleep well tonight!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 09:44 AM

ok...so...remember...we talked to the Dr. yesterday and he said pick her up this morning...so this should have been the end of our phone calls with him.

Imagine...getting a phone call from him this morning....talk about a heart stopping moment. My husband answers the phone....

"Hello...This is Dr.....looooong pause.....I have something to tell you......looooong pause.....I don't know how to explain it....loooong pause......



SHE'S NO LONGER WHEEZING....SHE'S BREATHING BETTER THAN BEFORE SURGERY."

Both he and my husband both burst out laughing at this point.

Dr. said...I can't guarantee this will last...or why it's happening..but it's pretty amazing....she's doing fantastic...come and get your girl!
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 09:52 AM

will wonders never cease?

drive carefully,
MJ
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 09:59 AM

Oh my heart stopped when I just started reading that!

She is coming on in leaps and bounds now! party

You keep up the great work now Miss Cheyenne hugging
Posted by: Tara

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 10:13 AM

groovy Yay! What great news! Even if it's only temporary at least she's getting a little relief! Recover quickly sweet Cheyenne!
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 10:40 AM

OMG Mary Ann...you scared me to death when I started reading your post. Don't you do that again!!!! lol You get your butt over there and get that baby and post on here as soon as you get home! I'm so happy she is breathing better.
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 10:51 AM

I ALMOST asked you last night if there was any chance that her breathing might be better. I've seen the craziest things that I thought had no connection help Haley. It's like the stress is taken off the body and it's just easier for them to breathe!

Are they going to biopsy the mass? Do they think it's benign?
Posted by: gsdraven

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 10:57 AM

I'm so glad I read the other posts celebrating before I got Mary Ann's about the breathing or I would have had a heart attack too!

So glad things are going so well! Way to go Mary Ann and Cheyenne!!
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 11:10 AM

GO AND GET YOUR GIRL MARY ANN. bless you all!
Posted by: luvmysheps

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 11:40 AM

I have read every post but never commented. HOWEVER, I have to say it is wonderful news. I am crying tears of joy and hope no one comes in my office right now.



WAY TO GO MaryAnn and Cheyenne

goodjob grouphug happyboogie happyboogie happyboogie
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 11:41 AM

Another thought - all the "stuff" in and out of her lungs - may have relaxed her so she can breathe better. smile Nice weird result!

Yes - they are doing a biopsy - I saw that it was on the invoice.
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 11:50 AM

party party party party party

Hooray for Cheyenne! Grimm and I are sending continued vibes for her smooth recovery and we are very eagerly awaiting her stylish new hat! wub
So many good thoughts and positive energy flowing out for your wonderful girl!
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 11:58 AM

I wish I could be there when a happy healthy Cheyenne walks into the room and see's her Mary Ann. She is going to say Oh momma I was so worried that because I had that ugly thing on me you didn't want me any more. But look it is all gone and I am feeling good, let's go home NOW. I am serious I want to GO HOME NOW!!! I need some quality care and rest, this place is OK, but I am Cheyenne and I need the best, so we need to go home right this minute. Yea Dr. I love you, but you aren't my family. See Ya, gotta go home now.
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 12:03 PM

Oh, I hope this lasts!!!

SOO excited for Chey, I can only imagine what she is thinking! And Mary Anne and Family too! Oh gosh, such a happy, happy, happy day!

Go and get "our" girl! Bring that girl home and kiss and snuggle her as much as you can for all of us!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 01:40 PM

When I heard I was getting a new hat...this is NOT what I had in mind!!



Our Hospital Visit:

Talked for a while with the girls the desk...told them about all of you..for caring and not even meeting her....and one got all teary eyed and said she was honored that she actually got to meet Cheyenne in person.

Talked to the nurse for follow up care. She said they were all braced and prepared for the worst...and were shocked when everything went so perfectly. She said the whole staff went home that night ecstatic. She also said Cheyenne was a wonderful patient and they never heard a peep out of her. She's on antibiotics, pain/anti-inflammatory and has an extra pain med if needed. We are to follow up in two weeks to have staples removed.

Dr. came out to see us. Said he listended to her lungs with the scope and can't find a wheez anywhere. He said it's truly amazing. He jokingly said...I'll have to consider anesthesizing all my breathing issue patients. We did discuss that it could be due to the fact that she was given so much fresh oxygen which could have opened everything up for her. Temporary or not...time will tell. He is anxious to check her breathing at our follow up. Another consideration is that the tumor was very heavy and taxing on her.

The tumor has been sent to the U. of PA for biopsy and we should have results next week.

So...she's home and not acting any differently. She's alert, ate a small meal (per vet) and is following me around even though I keep trying to tell her to rest...take a nap. Ava was very excited to see her and kept kissing her. I know kitty will be very happy...she walked around the house crying this morning looking for her.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 01:46 PM

Mary Ann, thank you for posting a picture of our pretty girl.

Just a thought, if it was the oxygen, could you get her a bottle. A friend of mine had a dog that had CHF (congested heart failure) and when his breathing got bad she would have the dog lay down and use some of her dad's oxygen. She just set the tube right next to the dog's nose for about 15 - 20 mins. She said it made a difference.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 01:46 PM

Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 01:48 PM

OH look at that BIG ugly tumor is gone. Yea that has to be a big burden off Cheyenne.

I think your daughter needs to decorate up Cheyenne's cone with some pick colors.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 01:48 PM

It's a real consideration Val...my husband laughed and told the vet...maybe we can run her over the firehouse every so often for a dose. Will discuss this further at our next appt.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 01:49 PM

You KNOW Mary would be thrilled to do that...LOL!
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 01:50 PM

I hear that clear plastic cones are all the rage this year on the doggie fashion scene Cheyenne. wub

So glad to hear that she's home and acting like herself. Wow, these senior rescues are just amazing.
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 01:57 PM

Well Halloooo Miss Southern Belle. wub

Make sure Mary puts some red ribbons on that new hat too! Valentine's Day is coming up!
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 02:01 PM

Unreal. She probably lost 5#! This is wonderful.
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 02:05 PM

Well just look at that!! I thought she would look all groggy and not want to do anything. She continues to surprise... Amazing, amazing, amazing!!!

Very happy for the kitty. Nothing more pathetic than a kitty missing someone...
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 02:13 PM

Oh...forgot...BONUS!!

Dr. said there is alot of debate on whether or not removing additional glands is beneficial. As luck would have it...his surgical partner came home YESTERDAY from a symposium on all the latest research on mammary tumors!! Apparently they are finding benefits to removing surrounding glands...so he popped out some more in the surrounding area. He said it only took a second and she doesn't need them anyway.

I apologize that I was on information overload at that moment...but if anyone is interested, I can get the exact details on that at our next appointment.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 02:24 PM

Mary Ann, that is ok to feed us information bits at a time. I can imagine you were on information overload.
Posted by: AvaLaRue

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 02:59 PM

Woohooo Look at that beautiful girl! I love her cone hat, very very stylish right now! Hugs to both of yoU!!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 03:09 PM

Well...she just got more stylish.....lol





caught her scratching...cone can't stop that...and she was scratching herself raw...noticed some blood...not near the incision...but her skin overall must be itchy from the shaving.
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 04:03 PM

Miss Chey, you strut your latest in fashion accessories like no other can do wub
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 04:12 PM

Wow... I can't believe how happy I am for you and for Chey!

She looks... well... GREAT!

WOWZERS!!!

Keep our paws and fingers for the best from here on out!
Posted by: Tara

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 06:32 PM

happyboogie party happyboogie That's wonderful that everything went so well and she looks AMAZING!! I would have never guessed she just went through surgery!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 06:57 PM

Ok...seriously...you'd never know she had surgery...she's like the bionic dog...better than before...LOL.

We have poop discharge papers said common not to have a bowel movement for 5-7 days.

The only problem we're having is that darn cone...she's totally miserable with it...and CANNOT come up the stairs with it on...so we have to remove it.

Breathing is great smile
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 09:00 PM

Mary Ann,

All your recent posts are so clear about your relief.

They are so clear about one thing:

how much you love your Cheyenne!

blessings upon you both
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 10:12 PM

grin

Good for all of you!

Ava is a danger to herself and others with the cone, but when she first came home she had it on in her crate and off when she got out (to potty).

They told me yesterday that good cone compliance is huge for the incision. But she's not going to be able to lick it on the stairs!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/09/11 10:48 PM

There is no way the cone is coming off...except coming up the stairs...lol. Learned that lesson the hard way. Mya had her dew claws off...we went for weeks for that cone on...had the staples removed...and the vet said...eh maybe keep it on a few more days. Well..feeling like the poor dog needed a break already...I took it off one time so she could eat in comfort...and got distracted...and before you knew it...she had ripped both legs open...and we had to have them restapled and start all over.

Compliant is Cheyenne's middle name...she just accepted it right off...just not thrilled...keeps getting caught on everything...poor thing...but she's getting better...lol
Posted by: Tri-Shepherd

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/10/11 12:26 AM

I hate the hard plastic cones frown Every time one of the dogs need one I end up hearing it scrap up and down the hallway walls, rammed into door frames, and I get nasty bruises on my thighs where they bump me. I have never had a dog with the soft cone but my cat did great with it. He had the ball socket of his hip removed after it was broken off in a horrible doggie induced accident. He was in a crate for 6 weeks with that soft cone at 6 months old. He only began to realize how to flip it to be able to lick his hip during the last week. Poor Chey I always feel like they think they are wearing a dunce cap with those cones.
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/10/11 04:02 AM

Wonderful Chey, so glad that you came through surgery with flying colors and you are home where you belong.

Home, that sounds wonderful, doesn't it Chey? You never imagined that life could be so wonderful? I'm so glad that you found your HOME, where you recovered, and you were able to become the dog that you were meant to be, and such a wondeful family to be with, and to share with.

You must feel like a million bucks, even with all those staples and that silly cone. You will be back in hats and taking walks soon.

I'm so glad your surgery went well, you are so loved wub
Posted by: Qyn

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/10/11 04:37 AM

Don't those cones come in purple?? That would make her feel at home. All the best with this great news and she looks wonderful. Thanks for the updates.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/10/11 09:51 AM

I bet everybody got a good night's sleep at the Mary Ann house. There's nothing like having everybody safe at home.

Good morning,
MJ
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/10/11 10:26 AM

Good Morning!!

Wow...she's unbelievable...you'd never know she had any surgery!! She is definitely one tough old gal!! I actually gave her the extra pain med last night (one is mandatory...one is as needed)...just so she laid down for a loong deep recuperating rest.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/10/11 12:07 PM

Good Morning to you and Cheyenne.

How would Cheyenne be any thing but Wonderful. She knows a good thing when she has it. I am sure she is like hey that big ugly thing they called a tumor is gone, they also took out some other unneeded stuff, so I feel pretty darn good.
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/10/11 05:01 PM

Good afternoon Cheyenne! Hoping you are continuing to feel better! jumpingheart
Posted by: Lexi

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/10/11 08:20 PM

This is just awesome....Cheyenne is just awesome....I am just getting caught up on this thread and Cheyenne and her story never fails to bring happy tears to my eyes. Her story is SO uplifting and Cheyenne is just one amazing girl. Just goes to show what good care and most importantly, LOVE can do to mend the sick, broken hearted girl she was and make her into the gorgeous, strong girl she is today. Love you Chey! Thank you for being you!!!!!!!! party
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/12/11 09:06 AM

Found Cheyenne sleeping this morning...all cozy in her bed...with her cone on....
..............walked in the next room and saw her t-shirt (even still knotted) on the floor.

Can someone tell me how she did that? thinking
Posted by: LJsMom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/12/11 09:48 AM

Our old girls are very talented!
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/12/11 10:55 AM

I think this calls for a night time video surveillance. It would be so much fun to watch this.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/12/11 11:00 AM

LOL...DEFINITELY!
We keep looking at the size of the neck hole....and the size of her chest...and hmmmmm???
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/12/11 07:32 PM

I think there are things we don't know about Cheyenne - she was maybe a magician's assistant?
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/12/11 08:07 PM

LOL!!
We're still scratching our heads...

Do I sleep walk?
Did the kitty assist her?
Did she take the cone off...remove the shirt...and put her cone back on?

Things that make you go hmmmmm....
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/12/11 08:09 PM

That is pretty baffling!! thinking What a clever girl! And to know that she feels well enough to pull that Houdini trick - isn't that just the best!!! groovy
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/12/11 08:51 PM

That's to funny.....she is a magician...lol She said, " I'll show you, I don't want that on." I'm so happy she is doing so well. She has many more years to be spoiled by you and your wonderful family!!!!!
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/13/11 08:32 PM

vaseroses bloomrose vaseroses bloomrose vaseroses

with the warmest thoughts for Cheyenne and her wonderful family.

Mary Jane
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/14/11 07:35 PM

checking in to say hi to ms. houdini, and to let you know we are thinking about you all and looking forward to another update when you get a moment to take a breath.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/14/11 09:00 PM

HAPPY VALENTINES DAY TO ALL MY SWEETHEARTS!!

I'm feeling fantastic!!









Love Cheyenne
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/14/11 09:44 PM

Happy Valentines Day to you and your wonderful and amazing family, Cheyenne!! sparkleheart vaseroses

You look very beautiful in your silk scarf and that tummy is so svelte - just a little nip and tuck and that 'ole tumor is gone forever!! VERY happy that you're feeling so fantastic!! hugging
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/15/11 07:15 AM

Happy Valentines to you too Miss Chey jumpingheart
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/15/11 08:28 PM

Hi Cheyenne. I was wondering how you were doing. I am glad your mom took some time to post pictures of you in that snazzy scarf. "Looking Good"
Posted by: AvaLaRue

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/16/11 06:25 AM

Cheyenne you are soo beautiful in your Valentine's scarf. So glad you are feeling better!!!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/17/11 04:48 PM

Dr. called with Biopsy results today


She had two tumors within that big huge tumor.
1. Mammary Adenoma - which is benign
2. Mammary Tubular adenocarcinoma-which is malignant
Dr. is calling it a low grade malignancy, which doesn't typically spread, he feels he got large clean margins. He seemed pretty optimistic about it...will discuss more on Tues at our appointment.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/17/11 05:02 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom
Dr. called with Biopsy results........


1. ....benign happyboogie
2. ....malignant........a low grade malignancy...... bloomrose

He seemed pretty optimistic about it....


party
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/17/11 05:07 PM

jumpingheart jumpingheart jumpingheart jumpingheart jumpingheart

That is really GOOD News........ Yea Yea Yea party party
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/17/11 05:16 PM

It is? really? Thank you!! I better wait until I talk to him more...I made the mistake of starting to google...and got all confused...and worried. He did say...if she was going to have a malignancy...this is the one to have. He did seem positive about it. He said he hates to use the word "cured" but things looked good. I'll have alot of questions...if any of you have any questions I should ask...please post.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/17/11 05:24 PM

I am not offering this as a medical parallel, just cancers in older females.

My mother has had what is called an "indolent" leukemia for about 20 years. She has never had treatment for it. It just grows slowly enough, with few enough symptoms, that the treatment is worse than the disease.

More crossed fingers-but I think when your surgeon is optimistic we can all breathe easier.

MJ
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/17/11 10:47 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom
Dr. called with Biopsy results today


She had two tumors within that big huge tumor.
1. Mammary Adenoma - which is benign
2. Mammary Tubular adenocarcinoma-which is malignant
Dr. is calling it a low grade malignancy, which doesn't typically spread, he feels he got large clean margins. He seemed pretty optimistic about it...will discuss more on Tues at our appointment.


All in all, that really is great news. You know me though, now I'd be putting together my anti-cancer plan.....

I have a question for you.....(several questions?)

I know of a dog diagnosed with mammary gland adenocarcinoma. The pathology report shows that this cancer in this particular dog is aggressive (margins were not clean, the cancer is infiltrative, etc. ).

In the blood panel, there are several markers that are elevated, and some are suppressed. For example, elevated items include lipase, total protein, lymphocytes, and at the high end there is calcium and potassium. The urinalysis shows blood, red blood cells, and white blood cells in the urine; the specific gravity is low.

Where there any abnormalities in Chey's bloodwork? It sure seems like this other dog has a kidney/urinary infection?
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/18/11 02:45 AM

jumpingheart bloomrose cheers party

Sweet Chey deserves ... and you deserve.... to enjoy the GREAT NEWS! Enjoy each day, each shared moment, each expression of love between you, Chey, and family. Good news is good news!!

party penguin happyboogie hugging
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/18/11 06:49 AM

Well to me, that sounds really positive! Hoping after the check-up you will be able to breathe a lot easier hugging And a gentle hugging for Miss Chey
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/18/11 10:16 AM

Sounds pretty positive to me also. I looked up the malignant tumor and it said they grade it based on cell division at the lab. So, if the doc said it's non aggressive, that is based on the lab test, not a general knowledge of the kind of tumor. Sounds really, really positive to me!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/18/11 11:34 AM

I'm trying not to google too much yet...you can scare yourself silly.

Adenocarcinoma:
Adenocarcinomas can be tubular or papillary, depending on the gland cells the tumor arises from. Adenocarcinomas behave malignantly but how aggressively malignant they
are depends not on whether they are tubular or papillary, but on other cellular characteristics described by the pathologist (such as how quickly the cells appear to be
dividing and how closely they resemble normal gland cells). When the oncologist reads the description he or she will be able to determine how aggressively to combat the
tumor.

Lisa...I just went through all my paperwork...but they did not give me her blood work. Would you like me to get a copy?
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/18/11 11:54 AM

That's what I read also Mary Ann. The important part of that is
Quote:
how aggressively malignant they
are depends not on whether they are tubular or papillary, but on other cellular characteristics described by the pathologist (such as how quickly the cells appear to be
dividing and how closely they resemble normal gland cells)


And your doctor said it was NOT aggressive!
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/18/11 02:03 PM

mary ann...no more googling!!!!!!!!!

cheyenne has gone so much further than anyone expected, and whatever time she has left here on earth is such a bonus and such a gift...news from the vet, considering everything, is good news i think. please give her a huge hug from all of us here at shangri-la. she is such a beautiful spirit!

thank you again for everything you've done for her.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/18/11 02:16 PM

Mary Ann, I think we need more Cheyenne pictures, that will give you less time to Google.

The report was far better than most of us thought it might be so, who knows how long that was growing in there. It could have been years, so years are great. Months would have not been good at all.

Gosh when you got her surgery was out of the question. You got her healthy enough to not only be healthy enough to have a chance of surgery but SURVIVING it and flourishing right now. So stop Googling and take a look from day one to now. Enjoy what you have and stop trying to look for trouble. I know you have been so patterned into doing research, but relax some now.

WE NEED MORE CHEYENNE PICTURES.
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/18/11 09:28 PM

Originally Posted By: LifeAsMe
That's what I read also Mary Ann. The important part of that is
Quote:
how aggressively malignant they
are depends not on whether they are tubular or papillary, but on other cellular characteristics described by the pathologist (such as how quickly the cells appear to be
dividing and how closely they resemble normal gland cells)


And your doctor said it was NOT aggressive!


smile Like that a lot!
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/18/11 09:31 PM

Me too! I prescribe more of enjoying eachother's company and love, and less worrying and Googling. wink

PS-- Yah.. I agree, more Cheyenne pictures for us to celebrate over! She always looks as if she KNOWS that she is the star in her pics. Heck, could it be her stunning wordrobe of dashingly gorgeous hats, shawls, etc.? wub

Cheyenne's fans are all cheering her on! party
Posted by: Qyn

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/19/11 03:20 AM

There's nothing wrong with googling as long as it used to look for ..... new scarves!!!
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/19/11 04:09 AM

Originally Posted By: myamom
Lisa...I just went through all my paperwork...but they did not give me her blood work. Would you like me to get a copy?


Thank you for looking! Let me check if this would be helpful, I don't want to add any hassles.

How is Miss Chey doing today?
Posted by: PositiveDog

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/20/11 09:37 PM

Pictures? Pictures? Where?? lurking
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/21/11 03:54 PM

















The funniest part of this photoshoot was that the whole time we're working on getting some good shots of Cheyenne...sit Cheyenne...look at me...there's Ava in the background posing beautifully and going through her entire repetoire...want me to sit? down? smile?

We love you too Ava LOL smile





Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/21/11 05:20 PM

Cheyenne, hopefully you will get some fur grown so you don't have to tuck your tail to protect your tender skin. You are looking good there girl.

And pretty patient Ava, you are the best sister companion for Cheyenne. You never complain, you are never put out by all the attention Cheyenne gets, you are a Jewel in your own right.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/22/11 08:45 AM

Staple removal day!! smile
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/22/11 11:36 AM

Oh Ava - how cute is that! Such a good girl!

Wow Mary Ann - did you ever think you'd be posting something as simple as "staple removal day"?? It's been quite a journey getting to this point. Chey must just feel so good having that big tumor gone. I probably missed it, but did they say what it weighed? And her breating is still good? Such a miracle...
Posted by: Lexi

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/22/11 11:39 AM

Originally Posted By: myamom
Staple removal day!! smile


groovy Soon it will all be a distant memory. smile
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/22/11 02:49 PM

Stapes are removed....and all restrictions are off...Cheyenne can do whatever she pleases per doctor smile

He explained to me that her tumor is "low grade malignancy which almost never metastasizes". Because of that...he is hopeful. That being said...there can be cells present...and they can't be seen or removed...so there is always a chance of recurrence. He said he had to present all the options to us...one was chemo/radiation...the other wait and see approach. We opted for the wait and see approach...which he agreed with and said he would take that approach if this were his dog. He said for Cheyenne...the benefits to not doing chemo/radiation were greater than the risks of not doing it. He wants to continue monitoring her...and we have a recheck in 3 months. All in all...I think things sound very good for Cheyenne smile
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/22/11 03:04 PM

So, what is her diet? Do you have her on supplements with anti-cancer properties? Is her food low carb? How is her breathing? Still clear?

At every step, Cheyenne has been the poster child for the miracle come-back kid. I think Cheyenne is meant for greatness. Someday, she'll do something that will have a profound impact on somebody. It may be she's doing it right now. wub
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/22/11 03:12 PM

Well...I do have her on grain free TOTW-fish...but there are still carbs...but outside of raw or homecooking...I'm not sure what better options there are? We are not on any supplements yet. Her breathing is pretty much back to where we were...in that it becomes labored upon exertion...but the wheezing is very improved. It was the first thing he wanted to listen for today...and said...he could hear it slightly...but she was much better than before.

I have never talked about this before...but since we are now on a good road...I can. I think she would make an awesome "therapy dog" and could bring alot of joy to people. She is so sweet and sensitive..and totally wonderful with everyone and everything...and I think very relatable to the elderly...being a grandma herself who has her own stories to tell. While we aren't about to start school...I know there are facilities that will allow noncertified dogs (I used to take prepicked shelter dogs through the shelter's program). I will look into options for Cheyenne. I agree Lifeasme...she has a calling smile
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/22/11 03:13 PM

Open to supplement and diet ideas...just starting my research...thank you smile
Keep in mind...we also have Candida/yeast issues which I have to work on.
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/22/11 03:14 PM

Look on Banshee's mast cell cancer thread. I think there are lots of links for cancer supplements and diets there.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/22/11 03:34 PM

Cheyenne-therapy dog? She's been a therapy dog for me for a while.

Mary Jane
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/22/11 03:35 PM

So great she has been cleared, wonderful.

There is also the Cancer Sticky in the health index. Would definitely be looking at IP6.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/22/11 05:23 PM

Yea pretty girl.

I think you would make a great therapy dog, young or old patients.
Posted by: Tri-Shepherd

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/23/11 06:36 AM

How wonderful! So glad that she is doing so well! I agree she needs to grow a bit of fur on her bum so she doesn't tuck her tail like that! LOL! Well either that or she needs some stylish skirts and shorts to sit on. smile
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/23/11 08:11 PM

Well...we're all sick together here. My son and I have a fever, cough and sore throat. Today Cheyenne was coughing alot...laying around...and won't eat. Alert though. Keeping a close eye on this and hoping it's just a "doggie cold" ...it of course has me worried......weather has been brutal.
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/24/11 02:20 AM

oh NO, hope you all feel better soon...was just reading about the transmission of h1n1 from humans to animals. they CAN catch stuff from us. take care all!
Posted by: LJsMom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/24/11 08:47 PM

Hope everyone is feeling better!
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 10:28 AM

Sending some good health vibes to your family. Shoot I was hoping Cheyenne's breathing would stay on the better side.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 11:24 AM

My son is better...I'm still sick..but I am REALLY worried about Cheyenne. Something is just not right. She has been eating for me...but breathing is very bad...and today...she just won't settle....I don't really know how else to explain it..she just stands there...looking very sick...even if I call her up on the couch...she stands..sits...can't settle...gets down and stands in the middle of the room...
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 11:38 AM

she wouldn't eat her breakfast...I made her chicken broth with chicken and rice and she wont eat that either..
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 11:41 AM

Well your son must have great immunity since your whole household has had its share of infections this winter-glad he feels better.

I'm sorry that you're still sick. Caring about Cheyenne as we all do, I hate to read that you say that something isn't right, because you know her inside and out.
I just hope that everybody gets better.

I really hope that everybody gets better.

take care, please
Mary Jane
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 12:18 PM

Mary Ann, if you are concerned about Cheyenne then I am also. Does she have a fever? What Antibiotics was she on after surgery?

My wee little brain still keep coming back to her breathing better because of the Oxygen that she might have received during surgery. Like I posted earlier in this thread, my friend use to give her dog oxygen from the tanks she had for her dad, she would on bad days do two treatments and better days one and on good days none.
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 12:20 PM

Do you have a stethoscope at home? Have you given her any albuterol? The storm system was making my ears hurt last night as it came in. Wonder if it's affecting her breathing? It seems her breathing problems are always worse when a system comes in.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 12:21 PM

Her nose is warm and dry...fever?
I can't remember what antibiotic she was on after surgery ...
I just tried to give her a piece of cheese..won't even take that.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 12:31 PM

Mary Ann, any chance you can get her in for a Vet check today? I am concerned about a few things. Did the tack her stomach when they did the spay surgery? I am concerned about her stomach flipping (torsion) or a small bleed in there. After surgery abscess is another possibility.
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 12:34 PM

Maybe could you take her in to the vet? Might just be something that they could help resolve quicker than you expect. Maybe the vet can listen and see what he thinks of her breathing, check her temp too? I understand how worried you must feel. Please know that I am sending good thoughts Chey's way right now-- wishing for you and your vet to be able to get an easy, successful handle on this soon! We love Cheyenne!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 12:36 PM

No...they didn't tack her stomach.
I'm going to call
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 12:46 PM

I will be unable to be online for a couple of hours, I will check back as soon as I get back online.

Sending you guys some really good vibes.
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 04:30 PM

Checking in on Mary Ann and sweet Miss Cheyenne. Sending strong, powerful vibes for wellness for Chey. I'll be keeping her in my positive thoughts and prayers. Here's hoping that this is a minor glitch and that the vet can formulate an easy treatment plan to set Cheyenne back to feeling better with her tummy and her breathing. More positive vibes flowing out for Cheyenne!
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 05:45 PM

Mary Ann,

Joining the harmony of good vibes I send you all every possible good wish.

I'll be off-line for a few hours but I do look forward to hearing from you what the vet had to say about the beloved Cheyenne.

MJ
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 05:58 PM

Severe pneumonia. He's leaning towards aspiration being the cause...but no way to definitely know. It's very serious and he's not sure she will pull through. We are treating very aggressively
Posted by: LJsMom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 06:12 PM

Well I am confident that Grandma Chey can beat this! She just has to. Sending positive, healing thoughts your way. hugging
Posted by: Tara

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 06:19 PM

hugging Sending healing thoughts.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 06:21 PM

Crap Crap Crap.... This isn't what I wanted to hear.

Cheyenne you aren't done yet fighting to keep what you have. Sending you my very best strength vibes and healing vibes. Cheyenne dig deep sweetie I know you have some strength and fight left in your tank right now.
Posted by: matsired

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 06:24 PM

Mary Ann,

Thinking of Cheyenne and your family at this time. She's got many angels watching over who pulled her through many times. May that continue.

hugging
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 06:47 PM

Lots and lots and lots of healing thoughts being sent to Cheyenne... hugging
Posted by: TMarie

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 06:48 PM

Healing vibes and prayers being sent to Cheyenne. {hugs}
Posted by: PositiveDog

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 07:17 PM

Chey, hang in there sweet dog. hugging You have beat so many other things.

Mary Ann, I hope you feel better also. You have done so much for Cheyenne. I will be back checking in both of you.
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 07:23 PM

Mary Ann - was the surgeon called or just your regular vet? Let me know - remember Dylan (granted younger - but bad) - I am glad to see hitting it hard - that is the only way.

Do they think she would benefit from oxygen?

Is there a difference in tx from aspiration or regular - can anyone tell us that?

Anyone that can do some Reiki here?

hugging
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 07:28 PM

Mary Ann, beaming all I have for positive vibes, Reiki, healing energy-- everything-- for sweet Cheyenne. May the meds kick butt on these germs and clobber this infection quicker than we expect.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 07:33 PM

treating aggressively-does that include hydration? or is our white lady drinking water? is she at home?

Mary Ann, you're not well either, so please pace yourself.

Mj
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 08:02 PM

I am so sorry to hear this and am sending powerful healing thoughts to both of you. hugging
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 08:17 PM

I took her in to see my regular vet. He was very concerned with what he was hearing..so he took an x-ray...and it was very bad. Basically all white where the black should be for the lung fields. She only had one tiny patch of black. They gave her fluids (she was dehydrated and not drinking at all today)...and a shot (maybe diuretic?) I'm sorry...I have a 102 fever so I was kinda delerious down there. I know he said something about a tough balancing act between hydrating her and getting the fluid out of her lungs. She still won't eat...and he doesn't care...he wants her on complete rest...and all he wants is for her to start drinking. If not...we had to go back in the morning and repeat the fluids/shot again. We were also given two diff meds...Cefpodoxime 200 mg. (antibiotic) and Orbax 68 mg. (I'm not sure what that is)

She's home with me.
Try giving meds to a dog with no appetite..so she won't take willingly... that has a clench like a gator! My husband finally got them in and we kept seeing them reappear. After rubbing her neck forever...checking her gums...etc.. She's a professional.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 08:45 PM

thanks for the message.

I wish I could help you all...this time I think Sparkling White may need some supplement. my fervent hopes.

MJ
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 08:46 PM

Please Mary Ann, be sure that you yourself are staying hydrated and eating okay and getting as much rest as you are able to right now. Strong wishes for Cheyenne and those meds to put the kibosh on this and for this to turn around very soon. May the meds kick in and tomorrow morning find her appetite starting to return, and her presentation to be a bit more perky. All my good thoughts and prayers are beaming out for Cheyenne to rally and these meds to give her the oomph she needs against this infection.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 08:53 PM

Orbax info.... http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_orbifloxacin.html

Interesting Read about the combination of Cefpodomxime and Orbax.

Mary Ann, do you have a large syringe in the house? I would try giving her some fluids that way. Small amounts so she doesn't get it in her lungs.

Come on Cheyenne, Fight, fight, you have some strength left. It sounds like a bad situation, but you have been in bad situations before. You can fight this... You can...
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 08:59 PM

My gosh.

I don't know if it was because it was summer or what, but I put the fan near Dylan so he could "get oxygen" that way. It seemed to help a lot.

Fluid in the lungs for sure? Or just the white out of pneumonia? And why would fluids in her bother her lungs (SORRY - I know you aren't all there)

Marvista has a nice pneumonia article too with pics - very hopeful pics.

http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_pneumonia_management.html

Some things when you call tomorrow to ask about - nebulizer/vaporizer (or even steam shower room), couppage.

I am just hoping and praying here with everyone else.

DMG. Vitamin B if you don't have that. Chicken broth (low sodium). Big hugs.
Posted by: gsdraven

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 09:10 PM

hugging

Some more hugs and good thoughts that both you and Cheyenne start feeling better.
Posted by: Sage's mom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 09:21 PM

hugging Zooming good thoughts to you both
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 09:26 PM



Are you talking about why he wants to do diuretic? I thought to get rid of fluid in her lungs...but he said he can't do a diuretic on a dog that isn't drinking sufficiently.
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 09:35 PM

When Haley was in the hospital for pneumonia, they were pushing fluids because it helped break up the junk in her lungs. I'm a little confused on the use of diuretics for pneumonia.
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 09:35 PM

I am so sorry to hear the latest news hugging

Chey you are the Comeback Kid, strong healing vibes your way.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 09:42 PM

The shot could have been an antibiotic?
Gosh...like I said I'm out of it too.
and I'm having a hard time dealing with this.
why diuretic? I'll ask
still not eating and breathing bad
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 09:45 PM

this talks about diuretic

http://www.ehow.com/about_5498024_pneumonia-congestion-dogs.html

and the rest of it scared me to death
Posted by: Qyn

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 09:47 PM

Woah ... I didn't expect to read this. Best wishes to all of you. Waiting for better news hugginghughugging
Posted by: AvaLaRue

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 09:48 PM

oh my goodness. I had not checked in on this thread in a couple of days. I am so upset at this news. Healing thoughts go out to Chey and you! hugging
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 10:25 PM

oh mary ann, i knew as soon as i saw the increase in pages in this thread that all was not well. and to be sick yourself and trying to deal with this...well i will spend the rest of the evening wishing for strength for you and good energy for miss cheyenne. take care, get well...
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 11:39 PM

Zooming healing vibes to Chey (and to you).. not what I expected or wanted to read but let's all hope this is just another speed bump..
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/25/11 11:45 PM

Originally Posted By: JeanKBBMMMAAN
Anyone that can do some Reiki here?

hugging


I tried some novice reiki - kept falling asleep though (too tired!).

Please be careful with the googling. This is serious, but so was the tumor, and that had such a good prognosis. I'm a huge googler, but do be careful, this is Chey, and she is a fighter.
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/26/11 12:07 AM

Damnit...I haven't been on here this week. I wish you had said something earlier when I emailed you about Dakota. I'm going, actually already have started saying prayers for you both. Please take care of yourself. I know Chey is in the best of care, and hopefully you are too.
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/26/11 06:34 AM

Dammit poor Chey and you to be so poorly hugging All my prayers and positive healing thoughts being sent her way and hoping that the meds kick in and she is feeling better FAST hugging

Would it be worth calling the surgeon?
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/26/11 08:58 AM

Good morning and I hope with all my heart this is a good morning for the Mary Ann family. Please Cheyenne breathe easier.

I so much hope it was a restful night.

Mary Jane
Posted by: Good_Karma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/26/11 09:16 AM

Sending best wishes and healing thoughts. Please feel better Cheyenne!
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/26/11 09:23 AM

Good morning Mary Ann and Chey. So very many positive thoughts and prayers and vibes flowing out for you both. Wishing and hoping so much for improvement. We're all here loving Cheyenne.
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/26/11 10:26 AM

wishing and hoping and loving coming from all here in michigan too!
Posted by: shepnterrier

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/26/11 10:30 AM

Good morning, Mary Ann family. May your fever be gone this morning, Mary Ann, and may Cheyenne feel better. I am glad your DH is there to help you both. You sounded so sick you sure need to be cared for as well, staying warm and hydrated, getting chicken soup, and all.

Wish someone could stop by with a nebulizer. Antibiotics can be added to the water so they can get into the lungs directly. With my own asthma/pneumonia episodes, I found turning on the hot shower and steaming up the bathroom helps already.

All my best wishes to you and Chey.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/26/11 10:31 AM

Keep the prayers coming...they work! And Cheyenne is such a fighter...combined with the prayers...we can get through this.

I thought for sure we were going to the ER today. It was a tough night and this morning I didn't think she was going to get up. But she finally did..and then she drank ALOT of water....took her med in cheese...so I decided to push my luck and make some broth with chicken and rice..and she had some of that! She seems more alert today...as in..not that real sickly look she had yesterday with her eyes half shut.

it's really touch and go and I'm just taking this min. by min.
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/26/11 10:41 AM

Mary Ann,
Are you feeling any better? You had better have some of that chicken soup too! Encouraging that she looks and apparently is feeling better. I agree - it's going to be a minute to minute thing for a while. And I doubt that Chey will get to make a move without you watching. At least you have the e-vet in case you need them. Continuing to send healing thoughts to Cheyenne - and you too!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/26/11 10:43 AM

she brought up mucous and kibble twice this morning...ok..weird maybe...but could she have had kibble in her lungs? She does eat very weird...due to her bad teeth..so food going down wrong .. possible?
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/26/11 10:44 AM

Mary Ann, that is good news, steps forward and not backwards, HUGE - HUGE.

Good job Cheyenne you keep fighting, we are all sending you healing and strength vibes, good thoughts, prayers. You just take that all in and use it up and we will send some more. You can fight this sweetie, you can - you can.

Mary Ann that she drank some and ate a little is really good news. grouphug
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/26/11 11:30 AM

(sigh of relief)...so far so good. drinking and eating...yay!!!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/26/11 01:06 PM

she just insisted on going down my steps to potty in the yard! I had papers on the porch...as she didn't have the strength before. I was very worried about her doing that..but she did very well. So..to sum it up..she is now eating a little bit..taking her meds...drinking...seems more alert...
Asked Dr. about Nebulizer...he doesn't want to use it for her...said it would be too stressful for her.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/26/11 01:11 PM

Oh that is good news. Cheyenne you keep on trucking and fighting that nasty infection.

Mary Ann, is she comfortable in the bath room. Maybe run a steamy shower with Cheyenne in the room might help loosen up some of the junk in the lungs.

Sending more healing and strength vibes to Cheyenne. hugging
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/26/11 01:16 PM

Yay Cheyenne! You can do it! We are all praying and cheering you on, sweetie-girl!
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/26/11 01:17 PM

Very good news that she wanted to walk to the yard! Good idea Val - steamy shower does loosen up that gunk and get it out of the lungs. I've done this before with a kitty. Thought I was going to pass out in there because it got so hot and steamy, but it really did help him a lot.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/26/11 01:22 PM

Will do!!
We're also coupaging!

Here is a great video I found on it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrTqco9_jiE

I've never heard of this before.

I want to acknowledge Stormy's mom. (the momma adopted from SC...baby Ava's mommy) She is sending me supplements she used with great results getting stormy through her pneumonia.
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/26/11 01:48 PM

Coupage is great! I have had to do it when I had very bad bronchitis.

Thank you for taking such good care of Cheyenne. hugging
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/26/11 02:11 PM

Mary Ann,

This is such a wonderful trend-Cheyenne is getting better! Her drinking is great and eating her home-cooked food and insisting on preserving her dignity to excrete in the designated area. I mean she is really trying to do what she is supposed to do.

That is one strong dog.

Do please, pace yourself, this may be a long recuperation for one or both of you.

thank you,
MJ
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/26/11 06:34 PM

Just ate another bowl of chicken,rice, broth! Drinking...went out again!! Spent the day in deep peaceful sleep!!
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/26/11 07:00 PM

That's really great news, Mary Ann!
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/26/11 07:07 PM

Is she on anything to thin the mucus? Like a doggie equivalent of Mucinex?
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/26/11 07:15 PM

I don't think so.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/26/11 07:34 PM

Mary Ann, Just checking in on you and Cheyenne. I am glad she is eating, drinking, potting and sleeping well. Good sound sleeps will help her keep her energy up to fight the nasty infection. Cheyenne good girl, you gave us another scare.... you have to stop that. I know you like the attention, but really getting sick isn't good. You keep fighting to get healthy, I want to see a ton of spring and summer pictures of you enjoying the weather.

How are you feeling?????
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/27/11 12:05 AM



Thank you so much for praying for me!
Much love, hugs and kisses!
Cheyenne
Posted by: Qyn

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/27/11 12:59 AM

This is much better news than before. Good wishes for a continual improvement for both of you.
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/27/11 06:53 AM

Great news! party Good girl Miss Chey, that's the way hugging
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/27/11 11:26 AM

Originally Posted By: myamom




I am SO happy to see that face!

I hope you are all recovering today and tomorrow and the next day.

MJ
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/27/11 12:04 PM

EEEEEEEE!! I see her sweet face!! wub More good thoughts and prayers speeding your recovery, brave tough fighter Miss Cheyenne! We LOVE you!
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/27/11 12:35 PM

I come to this post this morning and I see a picture of Pretty Cheyenne.

You just keep being strong and fighting the yucky illness. You have a lot of living and lovin to do yet in your time here.

Sending more strength and healing vibes to you Cheyenne. hug
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/27/11 04:05 PM

always good to see that sweet, smiling face!
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/27/11 04:06 PM

OH MY....just got on here since last Thurs. I've been sick too.

Poor baby girl. I'm glad to read you are improving. Our prayers are coming your way. Cain sends you a big KISS!
Posted by: AvaLaRue

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/27/11 06:09 PM

Love seeing Miss Chey's face! Glad she is feeling better! Continued prayers going up for her to feel even better!!

I hope you are feeling better as well!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/28/11 09:51 AM

Scarey night last night. Lots of panting. I sat up with her...and thought for sure we'd be going to the hospital. She seems better this morning. I can deal with the coughing...the panting scares me.
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/28/11 10:10 AM

Figured I would switch over here Mary Ann instead of FB. You stated she ate breakfast and started panting again. Just curious - does the panting usually start after she eats?
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/28/11 10:15 AM

I'm not sure!! Why???
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/28/11 10:27 AM

Just trying to find some kind of common factor that might be causing the panting.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/28/11 10:32 AM

I know...I considered the meds too...but no.

I'm seriously going to lose it...and of course Christopher (after missing school all last week) has a fever again. Cheyenne had two accidents in the house this morning...Mary wanted to know why she has to go to school....ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/28/11 10:35 AM

Are YOU better??? (not emotionally - physically)
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/28/11 10:43 AM

Still coughing..no fever. On my list today is take a shower and try to feel human...things have to get better! lol
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/28/11 10:57 AM

Does the vet have her on a nebulizer treatment? Anything to thin the phlegm to help her expel it?

Also, to keep in mind, that as the gunk loosens up her breathing may get a bit worse because things are actually moving around. It will make it a bit harder to breathe. Have you considered that Cheyenne might have asthma? That might be something that should be looked at for her.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/28/11 01:20 PM

I took her to the vet...didn't like her breathing, panting and the color of her tongue. She was not cyanotic yet..dr doesn't like her breathing said she's borderline needing oxygen. We have some more things to throw at her today and if it's not better by this afternoon...he wants her hospitalized. (one med..lifeasme...is an asthma med to hopefully open her up)
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/28/11 01:34 PM

I'm terribly sorry to hear that Cheyenne may need hospitalization but I continue to be awed at the care she enjoys in Mary Ann's hands.

If Chey has to go to the hospital-they have options that may help her heal faster-think IV antibiotics, fluids, as well as oxygen.

This is tough, but she is such a strong dog.

MJ
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/28/11 01:49 PM

Question...a very sweet person mailed this to Cheyenne

http://www.dogsupplementsonline.com/dognutrition-immunedog.html

Since we are doing her meds morning and night...would it be safe to give her this midday?
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/28/11 01:51 PM

Cheyenne sweetie this isn't exactly what I wanted to read this am. Sending you a bunch more healing and strength vibes. You need to keep fighting sweetie, you can do this.

Mary Ann, I hope the stuff works today, but being hospitalized may not be the worse option for her. Sending you hugs to help you through the day.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/28/11 01:54 PM

Thank you.
Never did get that shower...I was sick in my pj's all weekend...so I looked like a loon at the vet's office...and from no sleep and just being frazzled...I just cried the whole time...so I acted like a loon too...a scarey looking one.
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/28/11 02:25 PM

I'm sorry Mary Ann...it just breaks my heart with everything she's been through and I know you are just frazzled beyond belief. Hugs to you both...

hugging
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/28/11 02:33 PM

I remember as a kid having "the croup" as my mom called it. I remember it being hard to breath, especially when you had all that mucous in your chest. She would pat us on the back trying to loosen it up. Until you get it out of the body, it's going to cause problems. I wish you weren't feeling so crappy, because it makes the whole thing worse to deal with emotionally. She's in good hands and she's tough. Is she still eating? If she is, then that's great. Just need to get through a few days and get that stuff out of her chest...
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/28/11 02:43 PM

The respiratory therapists did that with DD too. They cupped their hand and lightly 'thumped' on her back where her lungs are.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/28/11 02:53 PM

yes....coupage...we're doing that.
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/28/11 04:33 PM

sending more good thoughts and some extra strength to both cheyenne and you, mary ann. some days i tell myself, "just keep putting one foot in front of the other"...sounds like you might be about at that point yourself. nice hot shower might help! take care, will check back later this evening...
Posted by: lil'mister

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/28/11 07:16 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom
Question...a very sweet person mailed this to Cheyenne

http://www.dogsupplementsonline.com/dognutrition-immunedog.html

Since we are doing her meds morning and night...would it be safe to give her this midday?


Hi Maryann,

I was reading up on the link you provided. Just a heads up that the page provides the following quote at the very end: "These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. This product is not intended to diagnose. treat, cure or prevent any disease."

Not sure how much value you personally hold in medications being FDA approved or not? I'm thinking your consideration in purchasing this for Cheyenne would be to prevent further issues down the road. However, for the product to clearly state that it doesn't "prevent" a disease? Generally speaking, if we aren't treating our pets ailments, then we are usually trying to prevent something from happening. So under what pretense am I giving this to my pet?

Just my 2cents. You can't do wrong by Cheyenne no matter what you decide wink

p.s. Get a shower whistling
Posted by: LJsMom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/28/11 07:38 PM

Originally Posted By: lil'mister
"These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. This product is not intended to diagnose. treat, cure or prevent any disease."

Not sure how much value you personally hold in medications being FDA approved or not? I'm thinking your consideration in purchasing this for Cheyenne would be to prevent further issues down the road. However, for the product to clearly state that it doesn't "prevent" a disease? Generally speaking, if we aren't treating our pets ailments, then we are usually trying to prevent something from happening. So under what pretense am I giving this to my pet?

Just my 2cents. You can't do wrong by Cheyenne no matter what you decide wink

p.s. Get a shower whistling


All the supplements either I take or I give to my dogs say this.

I give probiotics 3 hours after antibiotics. So, midday should be ok.
Posted by: PositiveDog

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/28/11 07:45 PM

Sending cyber hugs to Chey and family. grouphug What a sad and difficult time for everyone.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/28/11 08:17 PM

I took a shower...OK!! rofl

Seriously...how embarrassing! Picture being in your pj's all weekend...no shower...and then HAVING to rush to the Dr's office... lurking

I had the panting under control this afternoon (still has the heavy chest breathing)...so told the Dr. I was comfortable trying to stay home. He said if I'm comfortable..he's comfortable. He said to page him if I need him...and of course...the ER is always open.

We still have intermittent panting...but not continuous. I have to give another bunch of meds tonight...and since I saw a tad of improvement with the first round...I'm hoping to see even more this round. Praying so very hard for some peace and relief for her tonight....and a good nights sleep.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/28/11 08:44 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom
Praying so very hard for some peace and relief for her tonight....and a good nights sleep.


X2
Posted by: Qyn

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 02/28/11 09:09 PM

X3 (or X4 if it helps) hug
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/01/11 08:07 AM

X4 hugging
Posted by: LJsMom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/01/11 08:56 AM

Hope everyone is feeling better this morning!
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/01/11 10:12 AM

Did you wear a Snuggie with your greasy hair sticking up or no? wink

I agree, hope everyone is feeling better this morning.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/01/11 11:15 AM

Mary Ann checking in on you and Cheyenne this AM. I hope the new meds help her.

Sending more strength and healing vibes to Cheyenne.

Hugs to you and your family.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/01/11 11:44 AM

Good morning,

Seconding all the hopes for overnight rest and maybe some improvement. Is the sun out in PA?

take care,
MJ
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/01/11 12:42 PM

We had a good night and today she seems much better!

Jean...my snuggie was inside out and backwards!!
Posted by: LJsMom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/01/11 12:49 PM

Wonderful news! Except for the snuggie!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/01/11 02:13 PM

I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING...IT'S OFFICIALLY ONE YEAR SINCE CHEYENNE CAME TO LIVE WITH US!!!!!



party
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/01/11 02:26 PM

Yea, that is a good sign. Happy 1 Year Anniversary and I hope there are many more. party
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/01/11 07:28 PM

A YEAR, how can that BE??????

ps...so glad for the good night!
Posted by: AvaLaRue

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/01/11 08:35 PM

Happy 1 year!!! So glad she is feeling better today!!
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/01/11 08:50 PM

One year...wow! Happy Gotcha Day gorgeous girl. Did you get a new outfit for your special day???

Wonderful news that Cheyenne is feeling better, Mary Ann. Hope you are too!

Very happy for your family that you get to celebrate this special day and amazing girl!! vaseroses
Posted by: Tara

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/01/11 09:19 PM

Happy Gotcha day Cheyenne! So glad you're feeling better!
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/02/11 08:25 AM

party party So pleased she is doing better too, now keep it up Miss Chey! hugging
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/11 09:55 AM

Good morning,

I trust everybody at Mary Ann's, human and canine, feels a little better.

Mary Jane
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/11 10:50 AM

Cheyenne continues to get better every day!! Thank you once again for the outpouring of prayers and well wishes...again...they have helped Cheyenne defy the odds!!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/11 10:56 AM

Best friends...the relationship between these two is truly heartwarming!! They show true love and concern for eachother.



Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/11 01:58 PM

YAY Cheyenne - Mary Ann - this is the "psycho" cat right? wub I love that there is such a bond there. He is watching over her.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/11 02:02 PM

Cheering Cheyenne on to better health. You can do it pretty girl. Who is your Cat guardian?? eringobragh
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/11 02:57 PM

Yes...this is my "nasty" girl...lol. She spent years in isolation...hating the world. (we actually had a vet tell us to put her down when she was a kitten because she was "mean"...oh please...we survived...lol.) Of course it didn't help matters that I also had two GSD's that wanted to harrass her..so she spent more of her time in her gated off room. But it's a new life for her since we got Cheyenne. Cheyenne just adores Baby kitty...and Baby took right to her. It's truly amazing! So now...while Ava spends her days totally obsessed with watching the cat (I swear..we've never been able to break her of that)...she now has someone watching HER...lol. If Ava even thinks about going near the kitty...Cheyenne gives her a correction. When kitty walks across the room...Cheyenne plants herself between Ava and the kitty. Baby kitty is out all the time now...hanging out with her bodyguard Cheyenne...lol. Na na na na na Ava...lol. Baby rubs all over Cheyenne...Cheyenne kisses her...it's adorable. I am so happy for Baby kitty...her life is so good now smile
Posted by: Charlotte

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/11 03:52 PM

So glad to see Chey is doing better. Hope you are feeling better too hugging
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/11 03:57 PM

Cheyenne did her own rescue, Baby Kitty is now part of the family. Cheyenne says there is enough love to go around and she will make sure the Baby gets to have a loving life just like she has. How neat is that. Cheyenne you are truly one amazing girl. I wonder if she sees Baby Kitty as a lost sole or some thing small (like puppy) that needs her protection.

Cheyenne Hugs to you.
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/11 07:13 PM

made me think right away of little butch. always so glad to read great updates on miss cheyenne.
Posted by: PositiveDog

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/03/11 07:40 PM

Every day I check in on Chey and hope for the best. When there are a lot of replies I am half afraid to look.

Today is a good day and I wish for her so many 100s more!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/11 11:26 AM

Well well well...I've created a little monster here!! She refuses to eat now that I'm trying to cut off her Chicken soup!!
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/11 12:04 PM

She is one smart girl. Maybe she doesn't feel she is well enough not to have her chicken soup. Mary Ann if you have to make Chicken Soup to keep the queen happy I think that is just what you might have to do at least for a while. eringobragh
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/11 01:25 PM

rofl She knows what she's doing.
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/11 01:25 PM

Cheyenne and Baby - that is one of the sweetest things I've ever heard and great pictures... I'll bet Baby's personality is changing too, now that she feels safe. I'm happy for her that she doesn't feel she has to isolate herself.

Well if Chey wants chicken soup, then I think you better just keep making it for her!! poke
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/11 01:47 PM

Just wonderful...tried some canned broth and she turned her nose up at it. Off to the store...that stinker!! I think she just asked me where her new hat is too...this is all going to her head!!
Posted by: Woodreb

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/11 02:11 PM

Cheyenne knows a good thing when she sees it. laugh

Isn't it great how they train us?
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/11 06:30 PM

You expect Queen Chey to eat "normal dog food"?

Oh Mary Anne.. you should know better by now! wink
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/04/11 07:23 PM

Cheyenne-- I am super busy but wanted you to know that I continue to send healing thoughts your way. I am very glad you have a kitty friend and also that your mama understands who is boss in the house. Keep holding out for that homemade chicken soup! My Jewish mother approves! thumbup
Posted by: Qyn

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/11 01:51 AM

Glad to read she continues to improve - wonderful news! I hope you are also recovering well
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/11 05:33 AM

Hehe you have created a chicken soup monster rofl Well I hope Chey gets her new hat!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/11 02:07 PM

Still doing good here!

Off antibiotic...doing another round of Orbax. Off Vetmedin (heart failure med)...staying on Enalapril (another heart failure med) a little longer.(he had put her on both heart meds after our 2nd visit where she wasn't doing well...temporary thing...and whatever they do...she got better pretty fast) Weaning off Diuretic. Staying on asthma med for now. Recheck next week.

Sorry for the boring update...but again...I also like to keep this as a diary of everything.

Huge pot of chicken soup cooking...Mary will be sharing as now she's sick too. Everyone else is on the mend smile

Started adding some immunity support that was sent to me for Cheyenne...she'll be superwoman in no time smile

I know people/dogs don't catch things from eachother...but it is freaky the entire house got sick at the same time.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/11 02:31 PM

Mary Ann,

Madam, after some of the hair-raising shocks that Cheyenne put you through, we're extremely glad for a boring update.

Thanks for the calm,

MJ

ETAm

I hope the chicken soup works for Mary, too
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/11 02:42 PM

now they've found that people and dogs do catch (some) things from each other. oh no, now it's mary, bring on the chicken soup!
Posted by: AvaLaRue

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/05/11 03:15 PM

Wooohooo Thanks for a boring update! That means Chey is feeling better! I hope she gets a new hat soon though. Perhaps something a little bit Irish?
Posted by: Qyn

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/06/11 07:16 AM

Originally Posted By: myamom
Still doing good here!


These reports are never boring!
Posted by: shepnterrier

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/06/11 09:45 AM

Reports about recovery are very exciting!!!

I just got an update from a senior chihuahua whom I had pulled almost three years ago wheezing with acute pneumonia. The pound even gave her a rabies shot on top of that at release, it almost sent her over the top. She wasn't even to be shown to rescue as nobody at the pound expected a rescue to take her. She had a will to live though, and was full of character, so I pulled her. She recovered. Had one relapse since, last year, caught early, and overcame that, too. Her mom emailed me last night that "Daisy is ticking strong, and refusing to eat the same thing every day. She is a prima donna extraordinaire!" That made me think of Grannie Cheyenne!

We keep sending healing energy to Cheyenne. I am so glad she is feeling better. And you, too.

PS Daisy was on antibiotics for weeks. She also had quite a heart murmur, I forgot the grade. And dental disease. She got a dental cleaning, came out of it great, my vet does excellent anesthesia.
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/09/11 05:15 PM

How is Cain's sweet baby girlfriend?
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/10/11 12:22 AM

we're wondering too...
Posted by: AvaLaRue

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/10/11 07:36 AM

Just checkin' in on Chey. Hope all is well since there have been no posts recently.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/10/11 11:36 AM

Hi!! smile

We're doing well! Still getting her Chicken soup....today - 4:00 - is her re-check with the vet...will keep you posted!!

If I don't post...we're on flood watch here and by then I may be sandbagging...yikes. Cheyenne has all her little hats packed and asked when the next transport back to Georgia is...LOL.
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/10/11 05:41 PM

Kentucky is closer than Georgia! Come to me Cheyenne smile

Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/10/11 08:24 PM

Wow!!! What a hunk...what a beautiful couple they make!! She'd never want to leave!! smile

(stunning pic...I love that sweet expression!!)

Hardest rains coming over night..so we'll have to sit up tonight watching...and then if it starts coming over...barracading.
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/10/11 08:38 PM

So what did the vet say?
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/10/11 09:07 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom
Wow!!! What a hunk...what a beautiful couple they make!!


I totally agree-but WHAT DID THE VET SAY?

(sorry to badger you, Mary Ann)

Mary Jane
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/10/11 09:14 PM

oh ....sorry!!! LOL

Her x-rays are drastically improved!!! Basically..she's over this!! He wants her to stay on one heartmed...he said he knows the Internist had a diff. opinion...but he feels she needs it for stability right now. She is off all other meds. He wants me to keep the asthma meds handy on an as needed basis.

We talked about her immune system which he said has to be nil at this point. We talked about her recurrent yeast infections in her ears. He does not want to treat as he said the meds are pretty potent and he doesn't want to throw anything else at her. He wants us to go the probiotic route to strengthen her immune system..which will hopefully help her from getting sick all the time...including the ear issues....which I've already started doing.

Her weight remained stable...breathing is good...and her coat is looking excellent. There was a vet student there and he just couldn't believe her story.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/10/11 09:16 PM

P.S.-he couldn't believe how fast she improved...she's superdog!! smile
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/10/11 09:31 PM

Perhaps you might sometime mention to your vet that Cheyenne has a HUGE fanclub! party party party She is indeed superdog! May she continue to amaze and delight you and your vet and your family! We love Cheyenne! wub
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/10/11 10:01 PM

Patti...I told the vet, surgeon, internist and all their staff about all of you wonderful people...and that your prayers, support and well wishes are what keep her trucking along!! smile
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/10/11 10:03 PM

I think this deserves a St. Patrick's day hat!!
Kiss me...I'm Irish....lol

eringobragh
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/10/11 10:06 PM

That is what I like to hear. She is SUPER DOG because of the super love and care she gets at your house, that includes the chicken soup.

I think it helps that she gets all this love and support from her fan club, but it all started with Southern Cross and you and your family taking her into foster care.

Give Cheyenne a big hug from Auntie Val and tell her I knew she could kick that illness butt.

I can see she is going to need some new spring duds.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/10/11 10:33 PM

Thank you Val..I will give her a big hug!

One thing the vet said...keep those asthma meds around...because once summer heat hits...she may need them.........

you know...that was music to my ears...summer...who would have ever imagined we'd be talking about her next summer!
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/10/11 10:34 PM

Just amazing... I am so happy to hear she's doing well, Mary Ann. And so thankful to you, your family and Southern Cross. Her destiny was, without doubt, to be with you and yours. I'm just so darned happy that she's doing so well!!! happyboogie
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/10/11 10:37 PM

Fantastic news! Needed some good news today! I think I need to go shopping for a hat from me and the furbabies!
Posted by: GSDTrain

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/10/11 11:07 PM

So great to hear!!
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/10/11 11:47 PM

Mary Ann, I had a horse that I gave Aminophylline to for breathing problems, in the winter I could bring the dosage down, but in the summer we had to up it. http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=9725 There can be some side effects with this Med but it worked wonders for my horse.
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/11/11 12:34 AM

yes, whoever would have thought? looks like her hospice care is gonna morph into foster failure...lol.

hey, good luck with those floods, we're flooding here too but not NEARLY as bad as you could be. take care.
Posted by: Qyn

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/11/11 03:57 AM

Keep the good news coming both for Cheyenne and the flood!
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/11/11 04:45 AM

SOOOOO happy to come here and read this!

All I can say is - WOOOOHOOO!!!!!!!! YOU GO GIRL!!!!!

Mary Ann, your and angel!
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/11/11 05:41 AM

party Superdog alright!!!!!

I am so happy right now to read these wonderful updates, you have done such an amazing job with her smile
Posted by: AvaLaRue

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/11/11 07:02 AM

eringobragh This is such great news!!! I just wub Chey!
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/13/11 05:52 PM

mary ann, how's the flood situation? you all okay???
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/13/11 09:36 PM

Oh..that was a long night...I stayed up all night watching...came into the yard...but it didn't reach the house! Thank you so much for asking!!
You had to see Cheyenne's face when I let her out the next morning. The river is very loud and powerful when it's high..and lots of big things rushing by. She stood there staring...what the heck is this? lol
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/14/11 02:26 PM

so glad to hear that all's good your way for now! stay safe!
Posted by: AvaLaRue

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/18/11 08:21 AM

Just checking in...was hoping for some pics of Miss Chey in a St. Paddy's day hat!!

Hope all is well!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/18/11 11:46 AM

IRISH KISSES FOR YOU LEIGH AND EVERY ONE OF MY DEAR DEAR FRIENDS!!! SMOOCH!!


Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/18/11 12:22 PM

That face is worth a million dollars vaseroses

love,
Mary Jane
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/18/11 12:39 PM

What a beauty! wub
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/18/11 12:40 PM

wub Oh Chey, your so gorgeous!
Posted by: GSDElsa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/18/11 01:15 PM

Om g so cute!
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/18/11 01:17 PM

EEEEEEEEEEEEE!! happyboogie Chey in a snazzy green patterned scarf! Stunning beauty and ADORABLE eyes! My heart leaps when I see her. So happy to be so very cherished... wub
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/18/11 01:59 PM

Mary Ann, glad to hear that you were safe from the floods.

Thanks for posting the picture of Cheyenne.

How are things going health wise, is she still holding you hostage on the Chicken Soup deal?? I hate to ask but how is her breathing.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/18/11 02:14 PM

Well Val...

She was going for a while doing AWESOME! Not even anymore coughing..at all!! Her coat is looking beautiful and she's been very active.

Two new issues cropped up..

About two days ago...I noticed blood on her back. Gosh...I couldn't imagine what it was. Picking through her fur...I see a big (50 cent size) area of scab, blood, gunk. Not sure if she had a cyst...or if it's just part of her skin issues we constantly battle. I have seen her have gunk at the base of her fur when she's at her worst...where you can actually just pull her fur out in chunks. But I've never seen blood,scab. Wondering if maybe she had a cyst that ruptured?

Yesterday she just seemed...slower...pausing alot coming up the steps. Today the same...but now starting to do some coughing. Could be hips? Could be her breathing issues acting up again? Combination of both? Keeping a close eye on this.

I have her on supplements for immune system and skin/coat. I'll have to start for hips as well. She was doing so well...I had cut her heart med down to once a day vs. twice a day (as Internist says she doesn't need it at all...my vet thinks she needs for support...so there's a little controversy on it anyway) I am going back to twice a day in light of her coughing again today.

I found a solution to our Chicken Soup dilemma!! The supplements I have her on (K9 showstopper coat and skin and K9 immune dog double immune support) which come in powdered form must be super yummy because she's now devouring her kibble since I've added it.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/18/11 02:31 PM

Well darn not the best news but not the worst. He skin issues might be flaring up from the surgery.

Is she on a Bronchodialtor? If her lungs have been damaged due to her life circumstances I think that might be some thing to consider.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/18/11 02:39 PM

Val!! Thanks for reminding me!!
I do have a prescription of Theophylline http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theophylline
which she is now off...but my Dr. wanted me to always keep on hand and use as needed (would this be considered a bronchodialator?). If this starts to escalate...I will put her back on that.
My mind is just totally gone...too many issues..it's hard to focus sometimes...lol Thank you!!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/18/11 02:40 PM

See how much I need you guys? grouphug
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/18/11 03:18 PM

No problem Mary Ann, I just know what a big help it was for my horse with her breathing problems. So I thought I would just throw that out.
Posted by: AvaLaRue

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/18/11 08:24 PM

Awww thanks for the Irish picture!! She looks beautiful in her scarf!!

Sorry Chey hasn't been feeling well the past few days. Hopefully it will clear up soon!!!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/19/11 10:13 PM

heavy breathing today. We're back on chicken soup. gave the asthma med. I hope she's not relapsing!
sigh
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/19/11 11:02 PM

Maybe she's faking it so I make Chicken soup
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/19/11 11:29 PM

Malingerer!!!!!!!

I love antibiotics - Dylan was on them for quite a while. Just something to talk to your vet about. smile
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/20/11 01:43 AM

Originally Posted By: JeanKBBMMMAAN
I love antibiotics - Dylan was on them for quite a while. Just something to talk to your vet about. smile


thumbup
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/20/11 10:14 AM

Cheyenne has been on antibiotics in some shape or form...for some reason or another...almost consistently since I got her (with just little breaks of no issues)

wondering if she is a case that just needs to stay on a low dose antibiotic?

How long was Dylan on the antibiotic for his pneumonia? Was he still on for a period even after it cleared up?
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/21/11 12:09 PM

Hi Mary Ann,

Whatever Cheyenne needs, medically or spiritually, she is getting/will get with you, if it is humanly possible. That sweet dog can't raise a paw that isn't scrutinized and decoded.

I surely want Cheyenne to continue to get the best care on earth, I just wish you wouldn't second guess yourself-Miss Cheyenne doesn't.

everybody take care,
Mary Jane
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/21/11 12:47 PM

Thank you MJ for the encouragement...you are just so sweet!!

Today's update...still coughing a little...but not progressing...I am comfortable with her right now...just monitoring and supplementing. Last night she was quite zippy and playful and bit me in the behind again..that stinker...so she's feeling good smile
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/22/11 11:41 PM

every good day is such a gift...
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/28/11 10:58 AM

How is Miss Chey doing?

Old man Cain chased a cat down the hill in our back yard Sat. He doesn't usually run, so this was NOT good for his hips. He was very slow coming back up, and walked slow and limpy all day. His walking seemed some better Sunday.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/28/11 01:54 PM

OK Mary Ann time for a weekly update. Don't think it is boring if Cheyenne is stable. We like Stable.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/28/11 03:22 PM

Hi!!
Ha...no chasing kitties Mr. Cain!! Glad to hear he is feeling better!!

We're doing good here. Coughing (KNOCK ON WOOD) has subsided!!

She's slow coming up the stairs...this I believe is just due to her bad hips (and I'm sure her not so good lungs don't help). She has always been pretty unstable...if you accidentally bump into her you can knock her right off her feet. We never really focused on this issue before as we had so many other elephants standing in the room. All in all thought, she really gets around pretty darn good!

So...we have the hips...and her constant ear infections/skin issues to deal with. She is definitely a project. I feel bad about her ears...other than cleaning..we're doing nothing else. Dr. did not want to medicate. Any suggestions? I believe it's yeast. (hope this isn't an odd question...but I am doing this super yogurt for her immune system...this doesn't exacerbate yeast problems does it?) Any suggestions dealing with yeast/ear infections would be appreciated. I know it really bothers her...she shakes her head...and winces if you accidentally rub her ear while petting.

Of course...all pretty darn benign issues considering what she's overcome!!

Looking forward to summer number 2!! Yes...I said that smile
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/28/11 04:18 PM

Zymox for the ears. It is an enzyme based product. I will get you some links after while. I have to get to my Chiro. Appt.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/29/11 12:36 AM

MaryAnn. Here is a shopping link to the Zymox Products that I use.
http://www.germanshepherdhome.net/shop/zymox-products/
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/29/11 01:16 AM

I'm a fan of the zymox products too....
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/29/11 01:39 PM

I started using it by a recommendation by pretty sure it was Lisa(lhczth)a few years ago.

I know at times I sound like a broken record with these products but I have had really good success.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/29/11 05:56 PM

THANK YOU!!!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/29/11 06:05 PM

Can someone explain hydrocortisone vs. hydrocortisone free? How do I choose?
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/29/11 08:35 PM

hydrocortisone vs. hydrocortisone free

hydrocortisone: helps reduce the swelling, itching and redness.

I would get some of both and if her ears are sore and red I would use the hydrocortisone, one I got them to a manageable stage I would use the hydrocortisone free.

I just got an email this am with a sales code.

Use

SPRINGSALE

to receive 10% OFF ANY SIZE ORDER!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/29/11 09:56 PM

Thank you for the info...and thank you for the code...that's fantastic! smile
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 03/29/11 10:39 PM

Great update, Mary Ann!! It is amazing what she's been through. What a tough 'ole gal!! wub Now you can focus on the ears and skin and I'm betting that you'll get that handled too! hugging
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/06/11 12:50 PM

Cheyenne in "Mary's School of Obedience"...LOL

Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/06/11 01:34 PM

Much as I love Cheyenne, it looks like Ava is Teacher's Pet.

Great daughter, great dogs!

thanks,
MJ
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/06/11 01:53 PM

Couldn't stop laughing...eh...Cheyenne...just take the treat...LOL!!
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/06/11 02:07 PM

I am glad to see that our girl is doing well. I was waiting for my weekly update.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/06/11 02:09 PM

Doing good Val!! smile
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/06/11 08:50 PM

What good little students! Love it Mary Ann! Hugs to all!
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/07/11 07:32 AM

I love the end where the race is on!!!!
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/10/11 12:23 AM

cheyenne is a testament to the power of love. summer #2. gotta say it again, who ever would have thought?????
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/11/11 04:55 PM

Originally Posted By: katieliz
cheyenne is a testament to the power of love. summer #2. ...


and Easter bonnet #2 smile
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/11/11 05:10 PM

Just saw the video--love it! She and Cleo are the come back kids!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/12/11 11:47 AM

awwww...YES CLEO!! I love that sweetie!! I am so glad she continues to do well!! These animals are so amazing!

Yes...time to go Easter Bonnet shopping...and to think she will look so much better this year...who would have thought she would continue to get BETTER!

Please excuse my lack of updates..as we are dealing with some issues here. A series of meeting have been held lately..and yesterday we delt with the devastating news that the Bishop is shutting down our school. It will be basically disenfranchising many families from a Catholic education. Everyone is devastated...lots of crying in the school today...teachers, families, children. We are trying to cope and console our children..and make some very difficult decisions for the future. A series of meetings will be held this week...but it is a done deal. Praying for the right answers and what is best for my children. They are so heartbroken...we are as well..and it's a very difficult time.

Back to Cheyenne...still keeping her in forefront...so that others are inspired by her story. These beautiful old souls bring so much joy and give back so much...and there are miracles to be had. Cheyenne, Cleo, Mila, Sherman and so many others are a true testament to that. Love you all!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/20/11 09:41 AM

What the heck? Not sure if we have two issues...or one...

We have about 3 brown spots...looking at the skin I don't really see any skin issue in these areas...



then she also had a huge scab on her back (not in an area she can lick or chew at) and when the scab came off...it took a huge patch of fur with it. Could this be a...a....cyst? boil? ugh...what?




Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/20/11 10:56 AM

Yikes...someone mentioned maybe ringworm???? Do I have to run to the vet again???
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/20/11 11:30 AM

Was it an abscess that burst?
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/20/11 11:43 AM

Ruth...that was my initial thoughts. It's in an area that she cannot chew or bite at. I first noticed this when I was betting her and felt a large "bump" under her fur. When I parted her fur...I saw this large scab...about the size of a quarter. I just didn't bother it...and yesterday it came off...taking the fur with it. So...to bleed/ooze/scab on it's own...I just assumed abscess.

But someone had to mention ringworm...so now I'm all heebie jeebie over this...lol

and those brown patches...wondering now if all these areas tie together or are separate issues

When I examine the skin in those brown fur areas..eh..the skin may look slightly scaley/dry? nothing major. So again...ringworm??? EEK or just irritated skin that she constantly chews at...turning the fur this color.

sigh...I wasn't that concerned..since we've battled skin issues, allergies, staph all along...but now...I'm freaked out...that my house is contaminated with creeping crud or something...LOL

as long as it's not ringworm...I can deal with anything else. I just don't want to overreact and run to the vet as we practically live there as it is.
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/20/11 12:26 PM

I don't know anything about ringworm but the hole in the middle and damaged skin look like an abscess to me. Basu used to get them all of the time, often right in that spot on the back.

Do you have any calendula cream? That always healed things up very quickly.

ETA: I don't know how to explain the other spots except to say that she has a history of skin problems and it's spring now...a wet, moldy spring at that!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/20/11 12:41 PM

Whew! I feel better...I was starting to feel itchy...lol. My gut thought abscess too...I'll get some calendula cream today...THANK YOU SO MUCH.

Does anyone know if constant chewing on a white dog can discolor the fur? Maybe that is the explaination on the other spots...
Posted by: Tara

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/20/11 12:46 PM

You can try the black light test for ringworm and see if it glows. It's not really conclusive though because not all ringworm glows, so it won't completely eliminate ringworm as a possibility if it doesn't glow. But if it does glow a bright green it's a pretty good indication that there is ringworm.
Posted by: Tara

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/20/11 12:48 PM

Yes, saliva can stain fur. You see it a lot on little white fluffy dogs who chew on their feet.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/20/11 12:57 PM

Thank you Tara!
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/20/11 03:58 PM

Kailor is white and right now has staining under both eyes (because she's having an allergy flare-up). When she starts chewing herself she turns a similar color to Cheyenne's spots.
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/23/11 09:24 PM

gosh, don't have a clue about what this could be...just want to send my usual good thoughts and blessings to cheyenne and your family. hope better, warmer weather brings a resolution to this most recent problem. take care mary ann!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/23/11 10:49 PM

HAPPY EASTER!!!! My 2nd Easter!! butterfly








Hugs and kisses to everyone!!
Love, Cheyenne

bloomrose
Posted by: GSDTrain

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/23/11 10:50 PM

Happy Easter to you too Miss. Cheyenne! smile
Posted by: Woodreb

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/24/11 12:38 AM

She is so beautiful. Love her Easter hat.
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/24/11 12:55 AM

She looks incredible with her Easter Bonnet.

Happy 2nd Easter, Miss Cheyenne. Thank you to her rescue and family for giving her the chance.
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/24/11 01:27 AM

I LOVE that second picture. She is such a character. wub
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/24/11 02:17 AM

i love this dog!

happy easter beautiful girl (and your family too mary ann)!

Posted by: Lexi

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/24/11 03:21 AM

Gorgeous!!! wub
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/24/11 07:27 AM

Oh she made my night wub Happy Easter Elegant Miss Chey smile
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/24/11 10:09 AM

Mary Ann, family and Southern Cross; Cheyenne looks so much better than she did a year ago. Thank you for helping this wonderful old gal.
Posted by: AvaLaRue

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/24/11 03:17 PM

Love Miss Cheyenne in her Easter bonnett! Happy Easter, Mary Ann, Chey and family!!
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/24/11 07:55 PM

Happy Easter Chey smile
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/24/11 08:22 PM

Happy Easter to you Cheyenne and your amazing family. Wishing many blessings for you all this year. Wow - her second Easter - how wonderful!!

And the easter bonnet is quite stunning.. wub
Posted by: Charlotte

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/24/11 08:39 PM

Such the fashionable lady. Happy Easter Chey!
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/26/11 01:52 PM

She is just precious! What a beautiful girlfriend Cain has smile
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 04/30/11 09:49 PM

thinkin' about that beautiful girl today!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/03/11 12:18 PM

still doing good here smile

We had one hot day with high humidity...and she really struggled with her breathing. Wondering what the summer will bring...


One day at a time...thank you for thinking of her! smile
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/03/11 12:35 PM

Great to hear, Mary Ann!!! groovy
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/04/11 09:59 AM

Originally Posted By: myamom
still doing good here smile


thank goodness!

Originally Posted By: myamom
We had one hot day with high humidity...and she really struggled with her breathing. Wondering what the summer will bring...


Despite air conditioning, Wolf slows down when it's hot-but his immobility allows us to point a box fan right on his favorite rug where he's stretched out. Maybe the moving air will help Miss Chey?

It's great to hear from you,
MJ
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/05/11 11:48 AM

Hi Mary Ann, Glad to hear that Cheyenne is holding stable. That is a good thing. I still believe that her lungs are compromised in some way. When the air get heavier it is harder for her to get enough in her lungs.

Don't feel bad but hot humid days I have 4 dogs that I have to pry out of the A/C house, well 3 DeeDee will go out and lay in the direct sun when it is 90 degrees out.
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/10/11 08:39 PM

i think of her every day mary ann, your beautiful card hangs on my fridge! cheyenne is a very lucky girl...the stars aligned for her right from the beginning and things have just continued to get better. the expectation for short-term hospice care has morphed into two years...every day is an unexpected gift, i am in awe of her resilience, stamina...and of your family's care and love. bless her heart (again), and your's, and many, many blessings to southern cross and molly, out there in the trenches daily making a difference in the lives of so many sheppies.
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/23/11 02:27 PM

Hey Mary Ann, how is that sweet baby Chey doing? Cain asked me to find out smile

Cain has fallen a couple of times in the house for no apparent reason. He was just walking around the kitchen table and his back legs went out and he fell. He got right back up though. I sure hope that arthritus in his back isn't acting up again.

Hope all of your crew are doing good. Talk to ya later
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/27/11 11:57 AM

If PA will have the same weekend weather as downstate NY, I hope Miss Chey finds a cool spot to enjoy the holiday.

Breathe easy sweet girl,
MJ
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 05/28/11 01:19 PM

awww...Cain...I know how you feel...I stumble or lose my balance when I'm bumped or if that crazy Ava runs into me. No biggie...we're in the prime of our life smile Love ya! Cheyenne


So...we just got through the wettest spring in our history...lots of thunderstorms and found out that Cheyenne is THE biggest baby...worse than Ava! She literally has to sit in my lap or...yikes...jump on top of me in the middle of the night and scare me to death! Now..we've been hit (with a jolt..no time to acclimate) with really hot weather. She doesn't do too well..so we've set up fans for her...which have really helped. I also have meds as last resort...just holding out for now and taking it day by day. Off to the lake tomorrow...CAN YOU BELIEVE? 2ND SUMMER AT THE LAKE!!

HAVE A WONDERFUL WEEKEND EVERYONE smile
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/04/11 11:47 PM

second summer at the LAKE!!! yay cheyenne!!!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/24/11 12:13 PM

Hi everyone...Cheyenne is still doing fabulous! Two very cute stories about this sweet girl!!

My daughter had one of her friends over the other day. She pulled a stuffed GSD puppy out of her backpack and Cheyenne went crazy! I had the stuffed animal on my lap...and Cheyenne kept jumping up on me (not her style at all)...wimpering...kissing the puppy. It was sooo adorable!

My husband had the kids swimming off the boat. Cheyenne kept crying running from one side of the boat to the other looking for her kids. When it came time to pull the kids back into the boat..as my husband was lifting them in...Cheyenne was grabbing onto their clothes as well and helping to pull them onto the boat.

Such a momma!
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/24/11 12:50 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom
Cheyenne kept crying running from one side of the boat to the other looking for her kids. ....

Such a momma!


I think that's because her kids have loved her and cared for her from the day you brought her home.

Thanks so much for the update,
I missed Miss Cheyenne,

Mary Jane
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/24/11 01:28 PM

Mary Ann, thank you so much for the touching up date.

Thank you for opening up your home and heart to Cheyenne.
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/24/11 01:37 PM

Awww, how sweet is that... wub How wonderful that she's doing so well - an amazing and very special girl who has the best family ever!!
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/26/11 01:59 AM

i've been watching for a cheyenne update, thanks! glad to know that sweet girl is still doin' good!!!
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/26/11 12:59 PM

Cheyenne's devoted fanclub is cheering her on! party Thank you so much for the update on your beautiful, special girl! We LOVE her so! wub
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/26/11 01:04 PM

It always amazes me these dogs that like kids. It's so great that the dog you get to foster is one who doesn't just like them, she loves them. Truly loves them!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/28/11 03:09 PM

Annual boat regatta is coming up this weekend...we are thinking of Mardi gras for our boat theme! Any homemade suggestions for Cheyenne's costume are welcome and we will take lots of pics smile
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/28/11 04:36 PM

Not a bit creative here, but I do know that purple is definitely her color. That fits into Mardi Gras, doesn't it??? No matter what she wears she'll be beautiful!! wub Have fun - that sounds like a great time!
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/28/11 06:56 PM

Awhole bunch of the Mardi Gras beads and she needs a Mask. Lots of bright color, yes Kris purple is a common Mardi Gras color, most common Emerald Green, Majestic Purple and Gold..



Here is some info on Mardi Gras
http://www.mardigrasday.com/mardigrasinfo.php?article_id=4
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/28/11 07:03 PM

I LOVE that site!!!

so...basically this is the concept we are going for...LOL !!!

http://www.mardigrasday.com/mardigras/gallery.php?image=1
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 06/30/11 11:28 PM

When did they take that picture of you myamom?
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/01/11 12:43 AM

!!!!!!!!!!!!

(I'll remember that....when you least suspect it...)



so...trying to put together costumes for this weekend....possibility?

Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/01/11 03:45 AM

Love them both! Miss Chey looks beautiful in the lilac wub
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/01/11 05:05 AM

omygosh, they are so patient...look at the looks on their faces tho, lolol...and where are their BEADS???
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/01/11 10:08 AM

Thank you Mary Ann,

Look at Ave in the sequins!

I agree-if you can find them-beads.

MJ
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/01/11 12:23 PM

BEADS!! Yes guys...THANK YOU! Lots of beads!! Ok...still more tweaking on the costumes!

LOL...YES...THEIR FACES ARE PRICELESS!!!!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/01/11 01:12 PM

Ok..what do you guys think about this?

Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/01/11 01:13 PM

I know purple is Chey's color..but my kids think that the ruffles are goofier looking and fit Ava's personality better..while the other is more sophisticated for an older gal...LOL
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/01/11 01:14 PM

Is Cheyenne giving me the evil eye?!?!


Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/01/11 01:27 PM

I think she wanted to wear the purple and is pouting. Ava sure looks happy though!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/01/11 01:39 PM

oh no...what do I do now?
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/01/11 01:58 PM

Get her a purple neck tutu!!! rofl
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/01/11 02:26 PM

I found her a hot pink boa..maybe that will make her happy?
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/01/11 02:31 PM

hmmmm...you can always ask. I would have the munchkins ask her. She'll do anything for them. smile
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/01/11 02:54 PM

These girls can be such Divas! My son...jester..done. Mary, Ava and Cheyenne...it's hours of going through costumes...sheesh.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/01/11 02:58 PM

btw-anyone notice Cheyenne's tail when she sits? LOL
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/01/11 03:06 PM

This is too funny! That dog is amazing. And you and your children are wonderful care-givers. hugging
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/01/11 09:43 PM

"Grimm bargin' in here!! Yoo be GORJUSSS, Miss Shayen, truly GORJUSS!! Loves yur outfits an' beedz!! But da most GORJUSS iz YOO!!" vaseroses
---- Grimm

(Now, back to your regularly scheduled Cheyenne-admiring fanclub!)
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/01/11 09:50 PM

Oh my - she does look a tad put out. She looks divine - even in pink - and the purple does look very beautiful on Ava. The beads added just the right touch!

I'm not sure how they can get their tails like that! She really does look terrific, Mary Ann. Hard to believe that's the same dog...wow... wub
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/02/11 04:58 AM

Oh my goodness her tail rofl She is such a lady tucking it under all neat and proper!

The beads do make the outfits complete, next cover of Vogue perhaps! wub
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/05/11 10:17 AM

First place winners! smile



(oh...where is Cheyenne?)



There she is smile
Posted by: Woodreb

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/05/11 10:25 AM

congrats
And I love the little grin she has on her face - and Ava's big grin, too.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/05/11 12:21 PM

Did anyone say Party Animals!!! rofl

Congratulations to Crewe Mary Ann! congrats

Mary Jane
Posted by: LJsMom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/05/11 01:01 PM

Awesome!
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/07/11 12:48 AM

WOW you guys really go all out on the decorations. Looks like Cheyenne had a good time and I see Ava got to wear the purple. Tell Cheyenne that I thing she looks stunning with her white coat and the dark pink.
Posted by: katieliz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/07/11 03:14 AM

oh you guys are hysterical!!! chey looks so po'd that you'd take the purple tutu away and give it to ava. ava looks quite pleased tho. chey's smilin' again on the float boat so all's well that ends well!
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/07/11 07:14 AM

congrats on your first place! The girls look so happy with their win!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/15/11 01:08 PM

Summer #2 at the Lake videos smile














Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/15/11 04:21 PM

Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/15/11 04:22 PM

Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/15/11 05:54 PM

Mary Ann, thank you! This picture made my day!! happyboogie Wonderful girl, so happy and enjoying herself with family, water, and sunshine... toys, too! groovy You are doing a phenomenal job caring for Cheyenne!
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/15/11 06:00 PM

Oh my gosh - what a goof she is! LOVED the videos because it shows her happiness and energy. And Ava - what a great sister she is. I laughed many times throughout the videos watching her run around and snatching toys out from under Ava and playing in the water. I can't imagine how happy it must make you feel to see her like this. She's a kid again - there's no old dog left in Cheyenne. What a wonderful life and family!!
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/15/11 08:31 PM

Can you believe the total turnaround in this dog's life? Once again thanks to your family and Southern Cross for giving her this opportunity.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/16/11 02:07 PM

Oh thank you for sharing. I like to see how Cheyenne is doing.

Like Jean said thanks to you and Southern Cross.
Posted by: elisabeth

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/17/11 06:46 PM

I actually teared up when I watched those videos.

Thank you for posting those!
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/18/11 02:34 PM

Oh my Mary Ann, she is doing so good!! I am so excited for her and you and your wonderful family. She looks like she is doing much better than Cain. He can't run like that anymore. Does she not have hip or back trouble? Does she take any kind of supplement? I have to take Cain to vet tomorrow for his thyroid and CBC blood work. I guess I'll ask if anything else can be done for his arthritis in his back. Give Chey and Ava a big hug from me and Cain. smile
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/18/11 04:56 PM

Chey is so pretty and she's so smart and she moves like a healthy dog. When you think of the medical crises she overcame with the right family. Amazing!

thanks for the update,
MJ
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/18/11 05:38 PM

I am so happy to see how well she is doing, it's just wonderful wub
Posted by: Kuklamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/18/11 07:16 PM

Thank you, Mary Ann, for the pictures and updates on Cheyenne.

Kudos to you, Southern Cross, and your terrific family for giving Cheyenne so much love.
Posted by: PositiveDog

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 07/20/11 06:40 PM

Look at Chey all wet and happy! What a great saga this has been! wub
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/01/11 02:44 PM

Just checking in to let everyone know that Cheyenne continues to do AWESOME! I have to check with Southern Cross for the exact date...but we are near her 2 YEAR mark since being pulled from the shelter...2 YEARS! Who would have ever imagined...I have all of her wonderful friends to thank for that! So...THANK YOU smile


We are so very blessed to have Cheyenne in our lives. She has given us so much...unconditional love and friendship....and an unexpected bonus....harmoney in our home...lol. This picture would have never happened before we got Cheyenne. But grandma has worked very hard to make sure that there is peace...lol.

Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/01/11 03:00 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom
Just checking in to let everyone know that Cheyenne continues to do AWESOME! I have to check with Southern Cross for the exact date...but we are near her 2 YEAR mark since being pulled from the shelter...2 YEARS! Who would have ever imagined...


You have done such a wonderful job with her - what a great picture of the happy furry family smile
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/01/11 04:06 PM

Mary Ann,

I'm so glad to see everybody (OK, the ones with four legs). Your family truly gave Cheyenne new life, updates are so very welcome. She really looks amazingly well.

thanks,
Mary Jane
Posted by: PositiveDog

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/02/11 09:40 AM

Two years of Chey in your home - learning to trust, playing with your kids and now creating harmony among the critters.

Good job, Cheyenne. You and your family are a perfect combination.
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/02/11 09:51 AM

Look at her peeking out from behind the couch - is everyone behaving? Yes, I thought so!

wub
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/03/11 08:15 PM

Thank you for the update on Cheyenne. One of my Cheyenne's nicknames is "large and in charge". So maybe it is something with the name, behave or.......
Posted by: Kuklamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 10/26/11 01:54 AM

Mary Ann--

Thank you so much to you and your wonderful family for all you have done for Cheyenne.

Thank you also for including everyone on Cheyenne's journey with beautiful pictures and updates.

I'm sending you many "cyberhugs" and my dog Kukla sends many enthusiastic tail wags and kisses!

Lots of love from your friends in Chicago!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/16/11 12:55 AM

I found a lump on cheyenne...right next to her nipple....maybe the size of a small grape. I can pull her skin away and actually feel that it is not attached to anything...
Please don't let it be cancer! Would cancerous tumor be attached? The area is scarey to me though.
calling vet for appt. tomorrow.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/16/11 01:03 AM

Mammary gland tumors are diagnosed in dogs upon physical examination. Benign tumors usually are unattached to the surrounding structures and freely movable. Tumors that are attached or "fixed" to the body wall or adherent to the skin are more likely to be cancerous. Chest radiographs (X-rays) may be performed to determine if the tumors have spread to the lungs (lung metastasis).



http://www.fetchdog.com/learn-connect/dog-resource-library/health/oncology/Benign-Mammary-Tumors/D/300600/P/1:5:55:601:6106/I/AR000010532


What is a benign mammary tumor?
This is any tumor originating from the mammary gland tissues. Most tumors of this type are cured by total surgical removal but a few progress to malignancy in time and start to spread to other parts of the body (metastasis). A dog may have multiple tumors in different mammary glands.

OH NO...not again
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/16/11 01:16 AM

hugging

I am hoping that this is some weird benign lipoma....that's my hope, and I'm sticking to it, until told otherwise....

crossedfingers crossedfingers crossedfingers
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/16/11 01:25 AM

Chama had several of those, right in that area. One was removed and biopsied and was benign. The others weren't removed and grew but never got very big. My vet didn't recommend removing them in older dogs. Hope this is what's going on with Cheyenne! hugging
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/16/11 03:35 AM

Keeping Cheyenne in my thoughts and praying it is nothing to worry about hugging
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/16/11 08:52 AM

I have an appt.at 4. It just pulled the rug out from under me...the long road to get where she is today...my heart just broke.

Thank you for the prayers!!!
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/16/11 09:53 AM

I like what you found googling - it certainly is not like..what she had before that was so big. Let's hope. Because they removed the estrogen production source...knock wood.

Been a loooong time without pictures! Good chilly day for a snuggie!
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/16/11 10:30 AM

Beaming positive thoughts for just a benign something-or-other that can be left alone and not worried about! hugging
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/16/11 10:45 AM

Oh no....not again. My thoughts and prayers are with you. Cain sends hugs and kisses to you and Chey.
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/16/11 11:52 AM

I'm hoping too it's just a lipoma. Murphy had one for years and years. It was no big deal and we just left it alone. It was detached just like Chey's.
Posted by: LJsMom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/16/11 05:37 PM

Fingers crossed for good news!
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/16/11 06:17 PM

paranoid2 pacing
Posted by: Barb E

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/16/11 06:50 PM

Really hoping the news was good!!

crossedfingers
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/16/11 08:05 PM

Lots more well-wishes that all came out well at the vet visit. crossedfingers crossedfingers crossedfingers
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/16/11 09:45 PM

you guys are just so wonderful...truly!

The news wasn't what I was hoping to hear. It's definitely a mammary tumor. Not a recurrence of the old one...it's a new one in a new location. He said each tumor is it's own entity...so basically it could be benign, malignant...even a different type of malignancy from the other one. It's about the size of a marble. He did say that is a good time to find a tumor...as if it's a malignant spready type...any larger than that...even the size of a grape...it's spread already.
Lots to discuss, figure out and hash out and pray over. Any questions..please ask as I hope her story helps others.
and yes...I am just devastated frown
Please keep her in your prayers
Posted by: LifeAsMe

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/16/11 10:02 PM

hugging
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/16/11 10:17 PM

I am so sorry. hugging Not the news we wanted for Cheyenne! I want to think that this is benign, or a slower, less pushy form altogether. I am sending my best vibes for strength to you,as we already know Cheyenne herself is probably not too worried about this. She is one amazing dog. SZending positive vibes to both her and you, as you consider and think things through. You are not alone. grouphug
Posted by: PositiveDog

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/16/11 10:29 PM

Oh, I just found this. frown I so hope this turns out to be benign. How sad for Miss Chey to have face this again.

hugging
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/16/11 10:36 PM

Ssshhhoot Not want we wanted to hear.

MaryAnn I have some questions?

I know that she has had some breathing problems in the past, how has she been lately?

How has her health - stamina overall been recently?

Did the Vet say how extensive he felt the surgery would be?

We know she is a fighter, do you think she has enough fight in her for another round of surgery?

I know I am asking all these questions, if you don't want to answer in public you can PM me.

With Lakota I knew he wasn't up to the fight and it was probable that he only had a very short time even with treatment. So I felt is was better for him to go be with DeeDee. Sorry I am being depressing. Slap me for that. I think at times dogs only have so much gas in the tank to fight things and we as humans want them to have more.

I am going to send some really good vibes to both you and Cheyenne. You know I am hoping for the best with Cheyenne. My tough girl Cheyenne says she is sending some good vibes to your Cheyenne. The Chey Chey girls have to stick together.
Posted by: Qyn

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/17/11 03:15 AM

My old girl at around 14yo had one slightly smaller that what you have described and it was removed along with the teat with no recurrence - from memory, because it was caught early it was easily removed (ie not such a major surgery). Best wishes.
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/17/11 03:59 AM

hugging Praying this is benign.
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/17/11 11:22 AM

Prayers for Cheyenne and calming thoughts for you Mary Ann. We all know she is in the best hands and no one could love her or give her any better care than you.
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/17/11 02:27 PM

I am very sorry to hear this frown

:hugging
Posted by: SeanRescueMom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/17/11 08:43 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom
I am just devastated frown
Please keep her in your prayers


Special thoughts go out to Cheyenne and you. hugging
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/19/11 08:57 PM

Any news or updates?
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/20/11 09:30 AM

Mary Ann,

I was just thinking about the wine from Southern Cross with Cheyenne on the label. She's so much a part of the courageous rescue dog/foster family mythology.

I hope with all my heart that this is one more thing that you will resolve together.

Mary Jane
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/20/11 10:58 AM

Surrounding you with support from here, Mary Ann. grouphug We all love Cheyenne so very much! Beaming positive vibes your way, and Cheyenne's too.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/20/11 01:29 PM

Thank you! I apologize...I'm just trying to figure some things out...very quickly.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/20/11 09:48 PM

Ok..here's the update. Please forgive me for not posting sooner..I had to discuss more with vets and rescue. Discussed in detail again with the vet. He said my window of opportunity is very small if this is an aggressive cancer. He wants us to have surgery asap. I have to find a way to make this happen again. I feel healthwise, as far as surviving a surgery, she is in a much better place than she was last year.
first step - chest x-ray asap - will call tomorrow to get that done.

Please say a prayer that her chest x-ray is good!
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/20/11 09:53 PM

Sending Cheyenne, you and your family much strength and positive energy and thoughts. hugging x 1million
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/20/11 10:15 PM

Thank you Ruth...I know you understand. It's not time to stop the fight.
To answer Val's questions..she's doing great...breathing is good..stamina normal for an older gal. Vet said of course there is a chance she could die during surgery..but I think she is in a much better place than she was last year. Last year...she was very ill. If I don't do the surgery..and this is an aggressive cancer...he gives her 2 months. Of course...there's a chance it's not...but can I take that chance? He said that I have about a week to get this all going...or I could be too late if it's aggressive.
I'm getting the ball rolling and just praying everything works. Praying for a Christmas miracle here!
Wait..was I doing this last Christmas???
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/20/11 10:28 PM

Mary Ann, can you feel this? grouphug We are all here sending positive well-wishes for Cheyenne. If surgery is to happen, may the beloved, gorgeous hat-wearing Cheyenne grace us by pulling a Christmas miracle out of her hat. present christmastree I am wishing the very best for Cheyenne and for you, too. hugging
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/20/11 10:48 PM

Cheyenne needs our help. Check the eCardsForYou link in my Sigy or check out the Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/eCardsForYou

There will be a special announcement tomorrow on the Facebook Page.
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/21/11 04:16 AM

Val I just registered to send a card to help Cheyenne and I wanted to send it to myamom but I don't know how? ( no email addy).

Can I just donate somehow?

I am keeping sweet Cheyenne in my thoughts and prayers hugging
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/21/11 09:03 AM

That was so sweet of you bianca!! Send it to someone else special in your life that loves dogs smile
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/21/11 12:43 PM

Mary Ann,

I know you have much more important things on your mind than posting-but do you know if Southern Cross will establish another chip-in account for Miss Cheyenne's surgery? I checked at their website/blog and it's not up yet.

I think that people in addition to Bianca would like to help.

many best wishes to you all,
Mary Jane
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/21/11 12:47 PM

eCardsForYou along with the Help Cheyenne Cards will be donating all card sales on Dec 22.

This is my eCard site. http://ecardsforyou.com
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/21/11 01:38 PM

MJ..that is beyond kind. I will express right now how horrible I feel about asking for help. truly.
Jean is helping me tonight figure something out.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/21/11 01:43 PM

Dealing with horrible diarrhea for two days now. Both days woken up to my whole house...ugh.
today...just constant.
praying it's just because I gave her a little progresso soup mixed in her food the other day. My mistake..I was feeling sorry for her.
All I need...is for her to get in a weakened state now frown
Stress..beyond words.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/21/11 01:52 PM

I tried some pumpkin in her food yesterday..but that didn't work. Today just gave chicken and rice...but still no relief. i should fast her maybe? trying to balance that with her not getting too weak....
i just hope it's nothing more serious...
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/21/11 02:48 PM

Mary Ann, I would fast for 12 hours. I am not a big believer in 24 hour fast most of the time.

Then chicken and rice, heavy on the rice.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/21/11 03:01 PM

Thank you Val!
Posted by: PositiveDog

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/21/11 08:30 PM

grouphug Sending more good thoughts. I am so sorry for all that is going on and hope Cheyenne finds relief soon,
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/21/11 09:40 PM

hugging
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/21/11 10:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Wisc.Tiger_Val
eCardsForYou along with the Help Cheyenne Cards will be donating all card sales on Dec 22.

This is my eCard site. http://ecardsforyou.com


I already got one! laugh Such a great idea. So generous Val.
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/11 07:02 AM

hugging
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/11 09:37 AM

No mess this morning!! hurray!!

Thank you for all the hugs...I needed them!! smile
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/11 09:50 AM

Originally Posted By: myamom
No mess this morning!! hurray!!



What a wonderful thing to read in the morning.

I can keep my fingers crossed a veeeeeeeeery long time.

all the best,
Mary Jane
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/11 10:10 AM

The moral of this story...Progresso soup is a big no no

Thank you MJ!
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/11 10:21 AM

YAY!!!!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/11 10:41 AM

YAY no accident.
but...oh no..she still has watery stool! Should it be lasting this long if just upset from a food change? This is day 3.
She only got chicken and lots of rice yesterday.
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/11 10:47 AM

I know a lot of people on here are not crazy about using metronidizole, but I keep it on hand for situations like this. It clears up the problem so quickly and I've never had a dog have any reaction to it. I usually only give it for about 3 days, but it's enough to get them back on track. Sometimes it takes Metro to kick that diarrhea in the butt (no pun intended... crazy).
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/11 10:56 AM

OK...WAAAIIIIT A MINUTE!!! I'm blaming a small mix in to her food...BUT...

It just hit me...she's on an antibiotic for her ears!!! Mometamax. Now granted...I didn't think there could be any correlation because it's put INTO her ear...BUT....You think???
calling the vet now...
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/11 11:08 AM

MA - check out this link:

http://www.livestrong.com/article/249508-side-effects-of-mometamax/

Lots of side effects possible, including diarrhea.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/11 11:14 AM

Thanks Kris!! got a call back..that dr. wants to give her a med for the diarrhea..but never got a direct answer on this antibiotic! I again said...I need to know if this is it...and should I STOP it. I need to figure out the root cause. Told her to please ask this specifically. He does want to give her a med...afraid of her getting dehydrated and depleted...at this point I agree because nothing I'm doing is helping. thoughts?
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/11 11:17 AM

Well, I think you definitely need to get the diarrhea stopped. Did he say which med? Hopefully, you'll get an answer back quickly on the antibiotic for her ears. It seems that she can be super sensitive to some things. That link says that diarrhea is an infrequent side effect, but that doesn't mean it isn't causing a reaction with her.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/11 11:20 AM

no..didn't say which one. I have to run down. will update.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/11 11:35 AM

Can Cheyenne have any other protein besides Chicken? Maybe she just needs a bit of a break from chicken?

I have used Imodium in the past with no problems, but it is a big no no for MDR1 dogs.
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/11 11:39 AM

Val, you know what else I found out about Immodium? You can't give it to a pregnant dog as it can pass through to the pups and cause neurological problems. I've stayed away from Immodium every since my vet told me that - it's a scary medication.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/11 11:52 AM

Kris I honestly haven't used it in a couple years.

Mary Ann, Trust me when I say that I had ear problems with Lakota. The only thing I found that would keep his ears in decent condition, not great but decent was the Zymox Products. http://www.germanshepherdhome.net/shop/zymox-products/

I used the Zymox Otic with (1.0%)Hydrocortisone, when his ears were red and sore. I would use the Zymox Otic Hydrocortisone Free on a daily basis if I needed. If his ears were in the bad mode (allergies) I would also use the Zymox Ear Cleanser to help get the gunk out. With the cleaner I would drench his ears massage and let him shake, best to do outside I have light colored walls and ceilings and he would get gunk on both.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/11 11:57 AM

I have to order that Val!
I think I will have to do a med with her..I'm too scared to let her get depleted/dehydrated at this point. It will probably be that metro...whatever it is...that's what seems to be the med most prescribed in the past.
Posted by: Woodreb

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/11 12:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Wisc.Tiger_Val
Kris I honestly haven't used it in a couple years.

Mary Ann, Trust me when I say that I had ear problems with Lakota. The only thing I found that would keep his ears in decent condition, not great but decent was the Zymox Products. http://www.germanshepherdhome.net/shop/zymox-products/

I used the Zymox Otic with (1.0%)Hydrocortisone, when his ears were red and sore. I would use the Zymox Otic Hydrocortisone Free on a daily basis if I needed. If his ears were in the bad mode (allergies) I would also use the Zymox Ear Cleanser to help get the gunk out. With the cleaner I would drench his ears massage and let him shake, best to do outside I have light colored walls and ceilings and he would get gunk on both.



I've been using these Zymox products for Caleb ever since Val mentioned them elsewhere on the forum. They seem to be doing a good job for him as well. Caleb has problems with his ears off and on as well.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/11 12:36 PM

Metronidazole is also known as flagyl. We used it a lot with Wolf who had stress colitis sometimes after boarding. It is an antibiotic so your vet (I hope) is considering how it might affect the treatment of Cheyenne's ear.

all the best,
Mary Jane
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/11 02:28 PM

If the loose stools are caused by an antibiotic, I would wonder about giving another abx to prevent it. Flagyl does have anti-inflammatory properties.

Have you been giving probiotics?

eta: Pepto can also be used, it's a mild anti-inflammatory as well.
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/11 07:43 PM

I like to space the probiotics several hours between antibiotics doses. Say, if breakfast & antibiotics is at 9am, give the probiotics at 2pm, if dinner and antibiotics is a 6pm. Then, a lil more probiotics right before bedtime-- or a heaping tablespoon of plain yogurt as bedtime snack.

Tons and tons of very positive energy flowing out to Cheyenne!
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/22/11 08:59 PM

No...haven't given probiotics....we just started those ear drops the day I took her to the vet for the lump (she also had had an ear infection)...and to be honest I never really associated ear drops as being an antibiotic I would need to do that for. The vet did put her on the Metro. They claim none of this is due to the ear meds..and also that this can be given in conjunction. So...I'm really not sure what the root of this is.
Anyway...back tomorrow morning for x-rays...prayering for good results! Thank yo for all the prayers and well wishes!!
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/23/11 11:56 AM

crossedfingers for Xrays showing no spread of unwanted cells.

crossedfingers for normal digestion for Miss Cheyenne

crossedfingers for some relief for Mary Ann and family
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/23/11 12:19 PM

Well...I walked in....legs like mush...and said...It's my birthday...you are NOT allowed to give me any bad news!!!

soooo...they didn't smile
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/23/11 12:25 PM

Here are the results:
we have a collapse of a lung lobe. He said it's a small lobe...and that the good news is that the other lobe grew considerably to adequately compensate. He said...very common due to the high hw she suffered from. Only one tiny area that caught his eye...could be something...could be artifact. He said he typically sees a smattering of spots when it's spread from mammary cancer and he was optimistic regarding this spot...but duly noted it and wants the specialist to eyeball it. Comparing the x-rays from last year there was a huge difference. She was full of the affects of pneumonia last year...pretty compromised going into surgery...and we were clear this year...and showing good air flow. She tolerated chest x-rays very well...even a view on her back...compared to last year when she turned blue during the procedure.

I have disc in hand...and next step is to see specialist. As I was walking out the Dr. said he feels like she has a few lives left smile
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/23/11 12:26 PM

happyboogie Hooray for Miss Cheyenne! That is a relief. Paws are crossed for her to feel well, do well, and for you to feel good about this news too! groovy
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/23/11 12:40 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom
.It's my birthday...you are NOT allowed to give me any bad news!!!

soooo...they didn't smile


Pretty good birthday present and WONDERFUL of you to share it.

Fingers remain crossed,

Very Happy Birthday!

MJ

PS
Miss Cheyenne was blue after Xrays last year-that sounds horrible.
Posted by: Kris

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/23/11 01:06 PM

Oh Mary Ann - how relieved you must feel!! What wonderful news!! Way to go Chey - you are one tough girl!! wub
Posted by: LJsMom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/23/11 02:01 PM

Great news!
Posted by: Qyn

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/23/11 07:06 PM

Happy Birthday Myamom and good news for Cheyenne.
Posted by: Barb E

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/23/11 10:09 PM

groovy
I love good news!!!
Posted by: PositiveDog

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/23/11 10:37 PM

Happy Birthday - great present! present Hope things continue to look up for Miss Chey.
Posted by: cainsmomma

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/23/11 11:32 PM

Yippeeeeee for Chey and a very Happy Birthday to a wonderful friend!!!!!
Cain said "HI" to all.
Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/24/11 02:43 AM

What a wonderful birthday present. I'm sure nothing could have made it happier! party

Thanks for taking such good care of our special senior, Cheyenne. And thank your kids too. wub
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/24/11 04:08 AM

party That is such great news!!!! Happy Birthday to you too! Please give Miss Chey a gentle kiss from me smile
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/27/11 07:26 PM

Pre-op bloodwork...perfect.
Specialist appt. tomorrow morning at 9:00

inhale...exhale

one step at a time
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/27/11 08:31 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom
Pre-op bloodwork...perfect.
Specialist appt. tomorrow morning at 9:00

inhale...exhale

one step at a time



Hope that tomorrow goes well!
Posted by: Barb E

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/27/11 09:00 PM

crossedfingers for tomorrow
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/27/11 09:44 PM

many good wishes for Miss Chey and family,
step by step,
MJ
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/28/11 02:39 AM

All paws and fingers crossed here too hugging
Posted by: MaxaLisa

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/29/11 09:34 PM

How did things go with the specialist?
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/29/11 10:33 PM

HELLO!! Sorry for the delay...been working with Jean on a flyer...can I just say...she is a GODSEND!!

The appointment went very well!! He was thrilled with her physical presentation and the fact that she is on no meds at all for her breathing (she was taken off all meds last year at his recommendation) He said...I am so happy...I just hate when dogs are on meds that they don't need...it just makes them sicker. I did ask why he thinks that her breathing has been so good and she has not crashed on me or been sick ever since surgery (she was put on all those meds before surgery due to her labored breathing, crashing on me, etc) I asked what could the correlation have possibly been since the tumor had not spread. He said just because cancer had not spread...did not mean that infection was not spreading through her body from that tumor. MAKES SENSE!! I think we finally have an answer here on why she was so sick prior and never again after!!

He feels the surgery will be fairly quick (1/2 hour under anesthesia vs. 1 1/2 hrs. the last tme). He also thinks she should be able to come home the same day. She will only have a 2 inch incision. He will take wide margins. I did ask about not doing a biopsy...as I am trying to save as much money as I can. He said really...biopsy gives peace of mind...or gives bad news...and at that point you do chemo (which is not advised for her and we wouldn't do) or prepares you. I'm fine not knowing any bad news for sure! I'm the kind of person that wouldn't want to know something like that anyway. So...we won't be doing a biopsy. Given the size of this and that we caught this pretty early...I'm feeling pretty optimistic anyway...and I'll keep those thoughts smile

for educational purposes:
I did ask about taking whole chains out...he said it is not recommended in dogs...only cats. He said studies show that it has absolutely no bearing on prognosis in dogs...but makes a huge impact on prognosis in cats...and is totally recommended for them. He told me that a second new tumor is pretty rare (yeh..figures) and that putting a dog through radical mastectomy on the off chance they would get a second tumor is not worth it. He described how the incision would be the entire length of her body (vs. this 2 inch incision) He said it's very radical and very hard on dogs. Still a little confusing to me...but I understand Radical at least. If anyone has any questions on mammary cancer...I would be happy to ask him. I always hope these posts help others.

I have to add...Cheyenne was treated like a rock star when she walked in...everyone remembered her and just loves her (of note...she didn't look like one...cowering by the door trembling like I have never seen before...she must TOTALLY remember this place...dogs are soooo smart!!)

So anyway..everything is a go. I have not scheduled the appt. yet as I still have to work on the resources to make it happen. I was told that when I call...it's only a week or two wait time...so I know I can work on this a bit...then call...and it won't have us waiting too long.
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/29/11 10:50 PM

Awesome news Mary Ann. I love the flyer! Good work MA and Jean! I just feel so good about this surgery in comparison to last year. I have to agree at this point about the biopsy...don't even bother. Hugs to you both!!!
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/30/11 03:13 AM

This all sounds so great Mary Ann! Is there anyway we can donate?
Posted by: bianca

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/30/11 04:53 AM

Originally Posted By: bianca
This all sounds so great Mary Ann! Is there anyway we can donate?


Just saw Jean's link on FB, so done smile
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/30/11 08:51 AM

Thank you!!!!

I won't lie...if I even start thinking about this I get upset...so right now I'm just keeping busy and focusing on getting her there.
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/30/11 10:15 AM

Mary Ann, this is just a little bump in the road with Cheyenne. She has come so far under your care that this will be a breeze for her to recover from.
Posted by: Mary Jane

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/30/11 11:20 AM

Originally Posted By: myamom
..I'm feeling pretty optimistic anyway..



If you are feeling optimistic for your senior miracle dog-then all we can do is second your optimism.

I truly hope that 2012 is a good year for you all.

Mary Jane
Posted by: LJsMom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/30/11 05:11 PM

Originally Posted By: bianca
Originally Posted By: bianca
This all sounds so great Mary Ann! Is there anyway we can donate?


Just saw Jean's link on FB, so done smile


Ditto.
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/30/11 06:43 PM

Thank you Joanne!
Posted by: JeanKBBMMMAAN

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/31/11 12:27 PM

What are you guys doing for New Year? More importantly, is Cheyenne going to be wearing a hat?
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/31/11 01:39 PM

Wishing you all a very Happy New Year filled with many blessings and much happiness! I think we're going with a Tiara this year Jean wink
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/31/11 01:41 PM

of course...pics tomorrow smile
Posted by: Braverhund

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/31/11 01:48 PM

The truly stunning, gorgeous sparkling Miss Cheyenne in a tiara? Oh, what a way to ring in the New year! party
I'm patient for it. Really! impatient pacing whistling rofl

Sending you Mary Ann, Cheyenne, and your family and friends only positive thoughts for wellness and success in the coming year! bloomrose
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/31/11 02:15 PM

Thank you!!!!!
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 12/31/11 08:09 PM

A tiera is very fitting for our girl! Happy New Year wishes for you Mary Ann and your family and the furkids and looking forward to hearing more good stories in 2012 from our favorite girl!!!

party
Posted by: myamom

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/01/12 02:38 PM

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by: BowWowMeow

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/01/12 03:05 PM

wub
Posted by: PositiveDog

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/01/12 03:19 PM

Yes - wub X2!

She looks like a grand, ole' dame.

Sweet Chey.
Posted by: lorio

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/01/12 05:07 PM

That is one HOT angel! wub
Posted by: Wisc.Tiger_Val

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/01/12 05:20 PM

Cheyenne you look stunning in red with your tiara. wow
Posted by: Woodreb

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/01/12 05:28 PM

Originally Posted By: myamom
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!




wub
Posted by: Schnickle Fritz

Re: My new foster - Cheyenne - 01/01/12 05:33 PM

love it
Posted by: Braverhund